Talk:2025 Tour Championship
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GAN
Hi AlH42 - would you have any issues if we took this article through the GAN process? We need it to be promoted for the Tour Championship good topic to remain. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:54, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:2025 Tour Championship/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 08:32, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 01:58, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi Vilenski, I'll review this soon. Epicgenius (talk) 01:58, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
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Prose, POV, and coverage
- Lead:
- Para 1:
It was the last of three events in the Players Series, following both the 2025 World Grand Prix and the Players Championship.
- "Both" is probably not needed here The other two events are mentioned immediately after this.
- Para 3:
The final of the event produced eight century breaks, four by each player, equalling the record for the most centuries in a best-of-19-frame match, which had been set by Neil Robertson and Judd Trump in the final of the 2019 Champion of Champions.
- This sentence is a bit long. I suggest splitting it up (I would split it after "four by each player", personally).
- Para 1:
- Format:
The event took place from 31 March to 6 April 2025 at the Manchester Central
- The caption says "Manchester Central" (without "the"), but the prose says "the Manchester Central". Which is correct?
The World Snooker Tour (WST) announced that there was a free fan zone at the venue before the event
- The phrasing is a bit confusing. If the free fan zone was before the event itself, I would say "The World Snooker Tour (WST) announced a free fan zone at the venue before the event". If only the announcement took place before the event, I would say "The World Snooker Tour (WST) announced before the event that there would be a free fan zone".
Scheduling for the season resulted in the three events of the Players Series being back-to-back in the calendar
- Instead of "back-to-back in the calendar", I suggest something like "consecutive".
- Broadcasters:
- No issues.
- Prize fund:
- I would consider getting rid of "shown below". You could just say
The breakdown of prize money for the event is:
and it would still make sense. (Also, technically blind readers wouldn't be able to "see below", so I guess this would improve accessibility as well.)
- I think your option is fine, of course, but this phrasing is used throughout a vast number of similar articles. If there is nothing blatantly wrong with it, I would rather leave it as-is. Let me know what you think, please. Alavense (talk) 13:54, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- I see, in that case I would leave it alone, as the wording's not a big deal. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think your option is fine, of course, but this phrasing is used throughout a vast number of similar articles. If there is nothing blatantly wrong with it, I would rather leave it as-is. Let me know what you think, please. Alavense (talk) 13:54, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- I would consider getting rid of "shown below". You could just say
- Seeding list:
- Same thing as above regarding "shown below".
- More in a bit. – Epicgenius (talk) 02:04, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I actually forgot about this. More to come soon. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:02, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, Epicgenius. I see Lee Vilenski has been inactive for a while now. Would there be any problem if I took care of your comments? I don't know if it is in the spirit of the GAN process, but if there is no problem, I would be willing to reply to your comments. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 07:19, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Alavense, absolutely. If you are able to address the comments, then there is no problem with you doing so, and it would be very much appreciated actually. (I also just remembered that I forgot about this for 4 weeks, which is totally my fault, and I will have some additional comments soon.) – Epicgenius (talk) 13:00, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Epicgenius: I have replied to all your comments. Thank you very much for taking the time to review the article. I'll be ready to address any more you may have. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Alavense, absolutely. If you are able to address the comments, then there is no problem with you doing so, and it would be very much appreciated actually. (I also just remembered that I forgot about this for 4 weeks, which is totally my fault, and I will have some additional comments soon.) – Epicgenius (talk) 13:00, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, Epicgenius. I see Lee Vilenski has been inactive for a while now. Would there be any problem if I took care of your comments? I don't know if it is in the spirit of the GAN process, but if there is no problem, I would be willing to reply to your comments. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 07:19, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- First round:
- Para 1:
All four first round matches
- "First-round" should have a hyphen as it is being used as an adjectival phrase here (the words "first-round" are treated as an adjective modifying "matches").
- Para 3:
Williams was using contact lenses for the first time in this match, due to his deteriorating eyesight
- I would specify that this is the first time he's using contact lenses while playing, not the first time ever (which would be rather strange). For example, "During this match, Williams used contact lenses for the first time while playing, due to his deteriorating eyesight
- Para 3:
Williams confirmed that he would play the next event, the World Championship with the lenses as well,
- There should be a comma after "the World Championship" because this is being treated as a parenthetical phrase.
- Para 1:
- Quarter-finals:
- Para 2:
Higgins went took all five frames
- "Went took" is two verbs. One of these is almost certainly by mistake, as the sentence makes sense with "took" but not with "went" or both.
- Para 3:
Selby also had praise for Ding Junhui's performance during the season, "what he
- I would either change the comma after "during the season" to a semicolon, or I would add a verb such as "saying" after that phrase. E.g. "Selby also had praise for Ding Junhui's performance during the season, saying: 'what he...'"
- Para 4:
I left myself with too much to do. I changed my tip before the session tonight and I was getting through the ball better. Every credit to Ding [Junhui]
- Do we need Ding's given name (Junhui) in that quote, given that Ding was introduced several times?
- Para 2:
- Semi-finals:
- Para 2:
The "curse" was that in all the matches that Ding had lost this season, the player who beat him had lost in the next round.
- Perhaps there is a better way to rephrase this, e.g. "In all the matches that Ding had lost this season, his opponent had gone on to lose in the next round."
- I rephrased it in a different way. Let me know if you like it. Alavense (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Seems good to me. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:13, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- I rephrased it in a different way. Let me know if you like it. Alavense (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Para 2:
- Final:
- No comments
- Tournament draw:
- No comments
- Century breaks:
- No comments
- In general, this seems well-balanced and doesn't appear to be missing any major details. I'll review the refs later. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:11, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
References
- Formatting is good.
- What makes Metro (British newspaper) a reliable source? Per WP:RSP (WP:METRO), it is listed as generally unreliable.
- Random spot-check of 5 refs to come in a bit. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:15, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Images and copyright
- All images are appropriately licensed. Even the fair-use logo, which I thought was an image at first. Dang, this tournament does not have simple logos.
- All images have alt text.
- I did not detect copyright violations or close paraphrasing. Earwig's tool comes out okay, as the only things it highlights are quotes.
- – Epicgenius (talk) 13:13, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Spot check of this revision:
- 18 ("Williams hopes contact lenses will keep his eyes on the prize in Manchester". World Snooker Tour. 27 March 2025.) - Checks out. I actually looked at this source while reviewing another point above, so it should be fine.
- 21 (Sutcliffe, Steve (2 April 2024). "Tour Championship: Mark Selby considers future after loss, Ali Carter & Mark Williams advance". BBC Sport.) - Checks out
- 39 ("Selby in control of Ding semi-final". World Snooker Tour. 5 April 2025.) - Checks out.
- 47 ("Higgins: My best ever win". World Snooker Tour. 6 April 2025.) - Both uses check out.
- 48 ("Sutcliffe, Steve (6 April 2025). "Vintage Higgins beats Selby in Tour Championship final". BBC Sport.) - Checks out.
- Spot check passed. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:11, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
General comments
Everything looks good, so I will promote this article. Congrats. Epicgenius (talk) 16:11, 4 September 2025 (UTC)