Talk:Amish

The article states: "a population that is rapidly growing, as the Amish generally do not use birth control." This is not the case! Even though limiting the number of children is a topic that normally is not discussed among the Amish, the fact that the number of children systematically increases in correlation with the conservatism of a congregation, is a clear indication that some kind of birth control is used. This is clearly stated in pages 157-158 in Donald B. Kraybill, Karen M. Johnson-Weiner, and Steven M. Nolt, The Amish, Baltimore 2013. Because of this I will change the statement. -Menischt (talk) 11:38, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Conservative congregations have more children. That's a simple fact. You would have to make some jumps of logic to get to your assertion.162.246.139.210 (talk) 18:30, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

That's exactly what Menischt just said. What are you disagreeing with? 57.135.233.22 (talk) 22:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Someone needs to sort this out, because the current birth control section has a claim and then the counterclaim with no mediation between the two.

Conservative Amish have more children because of less birth control - Conservative Amish have less children because of culture Wkjekf (talk) 10:00, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I don't see a contradiction. You will have to be more specific, Wkjekf.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 15:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

"Most Amish clearly seem to use some form of birth control, a fact that generally is not discussed among the Amish, but indicated by the fact that the number of children systematically increases in correlation with the conservatism of a congregation, the more conservative, the more children. The large number of children is due to the fact that many children are appreciated by the community, and not because of any lack of birth control" Wkjekf (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I can read, but I cannot divine what was in your mind when you paraphrased it into Conservative Amish have less children because of culture. However, I have made a change that should make the concepts more clear to the average reader.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 21:26, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Sorry i meant:

Conservative Amish have more children because of restrictions on birth control.

vs.

Conservative Amish have more children because of culture as they're "appreciated by the community, and not because of any lack of birth control".

My bad, conceptual error. Wkjekf (talk) 21:47, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I noticed that rumspringa, in "religious practices," is translated as "around running". While not technically incorrect, I feel as though around running isn't really a "flowing" translation, and I feel as though "running around" fits better. I don't want to just change it without consulting anyone, though, so I've posted this problem in the talk section. Rocktessel (talk) 19:25, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Rocktessel, yes, it should most certainly be translated as 'running around'. In that section, as it is placed in English after the German, please use the {{gloss}} template for it, as I did just now; that will render it in MOS:SINGLE quotes. Pick any of these sources you like, almost all of them say "running around", and that's what the article should say as well. Mathglot (talk) 06:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

I've changed it from 'around running' to 'running around', and added a source. I hope it's all ok, seeing as I'm pretty new to editing wikipedia. If I did do something wrong, please either change it, or give me instructions on how to change it (and what to change). Thank you for the help. Rocktessel (talk) 10:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

It's not even a cornered market or unique what Amish do. It was and is only a sliver of the things they'll get involved with and realistically the portion of Amish who are connected with dog industry can only ever shrink as their numbers swell. Amish being into Dog farms should either to be folded into a larger section on service of animals/doctrines on animal treatment or folded into a section about Amish business practice and work ethics more generally. 2001:569:7103:4000:80F4:9C19:96DE:C8F6 (talk) 01:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

That and the source claiming percentages of puppy mills doesn't show anything about that. Googling the claim is a number of cites citing eachother or a dead link. Sloppy work. 2600:1700:73B0:1970:35CD:BBB0:1F97:A668 (talk) 17:20, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

....Seen a movie called Deadly Blessing. In this, a demon invades what appears to be a Amish community. The demon takes the form of a spider in order to raise hell in this movie. How can this be stated in this article under Amish -- In Fiction? 216.247.72.142 (talk) 04:22, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

Forgot to mention a Futurama episode in which Bender got killed and Philip J Fry ended up on a planet that is totally Amish as well. Can this be used as well, as another show called The Amish Mafia as well, and a episode of The Family Guy as well? In this, Meg falls for a Amish boy. 216.247.72.142 (talk) 09:56, 13 October 2025 (UTC)

The redirect Ommish has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 November 26 § Ommish until a consensus is reached. Rusalkii (talk) 22:12, 26 November 2025 (UTC)