Talk:Assumption of Mary

In the Wikipedia article "Assumption of Mary", there appears to me a undoubtedly involuntary misstatement of Catholic doctrine. It says: "Traditions relating to the Assumption: The Catholic Church has two different traditions concerning the assumption/dormition of Mary: in the first, she rose from the dead after a brief period and then ascended into heaven; in the second, she was 'assumed' bodily into heaven before she died." Now it is certainly not true that any tradition exists that Mary ASCENDED into Heaven. Only Jesus has done that. And the second tradition (of her Assumption) does not exclusively refer to having occurred BEFORE she died, as the same article makes clear later on. Please investigate and correct if appropriate. Considero (talk) 02:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

You're right, she did not ascend but was assumed. Thank you.Rafaelosornio (talk) 01:24, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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The Assumption of the Virgin Mary occurred on the Gregorian astronomic 15 August 44 CE (its Julian 17 AD). Its probable time is 9:00 IST (7:00 GMT). She was 60 years old.

200.155.120.37 (talk) 07:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

How do you know what you pretend to know? WP:CITE your WP:SOURCES. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:09, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

No, the churches do not literally believe that the Assumption of Mary occurred on 15 August. That date was chosen to replace Augustus Octavian's birthday (which remained a important holiday long after his death) with a Christian holiday. Also, the retroactive Gregorian calendar in the 1st century would have the same exact date as the Julian Calander. BTW, the Julian Calendar today is 13 days behind the Gregorian, not 27 years behind. How on earth did you come up with that? Skyduster (talk) 03:14, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

But Augustus Caesar (he cannot be called Augustus and Octavian at the same time) was born on 23 September, not 15 August. Vicedomino (talk) 04:48, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

• The pope did not advance any specific text as proof of the doctrine, but one senior advisor, Father Jugie, expressed the view that Revelation 12:1–2 was the chief scriptural witness to the assumption.

but later in the same section we have:

• Among the many other passages noted by Pope Pius were the following …

I'm assuming the latter mention of Pius XII was meant to refer to Father Jugie? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 06:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

As I read the source, it refers to Pope Pius.--Medusahead (talk) 10:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid to mix something up here, but I saw this phrase in Google search results and it struck me as odd. It should be "body and soul", right? Karikaturkin (talk) 10:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

The news page talks about the resurrection of body and soul, but it's wrong. Maybe was a typo. As far as I know, Catholics do not believe in the resurrection of the soul, only of the body and the flesh. For a soul to be resurrected it has to die, but according to Catholic theology the soul is immortal.--Rafaelosornio (talk) 17:55, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Orthodox Christians fast for fourteen days before the Feast of the Assumption of Mary, including abstinence from sexual relations

Hard LOL on this one. Uh, no. In Greece (Orthodox-majority) no one fasts. And I spit out my coffee in laughter about the refraining from sex part. I have never, ever heard the Orthodox church say this. The source used for this silly claim is a dubious source (Greekreporter, which is a joke of a publication).

I'm revising this part to say that the Orthodox church merely recommends fasting (which is different from "Orthodox Christians fast" because the vast majority don't), and I'm dropping the laughable sex part. And I'm dropping the dubious Greekreporter source, and inserting a link from the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America instead. Skyduster (talk) 16:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)