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Requested move 27 March 2026

BOL4Bol4Bol4 – "BOL" is not an acronym. PepeBonus (talk) 07:37, 24 March 2026 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Bensci54 (talk) 17:45, 27 March 2026 (UTC)  Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 18:49, 3 April 2026 (UTC)  Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 13:23, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

  • Not sure if this counts as a !vote as I am the one starting the RM, but just to be sure all are clear, I support this move and am not just creating this RM as a matter of course. Bensci54 (talk) 17:45, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
    Yes, your input counts as you're absolutely allowed to take part in a discussion you started.
    Mandatory mention of WP:NOTAVOTE, something something.Maltazarian parleyinvestigate 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
  • Note that This Korea Herald article uses "Bol4". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:42, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Support: It's not an acronym, so Wikipedia style is sentence case. Online sources are mixed, but the more reliable sources seem to use Bol4 more. SchreiberBike |   20:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Whether it's an acronym or not doesn't matter much, it's a name. Names go by WP:COMMONNAME and sometimes WP:ABOUTSELF (example: MGMT is not an acronym either). I checked three pages deep into Google News searches, and while it's true per BarrelProof that Korea Herald uses "Bol4", every other source in those first 30 hits - and I do mean every other one - uses "BOL4". See Woo Ji-yoon quits K-pop duo BOL4 from The Korea Times for an example. Their Spotify and YouTube channel both use "BOL4" with capitals (YT). I would agree that in truly mixed usage, we'd default to title case, but this appears to be just The Korea Herald doing their own thing, it's just one source with an odd style guide. SnowFire (talk) 05:02, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
    • I think its agreed that BOL4 is the common name, but that's not what is at issue here. It is an MOS issue: MOS:ALLCAPS indicates "Avoid writing with all caps...when they have only a stylistic function." We are bound by MOS, even in article titles. In general this usually supersedes common name arguments. As for MGMT, it is at least pronounced as if it were an initialism, so I can understand treating it as if it were one. Bensci54 (talk) 20:50, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
      • I disagree. For my personal slant, COMMONNAME is the king principle here, especially for names, which are external to Wikipedia text. (Obvious example: We don't "fix" the spelling of names, hence Led Zeppelin, and we don't care whether this was "stylistic" or not.) However even speaking from a wider perspective of the Wikipedia community in general, see the famous Wikipedia Star Trek Into Darkness debate. This was a case where there was a black letter Manual of Style guideline but equally clearly it contradicted COMMONNAME. And COMMONNAME proved to have consensus. SnowFire (talk) 21:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Oppose: as per SnowFire. I tried searching "Bol4" on Reliable Korean Sources Search Engine but the results are mostly in all caps. 𝙳.𝟷𝟾𝚝𝚑 𝙼𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚖𝚎 05:12, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
  • Oppose: per MOS:TRADEMARK (which I believe band names are), we pick the title most conforming to the MOS, except when it is consistently styled a particular way by a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources. The discussion here seems to indicate that this requirement is met (because it's basically the same bar as COMMONNAME), so I believe we adopt the stylization. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:39, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
Note: WikiProject Women in Music, WikiProject Korea, and WikiProject Musicians have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 13:24, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

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