Talk:Deadmau5

Hi, I noticed that the current paragraph about the “Meowingtons” trademark dispute seems to skip an important step in the timeline. After Zimmerman’s trademark application was refused in 2016, he filed a petition with the U.S. Trademark Trial and Appeal Board (TTAB) seeking cancellation of the existing MEOWINGTONS registration. This occurred *before* the March 2017 lawsuit filed by Meowingtons LLC, and several reliable sources confirm this order of events.

Here are supporting sources:

• IPWatchdog – detailed discussion of the trademark dispute and timeline: https://ipwatchdog.com/2017/03/25/dj-deadmau5-trademark-suit-meowingtons-cat-themed-apparel-retailer/
• PR Newswire – confirms Meowingtons LLC’s registration details and 2014 commercial use: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/statement-regarding-lawsuit-between-meowingtons-llc-operating-as-meowingtonscom-vs-joel-zimmerman-also-known-as-deadmau5-prof-meowingtons-and-ronica-holdings-ltd-300423034.html
• The Hollywood Reporter – covers the cancellation petition and countersuit: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/deadmau5-escalates-meowingtons-trademark-cat-fight-countersuit-1003186/
• Vice – covers the March 2017 lawsuit: https://www.vice.com/en/article/deadmau5-meowingtons-suit
• DJ Mag – details the countersuit and domain forfeiture request: https://djmag.com/news/deadmau5-continues-battle-meowingtons-trademark
• World Intellectual Property Review – reports that the dispute was settled in 2018: https://www.worldippreview.com/news/deadmau5-settles-meowingtons-trademark-dispute-5570

To reflect the full timeline accurately, I suggest replacing the current paragraph with the following updated and sourced version:

In 2015, Zimmerman sought to register a U.S. trademark for “Prof. Meowingtons,” the name of his cat adopted in 2010 and used in merchandise and branding since 2011. The application was refused in 2016 due to an existing trademark registration for “MEOWINGTONS,” held by Meowingtons LLC, an online retailer founded in 2014 that sells cat-themed apparel and accessories. Following the refusal, Zimmerman filed a petition with the U.S. Trademark Trial and Appeal Board in 2016 seeking cancellation of the Meowingtons LLC registration, arguing prior commercial use of the name. In March 2017, Meowingtons LLC owner Emma Bassiri filed a federal lawsuit against Zimmerman for trademark infringement and unfair competition. On May 15, 2017, Zimmerman filed a countersuit seeking cancellation of the registration and forfeiture of the Meowingtons.com domain. In March 2018, the World Intellectual Property Review reported that the parties had reached a confidential settlement resolving the dispute.

Thanks for reviewing! ~2025-35803-40 (talk) 21:59, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello 2025-35803-40! I am seeing this for the first time now. I will update the timeline after verifying your suggestion. Thank you so much for the correction! Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 15:59, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

It seems that the order is already reflected in the article;

• Zimmerman attempts to register trademark.
• Trademark rejected.
• Files petition.
• Is sued by Bassiri.

I'm not sure what needs to be revised! Thank you, Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 16:12, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look and for the clarification.

The issue isn’t just the order of events, but the lack of clarity about the *nature* of the “petition.” The article currently does not clearly state that Zimmerman filed a *TTAB cancellation petition* seeking to cancel the existing MEOWINGTONS registration, nor does it explain that this was an affirmative legal action initiated prior to the federal lawsuit.

Several sources (e.g., The Hollywood Reporter, IPWatchdog) specifically describe this as a TTAB cancellation proceeding that occurred before the March 2017 infringement suit. Clarifying that this was a TTAB cancellation petition, rather than a generic filing, would help readers understand the legal sequence and context more accurately.

Happy to clarify further if helpful, and thank you again for reviewing. ~2025-40595-19 (talk) 00:43, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I have made a new revision of the page in lieu of your comments. The addition provides additional specificity in casual Wikivoice. The reason that these excerpts of the article do not read as in depth as you have suggested is because Wikipedia is meant to appeal to a casual audience, providing information at a kind of middle rung between just hearing about it and doing deeper research. For this reason, specifying that Zimmerman initiated a TTAB cancellation petition is outside the immediate depth of this article; which is only meant to be a cursory explanation of Zimmerman's life, work, and career.

I do greatly appreciate your attention to this, still. If this specific case passed WP:GNG, than specific mentions like this would be key and valuable to the scope of the page. But since this topic likely doesn't pass GNG, and is only explained straightforwardly here, the depth of content advised does not match your suggestion. Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 06:19, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Under the artistry tab, it is listed that he uses FL Studio, although he has put work into the creation of FL he used Ableton. On all of his streams and in his master class he uses ableton and has also said he uses it for its midi usage can also be used in tandem with the light shows. I can supply video clips but if you look at any of his streams or videos he is using Ableton Jkings57 (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

@Jkings57: can you provide a news article or other reliable source to verify all these facts? I only included what reputable information I could find. Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 06:03, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN780dTTsZ4&list=PLK8xxk0_lWkpfQhlbEOa3Vr0TFTcpS0LM

The link I posted is of Joel producing 8 years ago, but he's been using Ableton for tracking music for many years now. ThousandFootWave (talk) 04:44, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

These are third party Twitch stream rips uploaded on YouTube. Unique YouTube videos, like interviews, are one of the few reasons a YouTube video can be a source of Wikipedia, but these, however, do not pass our quality standard. Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 21:11, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

@GoingBatty and Lustiger seth: per this move discussion, deadmau5 is to be capitalized across this project. It seems that consensus is skewing towards respecting stylisms lately though, and some cases seem unclear when pursuing policy adherence. It was pitched there that a broader discussion could be started about this again. How does that sound to you guys? Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 14:50, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

@GoatLordServant: The capitalization for this musician doesn't matter to me. I regularly look at Category:Pages which use a template in place of a magic word, noticed that @Lustiger seth added {{DISPLAYTITLE|deadmau5}}, and changed it to {{DISPLAYTITLE:deadmau5}}. GoingBatty (talk) 16:56, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi!

Thanks for fixing my syntax error, GoingBatty. :-)

@GoatLordServant: Well, i'm not interested in long discussions about this topic. I just thought the DISPLAYTITLE was missing. I did not see the archived discussion, i looked here, only. So, thanks for that hint.

-- seth (talk) 18:40, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Alright, thanks all :) Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 18:44, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

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change 2025 to 2026 in second paragraph under "2025–present: Error5 and upcoming 2026 album" Ezra351 (talk) 08:14, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: The part you are requesting to change is no longer in the article. Theeverywhereperson talk here 08:29, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

On February 11th, 2025, Zimmerman posted a statement to social media addressing a deepfake video, stating that he "woke up to some idiot DJ’s Instagram story [...] that depicted me standing there promoting him and his music"

this was this year, not last year Ezra351 (talk) 05:23, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

@Ezra351: thanks for the catch. The section header is right though, since it starts from Jupiter's release and onward. But on the other thing... I keep forgetting it's not 2025 anymore. Sorry about that! Viva la horde, ~ GoatLordServant^(Talk) 04:27, 16 March 2026 (UTC)