Talk:Feast day

This is a question for redirects for discussion, where redirects can be deleted or retargeted. An RfC is premature, and an RfD is more likely to attract further participation. --BDD (talk) 00:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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Moved from User talk:Jfhutson § Why do you think Feast day should redirect to Religious festival.3F

– JFH (talk) 02:48, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

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Why do you think Feast day should redirect to Religious festival? I don't think any other religion uses that term to describe its festival. (Don't you think at-least you ask should ask for a consensus to change a link that is present from July 9, 2003‎) The term feast day is explicitly used in Christianity and popularly meant to mean a christian feast day. You have mentioned dictionary definition is general. But wikipedia is not a dictionary. Wikipedia:Article_titles#Use_commonly_recognizable_names states: Use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources. You can do a google search for that term to know that it is frequently used to denote a Christian feast day from calendar of saints. Also numerous christian articles (esp., saints) have linked to feast day previously, all of them are now linking to wrong page. --Jayarathina (talk) 17:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

This is going from a general thing to a particular one just because there are lots of Catholics and they have lots of feasts. Aren't Christmas etc. feast days too, even in Catholicism? My edit was motivated by needing to link evangelical feast. Almost every religion has feast days, so it is POV to redirect feast day to Calendar of Saints, just as much as redirecting God to God in Christianity just because most people are Christians. --JFH (talk) 19:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

You are not getting my point. Please read the article Calendar of saints, it is not a Catholic one. It is generic christian article. My point is this term is to refer to christian calendar of Saint. Not specific to any denomination. I don't understand the problem you are referring in linking to evangelical feast. All famous dictionaries explicitly state that this term is used to denote a christian holiday (google oxford). Unlike the term God which is used by many other religions, term feast day is majorly used by Christians alone. If you are still not convinced, create consensus before changing. And please revert back while creating consensus. --Jayarathina (talk) 01:35, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Both of your definitions state especially a Christian holiday. There is clearly a problem with implying that even Christians always mean saints' days when they refer to feast days. Many Christians reject the idea of a cult of saints, and that is part of what the evangelical feast article is about. Reformed Christians reject saints, saints' days and the calendar of saints, but they do not reject the evangelical feast days, which are listed in the article. But besides all that, it is not true that "feast day" is limited to Christianity. See this (the sixth Google result for "feast day"), this, and this. --JFH (talk) 02:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I never said feast day is limited to Christianity. The sixth Google result you gave actually emphasis my point, is a "christian" result. (I cannot find even a single non-christian link in the first 10 pages of Google search, after which I gave up) I repeat: If you are still not convinced, create consensus before changing. Do NOT move unilaterally. And please revert back while creating consensus. Please see {{infobox saint}}, feast day is linking to generic article, when it is suppose to be linking to a christian article. --Jayarathina (talk) 02:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

OK, you got me on the Indian saint days, I assumed it had to do with Native American religion, but I think my other arguments are sufficient, and here is another link on non-Christian feast days. I do not need to revert back before we build consensus, my edit stood for several months. --JFH (talk) 02:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Also it would be nice if you let me know where and how you plan to create consensus (suggestion: Talk:Feast day). Thanks. --Jayarathina (talk) 02:25, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I suggest that the redirect to be restored to Calendar of saints. My reasons are:

The term feast day is explicitly used in Christianity and popularly meant to mean a christian feast day.(google oxford)
I don't think any other religion uses that term to describe its festival.
If evangelical don't celebrate saint's feast days is considered a reason, then this article should be created to mention different POV rather than redirecting.
Wikipedia:Article_titles#Use_commonly_recognizable_names states: Use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources.

Why is this redirected to Religious festival, why shouldn't it be redirected to festival? what makes feast day "Religious"? Also if this redirection is accepted, then numerous articles have been redirected to feast days, they all of those should be fixed may be using a BOT. --Jayarathina (talk) 03:45, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Oppose, please see the conversation collapsed above. Even within Christianity, feast day refers to holidays other than saints' days. --JFH (talk) 04:45, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

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