Talk:Ferdinand Marcos
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Q1: Why does the opening describe Ferdinand Marcos Sr. as a dictator and a kleptocrat?
A1: Several discussions have already been held, with the consensus being that reliable sources support that Ferdinand Marcos Sr. was a kleptocrat and a dictator. Wikipedia is written in a neutral point of view and facts overrule personal views and opinions. As such, Wikipedia does not censor nor whitewash these facts, regardless of the other works and accomplishments of Ferdinand Marcos Sr.
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Torturer category
Would the torturer category be appropriate here? 2600:100C:A21D:971A:3DFA:A9B2:FCD8:A60 (talk) 06:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unless it was documented that it was Marcos himself who did the torturing, then no. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:48, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are plenty of sources that state his regime was responsible for torturing. Why do other dictators have the mass murderer category as well? 2600:100C:A20D:BB75:D500:DBA6:3203:9CF9 (talk) 23:13, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose you need to read and understand the arguments on the mass murderer section above. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:40, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Bring that up on their pages as well. 2600:382:2400:1702:A0F5:BE3B:C176:8503 (talk) 23:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know what I'd bring up on which page. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:14, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Bring that up on their pages as well. 2600:382:2400:1702:A0F5:BE3B:C176:8503 (talk) 23:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose you need to read and understand the arguments on the mass murderer section above. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:40, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- There are plenty of sources that state his regime was responsible for torturing. Why do other dictators have the mass murderer category as well? 2600:100C:A20D:BB75:D500:DBA6:3203:9CF9 (talk) 23:13, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Protected edit request on 19 August 2025
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60.51.152.127 (talk) 02:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC) ssss
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RFNirmala (talk) 03:35, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
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The Marcos Accounts
Why do you think in all this time you have never found the Marcos Accounts, because he was far cleverer than you think considering who you are and your resources. Where would he hide payments from President Reagan for his star war program for leasing the Philippine Nuclear Power Station, the French built the only thing he never told Reagan that they never commissioned it that’s Marcos. Let me know if you need any more information.i have been trying to write a book but haven’t got the patience I can send a picture of how I came across the information it will give you a date and what country.If you have an agent in the UK give them my number but it will cost you I’m to old now .
2A00:23CC:B4C1:8701:DDFB:1AF8:E34B:68CD (talk) 11:54, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but it seems you do not know how Wikipedia works. We cannot use whatever original research you know about the hidden wealth unless you have it published in some reputable news outlet or journal. Wikipedia is ran by volunteers around the world and do rely on already published information.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 12:16, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also do not post your own real name and personal contacts here. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 15:12, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
Kleptocrat
Hi, I recently removed "kleptocrat" from the lead sentence. I am aware that this has been talked over many times on this page, and will consequently be reverted. I still vehemently disagree with the notion that Marcos is the seemingly the only embezzler chief of state/government who merits "kleptocrat" in the first sentence. In fact, I think it's ridiculous, as long as we don't call Hitler a "genocidaire" in his lead sentence, or Trump a "demagogue", or at least Suharto a fellow "kleptocrat". This is a very weird and irregular treatment of a large, important Wikipedia page, and I'm stumped how it's held on for this long. Theodore Christopher (talk) 03:14, 10 December 2025 (UTC)