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Q1: Why does this article have The in the title? Most articles don't.
A1: The name The Holocaust is common usage. Article titles follow subjects, not other articles. See also previous discussions on the question, linked in the move banner below. Q2: The Holocaust was not only about Jews; the total death toll was more like 11+ million...
A2: As it says in the lead sentence which defines the scope of the article, the Holocaust "was the genocide of European Jews during World War II". As explained elsewhere in the lead and body, "Separate Nazi persecutions killed millions of other non-Jewish civilians and prisoners of war (POWs)". As also explained in the lead and the body, "the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups"; such uses of the term Holocaust constitute "significant minority views" as explained in Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy. In accordance with WP:NPOV policy, Wikipedia states the mainstream view in its own voice, while also explaining significant minority views. "Reflections on Terminology for Holocaust Comparison". from International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance. 2024. (PDF) |
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"Seperate" distinction is a Wiki myth
The scholarly consensus on the Holocaust was that it also included the attempt to rid Germany of numerous other groups in addition to Jews, including many specific ethnicities. This article should be cleaned up of all undue (incessant) original research by editors suggesting otherwise. ~2026-68502-0 (talk) 20:10, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- seconded. the persecution and genocide of jews was the shoah. the holocaust is the overall extermination campaign, which included the romani, homosexuals, transgender people, political opponents, disabled people, jehovah's witnesses, and more, including jews and the shoah. i find it completely ridiculous that wikipedia of all places gets this complete wrong. Katal003 (talk) 08:36, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- We already had an extensive RFC on this . Ramos1990 (talk) 06:51, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
- I agree. While the Holocaust is widely known for its targeting of the Jewish people, the other groups shouldn't fail to be mentioned as many other minority groups lost their lives in large numbers. ~2026-14250-94 (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Is there some text that should be in the article that is not in the article? Is there a group that should be included that was missed? Mikewem (talk) 21:16, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should make it more clear that "unlike their policies toward other groups, the Nazis sought to murder every Jew" and that some other groups have their own terms for what happened during this period (Romani Holocaust) Moxy🍁 21:46, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Is there some text that should be in the article that is not in the article? Is there a group that should be included that was missed? Mikewem (talk) 21:16, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
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We shall change the deaths from "6 million jews" to "6 million jews, 5.7million soviet civillians etc etc" QueenEva (talk) 04:52, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
Not done: Read the lead paragraph of the article, which already acknowledges that Nazis also conducted large-scale executions of non-Jews during the Holocaust. However, as the section Terminology and scope explains. the term "The Holocaust" is generally used to refer to the systematic genocide of Jewish populations during World War II, not to that of non-Jewish populations. Statistics about the numbers of non-Jewish people killed by the Nazis during WWII can be found in other articles here. General Ization Talk 05:00, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
