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Ideological forebears
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I think it's misleading to talk about the Conservative Revolution in the intro. Like other alt-right-type movements, the intellectual lineage is from mid-century fascism to various post-war far-right thinkers (Benoit etc.) who tried to formulate a version of white nationalism that wouldn't look like nazism. But the boundaries between this kind of far-right politics, neofascism, and neo-nazism are very porous. Prezbo (talk) 13:46, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- here's the odd thing, it probably isn't descended from there, because I came to think about this independently from anything related to naziism, and purely out of a concern for the safety of human rights. Moreover I am a third worlder, thinking about it as an ideal policy in order to protect a bastion of freedoms. It seems to me that it probably came independently out of concern for the real rate of crime, fanaticism and cultural replacement on the ground. 180.241.144.247 (talk) 08:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
"Identitarian" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Identitarian has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 20 § Identitarian until a consensus is reached. Skemous (talk) 17:12, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
"A known fact"
A persistent IP editor keeps trying to delete content supported by a reliable source. They claim that The replacement of white Europeans is a known fact,
Evidently the nutcase forums they inhabit aren't too bothered by logic but maybe I can explain in simple terms what is going on in the world so that maybe at least one person might stop and think about why they are being manipulated into believing this lie:
- People who have a precarious existence with high rates of childhood mortality and no social safety net, tend to have big families. A hundred years ago, this was as true for North Americans, Europeans and East Asians as it continues to be true for the rest of the world today.
- With good health care, access to contraception, insurance, reliable employment opportunities, social safety nets and other factors, people have small or very small families. This is especially true in Korea and Japan, but also true in Europe, North America and eastern China. Meanwhile the population of the rest of the world continues to grow.
- Therefore the share of the world's population represented by North Americans, Europeans and East Asians goes down. There are no elites making this happen. It is simply the consequence of millions of people making individual personal decisions to have fewer or even no children.
Simples. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked by 333dot per WP:NONAZIS Doug Weller talk 07:52, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- This is drivel of the highest order. No one is talking about the total share - they're talking about the demographics of western nations ~2025-41838-85 (talk) 12:45, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- @331dot: Well, here's another (or the same one on a new IP). Check contributions and note the previous anon account, Special:Contributions/~2025-37765-41. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not clear on why I've been asked here. 331dot (talk) 16:00, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for not being more clear. The comment from the temp account above reads as if it's written by the editor whose IP you blocked. Given that and the fact that this appears to be the second temp account used by this editor (based upon their leap into an edit war started by the temp account I linked to), I wanted to make you aware, in case this was an episode of ban evasion through IP cycling. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:21, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. It's hard to say, it could be a different person. The IPs are very different. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Fair enough. It's not like there's any dearth of people with similar views out there, these days. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:49, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. It's hard to say, it could be a different person. The IPs are very different. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for not being more clear. The comment from the temp account above reads as if it's written by the editor whose IP you blocked. Given that and the fact that this appears to be the second temp account used by this editor (based upon their leap into an edit war started by the temp account I linked to), I wanted to make you aware, in case this was an episode of ban evasion through IP cycling. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:21, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not clear on why I've been asked here. 331dot (talk) 16:00, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- @331dot: Well, here's another (or the same one on a new IP). Check contributions and note the previous anon account, Special:Contributions/~2025-37765-41. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:04, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
