Talk:Independent Together
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Ownership, misinformation, and fair editing process
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Hi all – I’m Dan Milward, a candidate under Independent Together. I’m editing transparently with full sourcing. However, the current revision:
📌 Key facts needing addition or correction:1. Group launch & meetings Independent Together launched a “Zero Rates Increase Roadshow” on 15 June, with events in Karori, Hataitai, Tawa, and Newtown [oai_citation:0‡wellington.scoop.co.nz](https://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=171473&utm_source=chatgpt.com). 2. Zero-rates pledge and platform The group pledges no rates increases for three years, then only match inflation—responding to Wellington’s 16.9% hike for 2024/25 [oai_citation:1‡en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Together?utm_source=chatgpt.com). 3. Group composition Eleven candidates—including Ray Chung for mayor, and council hopefuls Ken Ah Kuoi, Andrea Compton, Lily Brown, and myself—are listed on the official site [oai_citation:2‡en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Together?utm_source=chatgpt.com). 4. Leadership & campaign focus Ray Chung, current Onslow-Western councillor, leads the ticket, promising cost cuts to council jobs and rejection of party politics in local government [oai_citation:3‡wellington.scoop.co.nz](https://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=171244&utm_source=chatgpt.com) [oai_citation:4‡rnz.co.nz](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/563266/wellington-mayoral-hopeful-ray-chung-promises-to-slash-council-jobs?utm_source=chatgpt.com). 5. Endorsements Better Wellington endorsed Ray Chung and ten Independent Together candidates [oai_citation:5‡betterwellington.org.nz](https://betterwellington.org.nz/strongest-team-in-over-20-years-contests-wellington-city-council-elections/?utm_source=chatgpt.com). ✅ My request:
Let’s improve the article based on reliable sources and community consensus, not gatekeeping edits. Thanks, Dan Milward (Independent Together – Pukehīnau/Lambton) Danmilward (talk) 10:08, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
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Edit request
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Hello. I’d appreciate your help in updating part of the Independent Together article to reflect a more accurate summary of the group’s position. This section currently reads: The group would also campaign on opposing party politics on the city council. Chung says he has never belonged to any political party. According to Chung, some of his colleagues had stated that the group was "a right-wing party" but he rejected this, saying he didn't know what the political affiliations of any of the candidates were. Here’s a suggested alternative that more accurately reflects our public statements and platform: The group campaigns on opposing party politics on the city council. Chung states he has never belonged to any political party, and the group’s public pillars are focused on fiscal responsibility, essential services, and local governance. While some opponents have described the group as “right-wing,” Chung has rejected this characterisation, stating he doesn’t know the political affiliations of any other candidates. Open to discussion, of course — just keen to ensure balance and clarity. Thanks, DanMilward Danmilward (talk) 03:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
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Misinformation
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Hi Liz, I'm reaching out as an ordinary contributor — a dad, technologist, and community volunteer — seeking guidance and admin oversight regarding the Independent Together article. It appears a small group of politically active users — including User:IdiotSavant and User:TheLoyalOrder — have been coordinating edits that I believe violate Wikipedia’s WP:NPOV and potentially WP:COI policies. - User:IdiotSavant is a known political commentator [redacted] - Both users have engaged in public commentary and mockery of the Wikipedia editing process on platforms like [redacted]. I’ve attempted to engage in good faith and have raised concerns on their talk pages. However, the editing pattern increasingly resembles activism rather than neutral contribution — and it’s having real-world impact during an active election period. Whether these individuals agree or not, Independent Together is a non-political civic-focused group trying to maintain accurate, balanced representation. These editors are actively blocking attempts to add even our own pillars to the article or reflect both sides fairly. It's become unmanageable. I’m unsure what the next step is, but I’m requesting admin review of the situation. I’ve posted a screenshot below as proof of the external coordination happening around this article: Thanks for your time, DanMilward Danmilward (talk) 03:31, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
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Edit request: Clarify 'political ticket' description
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@Cloventt: Hi David — thanks again for your earlier comments and guidance. I’d like to propose a minor but important wording change to the opening sentence of the article to better reflect Independent Together’s framing and how it has been perceived publicly: Current: Independent Together (IT) are a local-body political ticket that was established to contest the 2025 Wellington City Council election. Proposed: Independent Together (IT) is a civic-focused group contesting the 2025 Wellington City Council election. Supporting sources: - A May 2025 NZ Herald article reports that 64% of Wellingtonians oppose party politics on council ([NZ Herald](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/wellingtons-crown-observer-issues-warning-over-party-politics-round-the-council-table/WWZQQVB3PJEL3J52NM4JW7JKDI/)). - This is based on a Curia Research poll commissioned by Better Wellington ([Curia summary](https://www.curia.co.nz/2025/02/full-curia-better-wellington-poll-of-wellington/), [Scoop coverage](https://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=169559)). - The February 2025 Curia survey shows Independent Together candidates received broad support, reinforcing their non-partisan positioning. This wording avoids the implied party-political structure of “political ticket” while retaining neutrality and reflecting how the group is understood in public polling and media. Happy to adjust further if needed. — DanMilward
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