Talk:Islamophobic trope

The term “Islamophobic” is misapplied here. The 72 virgins trope, while not Quranic, originates from Hadith and has been cited by extremist Islamic groups and clerics themselves. Labeling it Islamophobic when referenced by outsiders, while ignoring its use within parts of the Muslim world, is intellectually dishonest. It confuses criticism of extremist ideology with bigotry, shielding harmful narratives from scrutiny. Rackaballa (talk) 03:49, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

This appears to be an apologetics and advocacy page for Islam. It should not be on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.92.254.163 (talk) 05:44, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

To elaborate, the article presents all critiques or embarrassing descriptions of Islam as invalid or "bigotry" in WP:WIKIVOICE, and overwhelmingly lacks a WP:BALANCE of sources for the opposing side.

To name just one example among many, consider the following sentence:

The Islam oppresses women trope is a widespread Islamophobic stereotype

How is Islamophobia defined?

Islamophobia is the irrational fear of, hostility towards, or hatred of the religion of Islam or Muslims in general.

Thus the article claims from the outset, in WP:WIKIVOICE, that criticism of Islam's treatment of women is "irrational" or "hateful". That is completely unacceptable and unencyclopedic. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not an advocacy page for Islam. 168.92.254.163 (talk) 22:35, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Yeah no I’m a Muslim but this article is pretty bad and it reads like the stuff you read from apologist websites. Wereyoung31 (talk) 11:26, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Yes it is islamophobic trope because women are oppressed by some Muslim traditional societies. Islam as religion does not oppress women. --Altenmann >talk 20:54, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

@Altenmann: it is islamophobic trope because Non sequitur. Islam as religion does not oppress women. That's your personal opinion, not an encyclopedic fact. And there are plenty of academic sources that disagree. Are you a Muslim? 168.92.254.163 (talk) 22:12, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

Is there a good reference to use for Shiny Happy Jihad's track listings, that doesn't advertise sales of the album? preferably something that doesn't even directly link to free audio? A couple of the track names directly reference tropes already included here on the page. There's reviews cited on the Wikipedia page for album, but no citation for the track listing. I thought of Spotify or iTunes links, but after listening to a track or two of "Shiny Happy Jihad" on Spotify, it's definitely not something I want to boost sales for, it's probably even worse than BoJo's novel. Currently I've just put a link to the Wikipedia page in the media section, but citable track listings would be more relevant. 211.30.68.3 (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I can't see it there now, I probably just forgot to save the edit, if somebody removed it for a reason please say something here. 211.30.67.90 (talk) 04:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

The "Homophobia and transphobia" section (and possibly other sections) is full of whataboutism, particularly is regards to Israel/Palestine. Whether or not some Israelis or Jews are homophobic has no bearing on whether or not some or most Muslims, Arabs, or Palestinians are. The text and images chosen are a deliberate attempt to use this page to demonize and discredit Jews and Israel, which aside from being horrible, is not what this page is about. The queer protester in the image is most likely not a Muslim, so it has no relevance to the validity of the claims, and neither does Lehava's homophobia.

Qualiesin (talk) 14:53, 13 July 2025 (UTC)