Talk:Muammar Gaddafi
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Omissions
I'm a little confused on why this page doesn't make mention (or only a brief mention) of several alleged crimes against humanity committed during Gaddafi's tenure despite being classified as a "good article", such as the Abu Salim Prison massacre, cooperation of torture between the US and Tripoli, or the alleged ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide against Berbers. With the numerous accounts of torture in Libya at that time, I think Gaddafi would be fit for the torturers category, as well. JPHC2003 (talk) 23:02, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- A claim of "Linguistic Genocide" by Genocide Watch would obviously get no coverage anywhere on Wikipedia. Abu Salim prison massacre is disputed with no independent investigation ever confirming anything. You are citing "the documents, found by Human Rights Watch workers, have not been seen by the BBC or independently verified." They also need no mention on the article. Zalaraz (talk) 02:51, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Human Rights Watch is considered a perennial source on Wikipedia. It could at least be attributed, correct? Also, why did you get rid of the page on the massacre? It was a fairly large event regarding the deaths of 1000 people. Amnesty International met with Gaddafi in 2004, (page 54) and he admitted the killings happened, but claimed both sides had done an equal amount of killing. You could've at least began some sort of arbitration on whether or not it was warranted. JPHC2003 (talk) 05:55, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think it is needed at all, not even with attribution because if we present it neutrally then it would look unnecessary. Your Amnesty International source presents a very different view from Gaddafi, which has nothing in similar compared to the alleged massacre. Zalaraz (talk) 11:18, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Human Rights Watch is considered a perennial source on Wikipedia. It could at least be attributed, correct? Also, why did you get rid of the page on the massacre? It was a fairly large event regarding the deaths of 1000 people. Amnesty International met with Gaddafi in 2004, (page 54) and he admitted the killings happened, but claimed both sides had done an equal amount of killing. You could've at least began some sort of arbitration on whether or not it was warranted. JPHC2003 (talk) 05:55, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Omissions again
Anyone else who's an editor on this page want to respond to what I wrote above without deleting pages? JPHC2003 (talk) 22:19, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- Could warrant a place but this article needs to be split into sub-article. You could throw it in before it starts being split though (no opinion on the proposal, you could try to form consensus though). Sahib-e-Qiran, He Who is Otherwise Known as EasternShah 06:38, 10 February 2026 (UTC)
Article review
It has been a while since this article was reviewed, so I took a look and noticed that the article was quite long, with over 15,000 words. I think lots of this information can be spun out into new or existing articles, and information here can be summarised more effectively. @100cellsman: you asked for this article to be reviewed: do you have any additional concerns? Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 03:23, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
Muammar Gaddafi
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- Result: Issues appear to have been resolved. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:28, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
When this article passed its GAN in 2013, it was over 11,000 words. Now, it is almost 16,000, almost double the recommended size at WP:AS and WP:TOOBIG that an article would be considered for WP:SPINOUT. I think this article needs an overhaul and unnecessary detail moved out of the article to fulfil WP:GA? 3b. Z1720 (talk) 15:42, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Do you see any other issues with the article apart from total word count? Zalaraz (talk) 04:21, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a way to know the word count? Thepharoah17 (talk) 20:31, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
- User:Thepharoah17: 15,489 as of May 25. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:34, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
- After looking at the article on the Bulgarian wiki bg:Муамар Кадафи which is a featured article, I created the article Early life and career of Muammar Gaddafi and shortened the corresponding section on the Muammar Gaddafi article. Thepharoah17 (talk) 22:20, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
