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Should this article be expanded to reflect the "ongoing space race" engaged in by Asian and other nations? (No.)
No, for exactly the same reason that American Civil War should not be expanded to include the 1960-1996 Guatemalan Civil War. The scope of this article concerns an era of history during the Cold War when the United States competed with the Soviet Union for preeminence in space exploration. It ended by the time of the Soviet Union's collapse and the end of the Cold War. Subsequent space programs developed by other nations therefore cannot be a part of it, despite journalists' attempts to re-use the term. Wikipedia should cover topics in their proper historical perspective, and their timeless facets recognized by Wikipedia consensus should not be muddled or diffused by recent events; see WP:Recentism, Latter-day space programs should be covered in other articles. Shouldn't this article say that the Soviet Union or the United States won the space race? (No.)
No, for the following reasons:
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Right now, the article is structured chronologically, with titles such as "Disaster strikes both sides" and "Both programs recover". Is this proper formatting? This seems more like a story than separate sections about a topic. Maybe this should be a series? WikiFloath (talk) 15:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Exploration of Venus
hey, Terrainman! I agree that section on Venus is needed, but I think you should trim and tone it down a bit. Currently, it's just a list of bulletpoints condensed from the Exploration of Venus article. You ignored Pioneer Venus Orbiter, but listed every single Soviet mission of the Venera program, all 14 of them! You also ignored Magellan (spacecraft), that was launched before the collapse of the USSR. This article is not about the Venera program, and not about the exploration of Venus, so I don't think it needs a description of every Soviet Venus mission.
Regarding "however", please read WP:HOWEVER.
The US never caught up or matched the Soviet efforts to explore Venus, but did claim the title of the first successful probe to have flew by her.
- this is not a NPOV, please read WP:NPOV. Artem.G (talk) 19:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I will shorten the segment to only first firsts in the exploration of Venus. Honestly I was only thinking about pre moon landing exploration and didn't think to include Pioneer Venus. I understand NPOV, and I disagree that this sentence violates it. Please suggest a reworded version? It is clear that the soviets invested most more in the exploration of venus than the US and put several landers on the surface (againist no Nasa landers). 𝙏𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙢𝙖𝙣地形人 (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Further more, WP:HOWEVER also lists 'but' in the same list of words to watch. Which is what however was changed to. "Words to watch: but, despite, however, though, although, furthermore, while ..." 𝙏𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙢𝙖𝙣地形人 (talk) 19:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have shortened the segment. I removed every soviet mission which was not significant (such as being a first in space exploration) but included NASA missions which were not significant (did not signify a first), in the interest of giving perspective as to what NASA were doing for Venus exploration at the time. 𝙏𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙢𝙖𝙣地形人 (talk) 20:10, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Distinction between Moon race and the space race as a whole
I think there needs to be more clarity in the article with regard to the moon race, since often the moon race aspect of the space race is spoken of as if it were the space race itself and not a part of it. This is particularly present in the lead and 'legacy' section, as well as some other segements. The third paragraph of the lead is specifically talking about the moon missions of the Soviets and US, but talks about it as if it were talking about the space race holistically. This needs to be adjusted I believe. 𝙏𝙚𝙧𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙢𝙖𝙣地形人 (talk) 19:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
GA Review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Space Race/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Terrainman (talk · contribs) 14:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Premeditated Chaos (talk · contribs) 06:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
With all respect to the nominator, who is clearly intent on improving this article, it does not meet the GA criteria at this time. Literally at the time it was nominated, it contained eleven {{cn}} tags. It's down to six now, three days later, but in my opinion intentionally nominating something that's got that many clearly-flagged issues and expecting a full review is just disrespectful to the entire GA process. Some of those tags are attached to entire unsourced paragraphs! It's just not on. On top of that, the article is clearly not stable, as major revisions are still underway, and on top of that there's an apparent editing dispute over image placement. Please only renominate this when it is complete, properly referenced, and stable. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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