Talk:Spaghetti

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original: Usually the pasta is white because refined flour is used, but whole wheat flour may be added.[4]

Change to: The pasta is usually white because refined flour is used, but whole wheat flour may be added.[4] AddictedToEditing (talk) 05:42, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

 Done x2step (lets talk 💌) 06:00, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

The redirect Spaghetti con puntarelle, acciughe e briciole has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 October 30 § Spaghetti con puntarelle, acciughe e briciole until a consensus is reached. consarn _{(talck) (contirbuton s)} 12:40, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

For anyone from WP:PCR looking at a pending edit from a TA, look at the IP for the TA first if you have WP:TAIV. There is ab IP editor that has persistently been attempting to insert typical LLM-generated text to this article. --Gurkubondinn (talk) 15:59, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

The editor has willingly WP:LLMDISCLOSEd:

• User talk:~2025-38988-15 §§ December 2025​ and Using Google AI and make your own words
• User talk:Gurkubondinn §§ Using Google AI to make articles easier​ and Using Yandex text to translate to English using Bing Translate

--Gurkubondinn (talk) 19:08, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

Agent VII: Since you have WP:TAIV, I think this user might be trying to game PCR by making edits from different TAs. When you reverted Diff/1327104880, that restored Diff/1327096872 since it was made by a different TA. --Gurkubondinn (talk) 18:29, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

Julietdeltalima: might be worth knowing for you as well as you just rejected their last edit. --Gurkubondinn (talk) 18:47, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

@Gurkubondinn I have requested to upgrade the protection to WP:SEMI at WP:RFPP. Thank you. Agent 007 (talk) 19:06, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Note I have applied a pblock to the source of the TAs from this article. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

Please see link in Italian

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti

Thank you very much

Ant Gla Ant Gla (talk) 12:10, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

This would be a mistake. This article certainly needs more work to discuss the academic debate on the origins of spaghetti, but in the 2002 translated edition of Serventi and Sabban, the claim does not seem to appear, and what does appear are several passages that contradict it. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 13:27, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Some articles' links below:

https://www.timesofsicily.com/trabia-ancient-home-spaghetti/

https://www.enjoysicilia.it/en/palermo-area/trabia/

https://www.threefarmsisland.com/how-many-things-we-know-about-the-origin-of-pasta/

https://passepartout-homes.com/did-you-know-that-pasta-was-first-invented-in-sicily/

https://www.accademiasicilianadellapasta.it/the-origin-of-the-pasta-is-entirely-sicilian/?lang=en

https://www.the-pasta-project.com/sicily/

https://www.mamablip.com/en/blog/sicilian-pasta ~2026-61516-2 (talk) 14:55, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

None of these are scholarly sources. They cannot be used to contradict sources that are. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 15:02, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

This is a further source

https://www.foodinspirationmagazine.com/int60-discovering-authentic-cuisines/is-spaghetti-truly-italian

Please Rollinginhisgrave can you mention a souurce stating that spaghetti was not made in Sicily? Thank you very much Ant Gla (talk) 17:43, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Well, the source you just linked says we shouldn't definitively be saying it was invented in Sicily. "Although spaghetti might originate from the Arabic World. It is where the Italians who started producing the product on a larger scale." Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 17:50, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Rollinginhisgrave are you the person that should be contacted to eventually modify the page of Spaghetti? Are you the person who created the page "Spaghetti"? If so, I will search other sources/references to prove that Spaghetti was first made in Sicily. Thank you Ant Gla (talk) 12:24, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Ant, please see WP:CARTBEFORESOURCE. This is really important on Wikipedia. Can you explain to me in your own words what it means and why I am raising it here? Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 12:55, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Rollinginhisgrave I think there is a misunderstanding. I know what you mean. I was/am trying to understand why the "Spaghetti" page of Wikipedis (in English language) is non completed. In other words, there is no Country of Origin, and no Region of Origin, mentioned. I was/am wondering why this information is not provided in that page, since it is well-established that spaghetti were first invented in Italy, and almost certainly in Sicily. Similarly, it is well-known that pizza was invented in Italy, and in the Region of Campania. This information is obviously present in the page "pizza". Hence, I do not understand why the page "Spaghetti" is not completed, and especially, why Italy (in this case Sicily), is not given the right credit for being the first place where this type of pasta was made and invenetd. That's all. Ant Gla (talk) 19:28, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Can you tell me why you think it is better to search for sources proving that spaghetti was invented in Sicily, rather than looking for the best sources on the history of spaghetti? Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 22:07, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

I am bowing out of this conversation. If a page watcher could keep an eye on inadequately sourced introductions of Sicilian origins it would be appreciated. Likewise for Ant's other edits, see recent activity at at parmigiana and gelato. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | edits) 02:12, 30 January 2026 (UTC)