Talk:Taras Shevchenko

Since Taras Shevchenko wrote in Ukrainian and Russian, both languages should be mentioned. But someone keeps deleting this sourced reference. --2001:718:1E03:5128:D512:F42F:E7B1:AEFD (talk) 19:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Is [tɐˈrɑz ɦrɪˈɦɔrowɪtʃ ʃeu̯ˈtʃɛnko] correct? Why isn't Тарас tɐˈrɑs? And how is Леся Українка pronounced? Espoo (talk) 17:27, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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@Lute88 stop vandalism! He was born in Russian Empire, not Ukraine (that was created in 1991). And he wrote mostly in Russian and create poetry in Ukrainian. So no controversy here, you are trying to discuss with well known facts and try to bring your POV ultra nationalism anti Russia propaganda. Yes there is war, but it have nothing to to with writer born in Russian Empire 200 years ago, your propaganda is not necessarily! Joaziela (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

and another vandal @194.44.253.74 doing the same Joaziela (talk) 17:49, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

and another one @93.75.254.213. Maybe its better to protect the page from vandalism Joaziela (talk) 19:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

probably those are IPs of @Lute88 who is not only not stopping vandalism, but also removed it from his discussion page Joaziela (talk) 20:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Neptune777 you are making edition war and dont participate in discussion page. Already @Freerow2 and @Surveyor Mount were doing the same vandalism as you and also claiming that he wasnt born in Russian Empire. Really i understand that you have war, but stop with this antirussian propaganga, removing Russian art history. Shevchenko was born in Russian Empire, work in Russian language (nine novellas, a diary, and an AUTOBIOGRAPHY), only poetry in Ukrainian, so Russian language wirter and Ukrainian language poet as it was standing before you start with your propaganda Joaziela (talk) 14:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

You ignoring sources, in article. Read sources. Neptune777 (talk) 14:39, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

What sources??? He wrote most, including autobiography in Russian language, and yes sure he create poetry in Ukrainian language... He was born in Russian Empire, Ukraine was created in 1991. This are the facts in all sources. You and your Ukrainian buddies are making antiRussia propaganda in art and creating edition wars... stop it rally annoying. I understand there is a war, but why this dumb propaganda. Really facts don't care about your feelings. War is awful, but stop making art facts its victims. Its art, let it be art. With more and more lies and dumb obvious propaganda, people finally going to be tired of you

What next? If there going to be a Poland-Russia war, are you propagandist going to try to made Andrei Tarkovsky, Igor Stravinsky, or Dmitri Shostakovich more and more Polish that they were? I am even not trying to see the history of edits and Ukrainian propaganda are at Kazimierz Malewicz. Really stop dumb propaganda Joaziela (talk) 15:07, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Joaziela: Unless you want to be blocked you need to cease your personal attacks on other editors.  // Timothy :: talk  15:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@TimothyBlue I don't criticize person, but actions. And @Neptune777 is not the first one, there were also @Lute88 and his accounts, and later @Freerow2 and others. What exactly was personal attack? Just pointing out facts and also address my boredom with this propaganda actions. And mostly, lets not personally focused on me, but on facts. So the facts are again: most, including autobiography in Russian language, poetry in Ukrainian language and he was born at Russian Empire Joaziela (talk) 15:41, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Frederic Chopin was also born in the Russian empire. Would you call him a Russian composer?--Aristophile (talk) 20:53, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Dear @Lute88 (with his another alias "Aristophile", are you also @Neptune777 this account also start to get active after years of silence only to attack this article again), Chopin compose music, if he was writing songs (with lyrics) in Russian language than maybe, but he compose, it not as easy as with writers. From Chopin letters written in Polish (as in French) we know his political stance and for sure he was Polish. Joseph Conrad also was born in then Russian Empire, but because he create in Polish and English he is known as "Polish-British writer". Would you also call his Ukrainian writer? Because he was born in Berdychiv, now for 30 years on territory of Ukraine, but for most of history few centuries Polish.

Ukraine for most of history mean border region between Poland and Russia (its even in its name), and Ukraine it self was created in 1991, so don't go to far naming anybody born at its modern terrain Ukrainian. And for very hypothetical situation even if someone is born after 1991 (to make it easy he wasn't Soviet) on Ukrainian territory and going to create poetry in Ukrainian, literature in Russian and songs in Polish, he is going to be Ukraine language poet, Russian language writer and Polish language songwriter. Joaziela (talk) 23:11, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Stop trying to claim anything you can as russian. This is a form of aggression and perpetuates crimes of the past. Freerow2 (talk) 01:10, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Let's keep it to facts not emotions, don't make art political. The facts are that only his poetry is in Ukrainian language and he born on territory that for 32 years its known as Ukraine country. All his writing including autobiography was in Russian language and he was born on terrain of Russian Empire (previously west (right) bank of Dniepr was known as Poland). Those are historical facts, what kind of aggression and crime had he done because he speaks and write Russian? What crime are committing Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Nabokov, Zamyatin, Solzhenitsyn? Is just reading Russian authors is now a hate speech and "perpetuates crimes"? Or maybe even speaking Russian is already aggression? (Bad and sad news for you: almost half of people living in Ukraine on east Dniepro bank only speak Russian not Ukrainian). Stop this emotional bs, calling it a personal attacks or aggression. Those are facts, and its pity that simple facts are making you sad, but this doesn't change facts. Joaziela (talk) 09:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

His Russian writings are not that sighnificant. His Ukrainian writings are ICONIC. You'll never get WP:CONSENSUS for your position.

Also - Belgian writers who write in French are always Belgian. --Aristophile (talk) 14:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Try to call Chopin a Russian composer. He was a Russian national/citizen/subject. See where that would take you.--Aristophile (talk) 18:09, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

you missed it because Chopin was born in Napoleonic Poland, so French, but there are some his letters in Polish, witnesses etc that he identify Polish, but if he Chopin except compose write novel in Russian, he would be "Russian language writer from Poland", Shevchenko write his own AUTObiography in Russian, so he sefidentifiyng as Russian language writter. His poetry was in Ukrainian so he "Ukrainian language poet", and because right national term for that time is Ruthenian because you could not use 20century terms for historical figures. Nobody (at least me) is saying he was Russian, he just write all except poetry in Russian. So he was "Ruthenian Ukrainian-language poet and Russian-language writter ~~

in Belgium there are also 2 languages, in north Flanders- Flemish/Dutch and south Wallonia: Walloon/French, but there is no Belgian language. Same as Ukrainian on west and Russian in east of Ukraine.

So if Belgian made poetry in French and write novel in Dutch he would be "Belgian French language poet and Flemish writer". Shevchenko create poetry in Ukrainian, all writing in Russian including autobiography. Subject of Russian Empire and because Ukrainian is 20century term also Ruthenian, i hope its a good compromise and it would finish this nationalist edition war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leocadii (talk • contribs) 17:14, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Per WP:SOCKSTRIKE I have struck a comment by Leocadii. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 18:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I intend to get the article to GA, and will start (as I usually do) by checking and organising the references and cutting back unneeded information. As the References section is in a complete mess, I'll be bold and rebuild it using the Harvard referencing system. Amitchell125 (talk) 17:52, 13 September 2023 (UTC)