Talk:Trinamool Congress

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CHATTRA is the correct word. Ronty Samuel 92 (talk) 19:06, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NotJamestack (talk) 19:36, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

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@Wikishovel I want Trinamool Congress's wikipedia page to be updated to show it as the 4th largest party in Lok Sabha from third. For reliable resource please refer to your very Wikipedia page for Samajwadi Party and compare the seats between them GowthamSK2010 (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. As explained in WP:CIRCULAR, we can't use Wikipedia to reference itself. Also, please don't ping individual editors requesting a change: it's considered a bit rude. The edit request template I placed above puts the edit request into a pool of requests, and an editor will get it to it when they get to it. Wikishovel (talk) 10:31, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

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Hello there. myself Bongthinker, and I'm appealing an edit request, to make some changes in the "ideology" and "political position" section of the AITC party. The given "Ideology" tab incorrectly mentions Populism as an ideology (populism is described as a style of governance by political science rather than an ideology, populism has to be attached with "thick" ideologies like socialism and neoliberalism to be functional), I request "Populism" to be replaced with Socialism (since AITC's own party constitution mentions this, they self-identify as a socialist political party). Another mistake is in the "Political Position" tab, which inaccurately mentions "Center". AITC is not a centrist party, it's a breakaway faction of a left-wing party named "Indian National Congress (Indira)", which also practiced socialist ideology and had a pro-Soviet sentiment, and also AITC champions for left-wing political values like social justice, social equality and egalitarianism. I therefore request the changes to be made. Since a lot of people trust Wikipedia and rely on it for credible research, I think mistakes like these would be misleading. Thank You, Bongthinker Bongthinker (talk) 14:25, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 17:16, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

here are your reliable sources :

1). AITC self-identifies as socialist : https://aitcofficial.org/party-constitution/#:~:text=To%20uphold%20and%20work%20for%20the%20furtherance%20of%20the%20principles%20of%20Nationalism%2C%20Socialism%2C%20Secularism%20and%20Democracy. this is under the OBJECTIVES section, this is NOT the "constitutional formality" that every party does in India, this is the objective of the party, and here a party may even choose to mention end of socialism as an objective, nothing illegal there, AITC here has specifically mentioned to work for the furtherance of the principle of "Socialism". if you can grant CPIM "Marxist-Leninist" status based on self-identification, I expect the same for AITC, "socialist" status

2). Populism is not an ideology : Populism#:~:text=The ideational approach,, or conservatism this is from your own website btw, this clearly says populism is a "thin-centered" ideology that attaches itself to thicker ideologies and broader movements like socialism and conservatism

3). AITC is not centrist : https://aitcofficial.org/party-constitution/#:~:text=To%20eradicate%20illiteracy%2C%20poverty%20and%20injustice%20and%20cause%20upliftment%20of%20the%20downtrodden%20by%20ensuring%20social%20equality%2C%20awakening%20of%20the%20masses%20by%20peaceful%20means%2C%20movement%20and%20participation%20in%20the%20lawful%20electoral%20process. here a lot of left-wing political positions can be observed, like, "Social Equality" (explicitly mentioned), "Social Justice" (upliftment of the downtrodden), "Antipoverty" (eradicate poverty), and "Mass Mobilization & Grassroots Empowerment" (awakening of the masses)

4). AITC is a breakaway faction of a left-wing party : Indian National Congress (Requisitionists)#:~:text=Indian National Congress (Requisitionists) was the leftist faction of the Indian National Congress that was registered in 1969 and led by Indira Gandhi. this is proof that the Congress (R) party led by Indira Gandhi was a left-wing party and followed socialist ideology and pro-Soviet sentiment (even from this, Indira later carved her distinct faction, where Mamata Banerjee then shifted). https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mamata-Banerjee#:~:text=She%20became%20involved%20with%20politics%20while%20still%20in%20school%2C%20joining%20the%20Congress%20(I)%20Party%20(a%20breakaway%20faction%20formed%20by%20Indira%20Gandhi%20in%201978%2C%20it%20eventually%20replaced%20the%20original%20Indian%20National%20Congress)%20in%20West%20Bengal this proves that Mamata was part of the Indira-led faction, not a centrist Congress, this was the leftist Congress.

I hope here're your "reliable sources". If you still decide to continue spreading false information, propaganda and misinformation like this on your platform, it'd be a disgrace and a matter of shame.

Thanks, Bongthinker Bongthinker (talk) 19:44, 28 February 2026 (UTC)

5 days and still no changes made. seems like Wikipedia tolerates misinformation on its platform. seems like Wikipedia is okay with hosting propaganda. seems like Wikipedia is pledging to be the upholder of false information at this point. a fake encyclopedia. it's a matter of shame, that you're hosting fake information on your platform, which is trusted by millions of people. Bongthinker (talk) 05:58, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

why are u ignoring the proofs i gave? lemme make some changes in it, cuz later i realized wikipedia links cant be sent, so lemme go ahead

1). Trinamool Congress identifies as socialist : "https://aitcofficial.org/party-constitution/#:~:text=To%20uphold%20and%20work%20for%20the%20furtherance%20of%20the%20principles%20of%20Nationalism%2C%20Socialism%2C%20Secularism%20and%20Democracy." here we can clearly see that TMC pledges to uphold and work for the furtherance of Socialism alongside 3 more principles (this is NOT the constitutional formality that every party has to mention, this is the Objectives of the party, a party in India may choose to even "end socialism" and pledge it in Objectives and it will not be anti-constitutional). if you can consider self-identification as valid for Marxist-Leninist parties like Communist Party of India (Marxist), then i expect the same for Trinamool Congress.

2). Trinamool Congress subscribes to a lot of left-wing political positions : "https://aitcofficial.org/party-constitution/#:~:text=To%20eradicate%20illiteracy%2C%20poverty%20and%20injustice%20and%20cause%20upliftment%20of%20the%20downtrodden%20by%20ensuring%20social%20equality%2C%20awakening%20of%20the%20masses%20by%20peaceful%20means%2C%20movement%20and%20participation%20in%20the%20lawful%20electoral%20process." antipoverty ("To eradicate poverty"), social justice ("To eradicate ..... and injustice"), social equality (explicitly mentioned), uplifting the downtrodden ("cause upliftment of the downtrodden"), mass awakening ("awakening the masses...."), these are clearly leftist political positions, not centrist.

2). She was a member of a left-wing party before forming her own : "https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mamata-Banerjee#:~:text=She%20became%20involved%20with%20politics%20while%20still%20in%20school%2C%20joining%20the%20Congress%20(I)%20Party%20(a%20breakaway%20faction%20formed%20by%20Indira%20Gandhi%20in%201978%2C%20it%20eventually%20replaced%20the%20original%20Indian%20National%20Congress)%20in%20West%20Bengal" this statement proves that Mamata was a member in Indira Gandhi's party. "https://www.britannica.com/biography/Indira-Gandhi#:~:text=She%20adhered%20to%20the%20quasi%2Dsocialist%20policies%20of%20industrial%20development%20begun%20by%20her%20father" this proves that Indira Gandhi was indeed socialist. If the leader was socialist, so was her party (considering that Indira Gandhi's party was leader-centric)

i rectified my mistake, this time I've all proofs taken from outside Wikipedia, now I expect changes to be made. lest it will be understood that Wikipedia tolerates misinformation and propaganda.

Kindly make the changes, if you're not scared to address the true facts that I presented. Bongthinker (talk) 13:40, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

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I want to appeal for an edit request once more, with my last request being ignored for some reason. I've found mistakes in the Wikipedia, and I request changes in them.

The mistakes are that - i. Socialism is not mentioned as an ideology (because TMC self-identifies as a socialist party), ii. Populism by itself is not a standalone ideology yet its mentioned as such (should've corrected it to "left-wing populism"), iii. TMC's political position is incorrectly mentioned as "Center" (it's a left-leaning party, center-left to left-wing).

Attaching proofs below

1). TMC self-identifies as socialist : "https://aitcofficial.org/party-constitution/" in this article, under the "Objective" section (Article II), point (b) mentions upholding and working for the furtherance of four principles, namely nationalism, *socialism*, secularism and democracy. This is not the Constitutional Formality that a political party has to adhere to, this is where a party is absolutely free to express its true objectives, and TMC here has expressed its desire to uphold and work for the furtherance of the principle of "socialism", so this is valid proof. If you can consider CPI(M)'s self-identification of "Marxist-Leninist" as valid, I expect the same here.

2). TMC is left-leaning : "https://aitcofficial.org/party-constitution/" in the same article (taken from AITC's party constitution), if we observe point (c), we can find TMC mentioning too many left-wing political positions. Antipoverty ("to eradicate ...., poverty"), social justice ("to eradicate .... injustice"), social equality (explicitly mentioned), upliftment of the downtrodden (also explicitly mentioned), mass awakening/mobilization ("awakening of the masses...."). these are left-wing political positions.

"https://www.vedantu.com/general-knowledge/left-and-right-wing-politics" in this given article, many of the mentioned left-wing political positions actually match with TMC's profile. Equality ("social equality" from AITC constitution), Freedom ("upholding and working for the furtherance of the principle of democracy"), Progress (Wikipedia mentions "Progressivism" as TMC's ideology), and Reform ("awakening of the masses" from AITC constitution)

In the same article, "https://www.vedantu.com/general-knowledge/left-and-right-wing-politics", it clearly mentions that left-wing members tend to be "communists, socialists, anarchists, social democrats, democratic socialists, progressives, social liberals and left-libertarians". TMC clearly falls into the "socialist" and "progressive" categories, yet this is clearly being ignored. Even if we consider "Wikipedia-approved ideologies", both social liberalism and progressivism are included, which should be considered, yet it's not

3). TMC is left-wing populist : "https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/left-wing-populism/" in this article, it clearly mentions that the rhetoric of left-wing populism contains themes like "social equality", "anti-capitalism", "pacifism" and "anti-globalization" with class society ideology or socialist theory being less relevant for left-wing populists, and we just discussed how TMC talks of "social equality". Other than this, TMC is also "anti-capitalist".

"https://indianhistorycollective.com/singur-nandigram-lalgarh-remade-mamata-banerjee/" in this article, it clearly mentions that Singur movement was an agitation in response to the handover of farmlands to the Tatas/Tata Motors (for industrial purposes obviously). It also clearly says that Nandigram movement was in response to the handover of 14000 acres of farmlands to Indonesia-based Salim Group of Industries (also for industrial purposes obviously). Both of these movements were led by the Trinamool Congress, this article attributes the success of Trinamool Congress to the "Singur-Nandigram-Lalgarh" movements. This is proof of TMC's anti-capitalism.

So there's both anti-capitalism and social equality combined with populist rhetoric, self-identification as an adherent of socialist ideology and commitment to various left-wing political positions.

I now request the changes to be made. If Wikipedia really thinks it's even minutely true, it should make the requested changes, lest Wikipedia's authenticity becomes questionable. Bongthinker (talk) 19:05, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.

Dear Bongthinker, please don’t treat the edit request process as a legal one. You do not have any inherent rights to be heard, and an edit request is not a legal judgment to be “appealed”. Certainly, if an edit request was not answered, you should not make the same request again expecting a different result. That will quickly be regarded with suspicion and people will be more likely to not read your request at all. I have not read the body of your request, mainly because it is far too long for me to review.

Edit requests are a way to allow people to point out simple mistakes that they do not have the technical permissions to fix. If the subject of the edit request is controversial, it cannot be an edit request. If the edit is not very specific, it is often difficult for the volunteers who respond to the edit request to understand. See Wikipedia:EDITXY. Consider that volunteers aren’t experts, certainly (usually) not on the specific subject of whichever request they are responding to.

I like to think of myself as a very reasonable person, so if you are willing to, tell me one (and only one for now) simple, specific and clearly necessary and uncontroversial change you think is needed, using the {{Text diff}} template, providing all the necessary sources in a way I can easily verify them (which in my case means it will also have to be an English source) I will take a look at it for you.

until then, do not make this request again and do not reopen it.

happy editing,

Slomo666 (talk) 13:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

alright, one simple and specific change to be done : {{change the mentioned political position of Trinamool Congress from this => "center" to this => "center-left to left-wing", look for proofs above. or let me attach those again.

1). TMC actually commits to numerous left-wing political positions : "https://aitcofficial.org/party-constitution/" here we can clearly see in Article II (c), that a lot of left-wing positions and values are mentioned, namely - antipoverty ("to eradicate .... poverty"), social justice ("to eradicate ...... injustice"), social equality (explicitly mentioned).

2). Proof that these are left-wing political positions : "https://www.vedantu.com/general-knowledge/left-and-right-wing-politics" here, under the heading "Important Ideologies of Left Wing Politics", we can see the identity tendencies of leftists. it says, that leftists tend to be "communists", "socialists", "anarchists", "social democrats", "democratic socialists", "progressives", "social liberals" and "left-libertarians". TMC ticks the socialist box (through self-identification), and also it ticks the boxes of progressive and social liberal (through externally-inferred ideological identity). even if we consider Progressive and Social Liberal, i think that is proof of TMC's leftism

3). Debunking the myth that INC is a centrist party : "https://www.vedantu.com/general-knowledge/left-and-right-wing-politics" the same article quotes that, "Some of the main examples of members and organizations that belong to the leftist group are the Indian National Congress, CPI, AAP, and many others.", therefore this means Congress is a left-wing party (which Trinamool Congress broke away from, though to be further specific, Trinamool broke away from Indian National Congress (Indira) which was a left-wing faction adhering to a socialist ideology and maintained a pro-Soviet sentiment during Cold War). since TMC's parent party itself is a leftist party, then I suppose Trinamool is also leftist itself (as the saying goes, "an apple doesn't fall far from the tree")

And apologies if I sounded as rude. It sometimes doesn't feel right when my state's political scenario and environment are lightly mislabeled like this, it doesn't sit well with me sometimes. It is never in my intention to be a bad individual.

If there's a problem in this, let me know....

}} Bongthinker (talk) 21:06, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Yes there is a problem and I will explain because I hope you will learn from this:

This is controversial. A "simple and uncontroversial change" is something like fixing a spelling mistake, a typo, or updating an outdated number.

Something related to Wikipedia:Infoboxes is almost always inherently controversial, because infoboxes are part of Wikipedia:Contentious topics.

Even if it weren’t, changing a political party’s political position/direction is also controversial in almost all cases. The cases where this isn’t the case, are where the community has already established a clear consensus on what to do with an article recently that touches on that topic. If that was changed later in violation of that consensus, then you could ask to enforce/reinstate the explicit consensus.

That is not the case here.

On top of this, you have not adequately sourced your edit. You ask me to assert that this party is of a certain political direction, by comparing its stated positions to a source’s definition of what constitutes left wing politics.

This would be called Wikipedia:Synth on here, and is strictly prohibited.

If we have to change something about the political position of a party, we would do this based on a consensus of reliable sources that state this is the political position of that party.

All in all, you are not only violating Wikipedia:EDITXY in the way you have made this request, but also asking me to violate core principles and guidelines of Wikipedia, which I (as the person making the edit) could get in trouble for.

I strongly urge you to read more about how Wikipedia:Edit requests work before making any edit requests on Wikipedia.

And just as a personal note: I think I was very clear in my earlier answer: your request is way too long. It is just not very nice to make me read several paragraphs of text justifying your requested edit.
I understand you feel strongly about this, and I empathise with you. It can be frustrating to see something you think is inaccurate on Wikipedia. I know this from experience.

unfortunately though, I will not be doing this edit. Your topic will remain on this page, (as answered) so it may still inspire someone to do more work on the article.

Happy editing,

Slomo666 (talk) 22:41, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

{{alright, no problem in that. at least you could edit "Populism" to "Left-wing Populism", cuz just saying Populism doesn't make sense, it got to be either left-wing populism (aka socialist populism) or right-wing populism (aka national populism). if that doesn't sit well with you, consider an alternative edit - the article vaguely mentions TMC as a "Congress breakaway" (and that is used to justify its centrist position), at least there you could go specific and say "Congress (Indira) breakaway", what makes this different is that Congress (Indira) faction was a left-wing faction led by a leftist leader named Indira Gandhi (same leader who nationalized 7 industries of India, abolished elitist systems like privy purses and brought India closer to Soviet Union than to the Western Bloc) which had a socialist ideology and a pro-Soviet sentiment, this will make people know that Trinamool is not a centrist party's breakaway, it's a leftist party's breakaway. that at least makes things clear to those who are smart enough. again, u may let me know if there is a problem even with this request. i wont open new edit requests, lets resolve the matter in this one only. thank u}} Bongthinker (talk) 09:04, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

thank you very much for writing up the true info about TMC, i liked it. appreciate that :) Bongthinker (talk) 21:42, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

The official name of the party has been changed from "Trinamool Congress" to "All India Trinamool Congress". The Wikipedia article page should reflect that. Kalpesh Manna 2002 (talk) 10:47, 21 March 2026 (UTC)