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I don't really do barnstar awards but I would like you to know that your efforts are appreciated. You are working in one of the more fraught topic areas and you are generally doing a very good job of it. We don't always agree and I am sure that will continue to be the case but it is all about attitude. And you have the right attitude in spades. Well done. - Sitush (talk) 01:28, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Sitush, Thanks so much for this message - it is very encouraging and I really appreciate it. But honestly, I wish I had your attitude, your command over English as well as your patience. I was reading your argument with someone here Talk:Raju#'Raju'_is_synonymous_with_'Kshatriya' and really admired how you approached it - your patience to go through every source and tolerating all the unnecessary name calling that he/she was engaging in. Frankly, I would not have been able to handle it so well. Also, hope you are doing and recovering well - you had mentioned a surgical procedure on your talk page some time back . Best Regards. - Acharya63 (talk) 03:22, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Kautilya3 , Thanks so much. Best Regards, Acharya63 (talk) 21:39, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

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Hi Acharya63, something wrong is happening on the page that you maintained integrity - Maharashtrian Brahmin

AR767 (talk) 16:40 Saturday, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi AR767, it would have been better if that page had been named "Marathi Brahmin" to indicate Marathi speaking Brahmins instead of Maharashtrian. Probably it should be renamed to Marathi Brahmin to avoid confusion? Not sure if the other editors would agree though. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. AR767 (talk) 7:38 Sunday, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Acharya, hope you are doing well. Just to know you Nana Patekar was not born in Maratha caste. He is from Bhandari community (caste) which comes under OBC category whereas Maratha caste comes under Open category here in Maharashtra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sainath468 (talk • contribs) 07:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sainath468, Please read his interview. He says he is maratha. Do you have another citation for his caste? Thansk Acharya63 (talk) 07:17, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, that doesn't mean he was born in Maratha family. Maratha in general means Mavala (warrior) of Shivaji. In Shivaji's army there were lot of other caste people (अठरा पगड जातीचे लोक) more than 96 kuli Maratha, everyone was called as Maratha. I haven't any proof from Nana Patekar to show you he belongs to Bhandari caste, but I have seen Balasaheb Thackeray's speech in Dasara melava where he mentioned about Bhandari caste and Nana Patekar. Morever I have seen Akhil Bhartiya Bhandari caste head meeting him in personal with their agenda. Again that is not a valid reference. I think Nana Patekar don't believe in caste system as well so better to not mention about his caste. Read this article- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Nana-Patekar-Remove-column-of-cast-and-religion-I-dont-believe-in-religion/articleshow/50947956.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sainath468 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

This website also mentions him as a maratha https://www.marathamatrimony.com/articles/trivia.php. Anyway, we can discuss on talk page. Could it be that Mr.Thackeray was referring to the help provided by Patekar to this community?

Yes Balasaheb Thackeray clearly mentioned about his community. Watch this interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfCnnRRVuPU Can you read following article if you know Marathi? Tarun Bharat is well known Marathi news paper. https://www.tarunbharat.com/news/578531 http://www.sarkarnama.in/marathi-political-news-bjp-konkan-nana-patekar-22821 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sainath468 (talk • contribs) 07:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

OK, it looks like he is a Bhandari. Not sure why he misrepresented his caste or maybe the interviewer misunderstood. In any case, we cannot add his caste now because those citations are not self identifications. We also need to remove him from List of Maratha people. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 08:11, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

An article you recently created, Uttaranarayana Anuvaka, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Hitro talk 15:10, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Sure, Thanks Hitro!-Acharya63 (talk) 03:33, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

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Dear Acharya63, Wish you a Happy and Productive New Year.I hope you are able to resume your editing activities.Regards.Jonathansammy (talk) 17:32, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Dear Jonathansammy, Sorry for responding so late. I logged in today after several weeks. Thank you for your wishes and Happy New Year to you as well. I had taken a break due to an operation and related health issues but will resume editing soon. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 04:53, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Dear Acharya63, Wish you a speedy recovery.Please take your time in resuming editing. All the best.Jonathansammy (talk) 17:32, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

I was looking for some small help.Recently I created a new article en:Kithaab i.e. hi:किताब (नाटक)-a play about women rights issues- which has been copy edited and is ready for translation & being translated in various languages like Tamil ta:கித்தாப் Telugu te:కితాబ్ (మలయాళ నాటకం).

Looking for your possible help in translating the article en:Kithaab hi:किताब (नाटक) to your language Wikipedia. If you are unable to spare time yourself then may be you like to refer the same to some other translator.

Thanking you , with warm regards Bookku (talk) 04:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Acharya63, why did you change the Brahmin percentage in Maratha MRRaja001 (talk) 09:47, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi MRRaja001 , I have not removed the value(10%) you added. I kept both values shown by both sources. In wikipedia, Christophe Jaffrelot is considered a very reliable source. I think what it means is that the population was initially low in Maharashtra but due to migration it is probably close to 10%. As per WP:RS, the academic source( by Vora and Jaffrelot) is considered much more superior to newspaper sources as we generally do not know the background of the person who wrote the newspaper article. Secondly, academic articles are peer reviewed whereas newspapers could be opinion pieces. Please see Reliable_sources#Some_types_of_sources for this discussion. Wikipedia generally relies on scholarly sources but newspaper sources are OK too. If you do not agree with the change, we can discuss here and use proper wording for the statements. I am OK if you want to change it to 10% although I have mentioned this number already on that page. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 10:11, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

But this reference is saying that in 1963 itself the population of Brahmins in Maharashtra is 8%. "The Brahmin who form about 8% of the population of Maharashtra" - (Book: Irawati Karmarkar Karve; Yashwant Bhaskar Damle, Group relations in village community, Deccan College Post-graduate and Research Institute, p. 9) . MRRaja001 (talk) 10:18, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

The difference is because of the years. I will update it to 10%. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 10:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Again Deccan College Post-Graduate and Research Institute, published a book in 2007 with the updates of population. (Book:Anthropology for archaeology: proceedings of the Professor Irawati Karve Birth Centenary Seminar. Deccan College Post-Graduate and Research Institute. 2007. p. 158. While comprising only 9% of the Maharashtrian population, the eight endogamous Brahmin castes studied by Karve and Malhotra). MRRaja001 (talk) 10:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you. I think that 4% is some old value. Hence I have updated the Maratha page to show that the modern value is 10%. Acharya63 (talk) 10:44, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Great! I'm glad we could figure this out. :) - MRRaja001 (talk) 10:46, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Are we talking about Maharashtrian brahmins being 10% of the state's population or the number also includes brahmins immigrant resident in Maharashtra? Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 13:52, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jonathansammy, the reference says about only Maharashtrian Brahmins, and doesn't include brahmins immigrant resident. MRRaja001 (talk) 18:09, 25 March 2019

Hi MRRaja001, does the reference explicitly say that Maharashtrian brahmin form 10% of the population of the state of Maharashtra or is it 10% of the Marathi speaking population of the state? Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 20:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jonathansammy, The quote is "While comprising only 9% of the Maharashtrian population, the eight endogamous Brahmin castes studied by Karve and Malhotra)". It does mean the Maharashtrian Brahmin population (not only Marathi). MRRaja001 (talk) 17:30, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi MRRaja001, I am confused. Maharashtrian brahmin is synonymous with Marathi brahmin and Maharashtrian is synonymous with Marathi people , and not all residents of the state of Maharashtra.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 18:41, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jonathansammy, "The eight endogamous Brahmin castes" means Deshastha (Rigvedi,Shukla Yajurvedi, Madhyandina, Kanva) Chitpavan, Karhade, Saraswat, Devrukhe Brahmins. Previously Rigvedi,Shukla Yajurvedi, Madhyandina, Kanva were all calculated separately and they used to maintain endogamy but now the intermarriages are quite common. So this does mean that the 9% Brahmins mentioned in the academic research book are Maharashtrian Brahmins. MRRaja001 (talk) 11:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

MRRaja001, 9% brahmin population of Maharashtra would mean about 12-13% of Maharashtrian brahmins in total Marathi speaking population.I have not come across any serious academic source which indicates the Maharashtrian brahmin population being that high.If you have a source then please include it in the article.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 13:53, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

MRRaja001 Let us continue this discussion on the talk page of the article rather than on User Acharya's talk page.I am copy /pasting the thread on the article page. Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 13:53, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Acharya63, can we create a page saying "List of Notable Maharashtrian Brahmins". MRRaja001 (talk) 03:14, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi MRRaja001 , we already have the lists under each Brahmin page - like Deshastha , Koknastha etc. Probably we can add a section to the Maharashtrian Brahmin page (instead of creating a new page) and point it to the other pages. My view is to avoid duplicating data if possible because it is hard to maintain multiple copies and one of them can quickly go out of sync. we already have a List_of_Brahmins#See_also and I recently added Chitpawan, Deshastha and Karhade to it. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 21:49, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah! you are right i agree with you.MRRaja001 (talk) 1:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)