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Happy editing! BootsED (talk) 19:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

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I take a very dim view of bias. Please review WP:UNDUE to understand my concerns regarding the article in question before coming here with passive aggressive reminders of good faith. Archon785 (talk) 20:00, 28 September 2025 (UTC)

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72.76.106.131 (talk) 15:56, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

Your editing history at Declaring a Crime Emergency in the District of Columbia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. That means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Instead of reverting edits, please stop editing the page and discuss on the talk page to create a version of the page that represents consensus among the editors involved. Wikipedia provides a page explaining how this is accomplished. If discussions reach an impasse, you can request help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution such as a Third opinion. In some cases, you may wish to request page protection while a discussion to resolve the dispute is ongoing.

If you continue edit warring, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia—especially if you break the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, or whether it involves the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also, please keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule— if it looks like you intend to continue reverting. - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:53, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Your point is certainly taken, and I do not intend to violate the 3RR rule, but what can I do when my post on the talk page goes unaddressed, and my edit is reverted over "MOS" with no attempt by the other party to address the specific MOS issue? Archon785 (talk) 20:24, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

I replied on the article's talk page, and I believe it answers your question here. - Adolphus79 (talk) 21:40, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Not mentioned in the other post, but... if you and another user disagree, and you have tried to discuss it with them on the article's talk page and their own talk page, but they are refusing to discuss it with you, then that would be the time to file a report at one of the noticeboards (whichever applies to the situation). - Adolphus79 (talk) 21:50, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war, according to the reverts you've made to Bathroom bill. This means that you are repeatedly reverting content back to how you think it should be, despite knowing that other editors disagree. Once it is known that there is a disagreement, users are expected to collaborate with others, avoid editing disruptively, and try to reach a consensus – rather than repeatedly reverting the changes made by other users.

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1. Edit warring is disruptive behavior – regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not engage in edit warring – even if you believe that you are right.

You need to discuss the disagreement on the article's talk page and work towards a revision that represents consensus among everyone involved. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution if discussions reach an impasse. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to engage in edit warring, you may be blocked from editing. Grayfell (talk) 23:23, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

I am most certainly not in an edit war. I am forming consensus by correcting errors that people have pointed out in my edits. A source was unreliable so I replaced it with one that was. A summary was inaccurate so I replaced it with one that was accurate. Please more closely review my edit activity before you make unfounded accusations about my activities. Archon785 (talk) 23:40, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Per WP:EW An editor who repeatedly restores their preferred version is edit warring, regardless of whether those edits are justifiable. Claiming "My edits were right, so it wasn't edit warring" is not a valid defense.

Since you were already at WP:3RR, this comment was a genuine warning. If you had continued to restore this content, the next stop would've been Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, and your edit summaries would not have mattered very much. Grayfell (talk) 00:26, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Please do put it on the Administrators' noticeboard. My edits were fundamentally different, and responsive (and reconciliatory) to the issues of other editors. It's unfortunate you do not comprehend this. I reject your warning as being entirely founded on a false premise, fed by your apparent animosity towards me which has inhibited your ability to critically analyze the edits I made. Archon785 (talk) 01:07, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

WP:3RR doesn't care what your bias is, it doesn't care if your edits were "right" or not, that policy is in place to make it fair for everyone. Remember when I told you that if you have a problem with someone you needed to discuss it and/or report it instead of edit warring? - Adolphus79 (talk) 15:10, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Buddy you really need to inform yourself of the details of this situation before you comment. These were not reverts, I don't care if the site says they were or not. I may have hit that "Undo" button in order to start the edit in order to restore the material, but then I edited it in order to respond to the concern brought up. You know that Wikipedia lets you compare the difference between versions of a page, so you can tell if there have been actual differences made, instead of just a regular revert. So I post a source saying something. Then someone reverts it, saying the source is not reliable. Fine, no problem. I then restore the content however I change it at the same time to add a reliable source now. Part of @Grayfell's problem is they did not understand WP:RS and that local Fox affiliates are not part of WP:FOXNEWS, so hopefully you've also posted on their talk page too educating them on that policy. Does my edit count as a revert for WP:3RR? It shouldn't, because it's not any kind of an edit war, rather I am responding to the specific criticism I received and correcting it. Only someone who takes the most superficial glance at the edit would say it's a revert, as opposed to me correcting the specific criticism that was made. Then you have people like Grayfell who don't understand WP:RS who think it's an inaccurate edit summary (that I've corrected the error by posting a reliable source) and reverting my correction and accusing me of edit warring and bias.

This is really a bit of a messy situation here where you really, really need to tell Grayfell to stop harassing me and learn how to properly review both WP:RS and how to tell the difference between different versions of a page prior to jumping to conclusions that just because someone started their edit with clicking the Undo button, doesn't mean it remains a revert as long as there are reconciliatory changes that are part of that edit. Archon785 (talk) 17:15, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

OK, I looked just now, and I see you trying to add the same statement (or slightly altered) 3 times (including using unreliable sources and breaking WP:SYNTH in the process), each edit disputed for a different reason, with zero attempts by you at discussion in between. That is textbook edit warring. After our discussion last time, it was made very clear to you (and you agreed) that if an edit is disputed, the correct thing to do is discuss it on the talk page, not edit war. You were also warned for breaking SYNTH in that edit war. I see no differences between your actions then and now, trying to force your changes when they are disputed, with no attempts to discuss the dispute between edits (and once again synthesizing your own facts, which is also a big no-no). - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:37, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

I don't understand why there is such a disconnect here. I posted a statement which used a source. That was reverted on the reason that the source was unreliable. What exactly is there to discuss? The reason for the revert was clear. Thus, if I readd the material using a reliable source then it's fine, it completely addressed the reason for the revert. And yes Fox 11 is a reliable source, per WP:NEWSORG. That edit was then reverted due to being "article does not say that the trans student instigated the fight, nor that she was expelled." I then readded the material and removed both of those parts. Once again, I ask you what's there to discuss? I acquiesced completely to the reason for the revert.

You seem to want me to discuss something that requires no discussion, because I made the exact change requested. You also seem to want me to somehow read people's minds, that somehow they are disputing the essence of the addition even though they are communicating specific aspects of it they dislike. If I correct those aspects, it's not edit warring, it's building consensus by adding material that nobody should have a dispute with.

Please be far more specific with any criticism of my actions, because the broad strokes you're attempting to paint me with do not hold up given an actual examination of the events. Archon785 (talk) 19:55, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Just to be clear the "actual examination" shows you trying to add (basically) the same content 3 times. The first two of those times also breaking WP:SYNTH by making up your own facts. Rules is rules. If not for the edit war, assume this to be your final warning for blatantly breaking SYNTH. - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:59, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Yeah the "basically" meaning the same content, after having corrected the issues that other editors had. If they wanted the content removed entirely they should have said so, instead of pointing out specific issues which I then corrected. I question whether you are actually reading this, because it's not a complex concept. Also please be more specific about how I violated WP:SYNTH. Archon785 (talk) 20:02, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

When you make a statement that is not included in the source, which another user reverted your edit for that exact reason, that is a violation of WP:SYNTH. - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:05, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

The source had claims within that the student instigated the fight by spitting, and that they were no longer attending the school. I understand it wasn't sufficient proof to say they "started the fight" and were "expelled" which is why I readded it while not including those two parts. I did not violate WP:SYNTH at all. Additionally, because the material was readded without the objectionable content, it wasn't a revert and WP:3RR has no application here. Archon785 (talk) 20:10, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

Just because you made another edit not including the synthesized statement, does not mean the first edit including the synthesized content did not violate WP:SYNTH. Imagine that, "I didn't break the rule with my first edit because I made a second edit that didn't break the rule". - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:16, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

The statement was not synthesized. Watch the video for the source - https://www.foxla.com/news/california-high-school-brawl-involving-transgender-student-draws-behavioral-safety-concerns. Right at the 14 second mark, "fight started allegedly by the transgender student." And from the source, "Since the incident occurred, District staff has been working to ensure the safety and rights of all students are considered and promptly responded to. We are able to verify that the student involved will no longer be attending King High School."

I understand this does not meet the high standards of inclusion in the article for the student having started the fight and being expelled, which is why I agreed to remove it. But it's not WP:SYNTH as I did not make up any facts. Archon785 (talk) 20:22, 15 November 2025 (UTC)

(←) Did the source you cited specifically say the school "expelled the transgender student for instigating the fight"? Or did you synthesize that fact? There is no "I understand that's not what the source said, but it's not SYNTH", imply[ing] a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources is the exact definition of SYNTH. I am done trying to discuss this with you any further, you're clearly just trying to argue your way out of following the rules here. Quit edit warring, quit synthesizing facts. - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:34, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Refer this to an actual administrator if you must, I'm tired of listening to your bad faith accusations which I have repeatedly disproven. Stop with the false accusations of edit warring, and stop with the lies about me synthesizing information that is actually present in the article, even if it's not clearly elucidated enough for you. Archon785 (talk) 00:41, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

What bad faith accusations? Did the source say she was "expelled for instigating the fight" or didn't it? It's a simple yes or no question, no grey area to argue about. - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:49, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

In the nicest way possible, what is your problem? You are talking about one edit, and when someone didn't like how it was worded, I changed it (so not sure where the edit warring comes in). You're on some huge crusade about one edit, where you can very clearly see why I summarized it as such.

If you watch the video as well as read the article, several people said the trans student was starting fights, out of concern for safety the school confirmed the trans student will no longer attend the school, and the reporter speculates that this may not be enough to satisfy the parents of the other students. What other conclusion could be drawn other than expulsion? The student just willingly withdrew from the school?

I don't know, maybe you're just pedantic, but this insane crusade over one edit where there is clear reasoning for why I said it, and changed it when someone didn't like it, is unbecoming. I have to insist you stop with this harassment crusade. Either report me to some administrator noticeboard or else quit posting your lies and accusations. Archon785 (talk) 01:02, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Excuse me, but please do not make personal attacks about me. When did I lie? Where have I shown bad faith? We have rules and policies here for a reason, if you do not feel the need to follow them, you are welcome to go elsewhere. The fact of the matter is that you added synthesized content, your edit did not match what the cited source said. Instead of arguing about it, maybe just say "sorry, it won't happen again" and move on. The fact that you want to argue about it and split hairs "I didn't break the rule cuz I made another edit", or "it wasn't technically an edit war because I made minor changes (that violated policy) in between my three edits", or "it doesn't matter if I violated the policy because it was reverted", that is not how rules work. You violated the rule when you made the edit with synthesized content, bottom line. Either you respect the rules, or you will no longer be allowed to edit. Call it pedantic, call it whatever you want, but we call it Policies and Guidelines. I was only trying to give you a warning to stop violating the rules, if you want to self-report your violations to one of the noticeboards though, feel free. - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:03, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Take your attention elsewhere and stop obsessing over my activities. Make a report to the admins if you are inclined but your input directed toward me is no longer welcome. Archon785 (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Noted. Your violating our rules is no longer welcome either. - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:16, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

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Happy editing! Cinaroot (talk) 01:37, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

My edit was not related to the Arab-Israel conflict. If you disagree, tell an administrator, but don't come here with inaccurate passive aggressive notices. Archon785 (talk) 01:54, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

No need to involve an admin. This is just a warning. Your edit relates to the topic.

I also recommend reviewing WP:CIV Cinaroot (talk) 02:05, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Your warning is rejected. You don't know what you're talking about. From the talk page of the article, emphasis added by me:

Stop: Parts of this page are restricted

Parts of this article are related to the Arab–Israeli conflict, which is subject to the extended-confirmed restriction.

Parts. Not all. Parts. Archon785 (talk) 02:06, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Your edit relates to Benjamin Netanyahu and International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli leaders is subject to WP:ECR restrictions.

If you keep discussing this on Talk:Zohran Mamdani/Archive 5#Legal response to arrest threat, and violate policies, i will take you to admin. Cinaroot (talk) 02:14, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Buddy it also applies to Vladimir Putin and the International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Russian leaders, and my edit is about the US relationship with the ICC. Go ahead and take me to admin, take your threats and "warnings" elsewhere. Archon785 (talk) 02:16, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

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Can an admin warn the OP? Their edit was reverted three times.

They keep violating WP:ECR - See Talk:Zohran Mamdani/Archive 5#Legal response to arrest threat, Cinaroot (talk) 02:27, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

First revert was irrelevant because @Cinaroot did not give a reason. More importantly, it was not a WP:ECR violation because the edit was about how legal experts have said an American mayor cannot arrest a foreign head of state. One of the subjects that Mamdani had "promised" to arrest was Vladimir Putin, who is not subject to any Arab-Israel conflict restriction. This is just an attempt to keep any material critical of Mamdani's ridiculous political statements off his page. I urge administrators to inform Cinaroot that if parts of an article fall under ECR, that doesn't mean the entire article does, and a good faith, sourced edit that has nothing to do with the Arab-Israel conflict cannot just be automatically reverted, otherwise why isn't the entire page under ECR? Archon785 (talk) 02:32, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Archon785 and @Cinaroot, knock it off. Just drop the stick and walk away this is not a good use of any of our time. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:20, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Dr vulpes they opened another thread here, after being told by two editors not to make further edits. This is disruptive editing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zohran_Mamdani#Legal_response_to_arrest_threat_Part_2 Cinaroot (talk) 05:00, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Were you not just told to drop the stick? First, I cannot be "told" by two editors to stop as you have no authority over me. Second, and most importantly, even if the entire Mamdani article falls under WP:ECR, I'm still entitled to make an edit request, which I have. I really have to insist you stop harassing me. Archon785 (talk) 05:04, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Alright - that didn't look like an edit request - since you refused to acknowledge WP:ECR

If you edit main article on that issue or be disruptive in talk page - you will find yourself in admin noticeboard.

Stick dropped. Bye Cinaroot (talk) 05:39, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Please stop posting your meaningless threats on my talk page. Either report me to the noticeboard or don't, but I do not welcome your incivility, and I no longer want to hear anything from you regarding your interpretation of the rules as you have no authority over me. Archon785 (talk) 05:42, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Then take it to the noticeboard @Cinaroot. Dr vulpes (Talk) 05:06, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Done. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Archon785’s-_disruptive_patterns,_disregard_for_rules,_and_an_unnecessarily_aggressive_tone_that_approaches_personal_attacks. Cinaroot (talk) 14:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Cinaroot (talk) 14:06, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

FIY This has been moved to here Blue Sonnet (talk) 15:13, 18 November 2025 (UTC)