User talk:Firefangledfeathers
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Wikipedia suggested me to ask you questions about editing, so yeah - here it goes...
My name is User:Thenascarsonicblueyfan and I have a question about citing, I'm good at it, and because of that I knew what citing was before all of my other friends did! But anyways, how do I put the name of the source before citing the website, and can I use an MLA text citator?
Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk • contribs) 18:55, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan. You can read more about our citation practices at Wikipedia:Citing sources. If you're creating a new article, you are welcome to use any consistent style, including MLA. If you're editing an existing article that has an established style, we ask that you match that style. Most articles on Wikipedia use Citation Style 1. For example, if you're citing a website, we commonly use Template:Cite web, which I see you've used at least once. We generally prefer not to use citations that are just a url. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 12:48, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I found out that the failed 2024 revival of the AFL had divisional alingnments, but I, I did find photos of divisional alignment schedules on Reddit through Google Search though, but I'm not sure, would you think it would be a good idea for me to edit it, and source the Reddit photos to take extra measure? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 18:44, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Because reddit is user-generated content, it's generally not reliable for factual claims. I wouldn't recommend leaning on reddit photos as a source. Maybe the failed league had divisions on its website, and maybe that was archived? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:14, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- I edited the National Arena League and put citations on former teams, other than it being bare, are the sources good? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 16:25, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi again, Thenascarsonicblueyfan. Looks like you may have included typos in the official NAL site urls. You'll see here that another editor followed up your edits with some style fixes; see MOS:REFSPACE for guidance on this. We generally prefer not to cite the New York Post, which has a poor reputation for reliability. You can see more at WP:NYPOST. Wikipedia:Bare URLs#Helping to prevent future link rot has links to some semi-automated tools that can help expand bare urls. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:53, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- I made a draft requesting a Wikipedia article about American ice football, can you help me find some sources to make this a more accurate page? Or is it fine for now? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 13:22, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Mr. Firefangledfeathers, I am making a draft about the American Arena League 2, and because the AAL isn't taken over by the AAL2, could the AAL2 be it's own artivle. Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 15:11, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan. This is a bit out of my league (haha), but maybe consider the points raised at Talk:American Arena League#Proposed split. If the situation has changed since that discussion (from last year), maybe ping the old participants and see what they think now? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:46, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I found out there is a new arena football league in existance for 2026 called the International Arena League with eight teams confirmed. But, the only things I could find for it are a Instagram post about the league. And this looks like a good Wikipedia article, what are your thoughts on this. (Source: arenafootball.coverage [Instagram], and ialfootball.com Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 14:27, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan. If the only available sources are social media and the league itself, that topic is probably not ready for a standalone article. Maybe there's more out there? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:58, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- There is. Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 14:02, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- I made the draft article here, User:Thenascarsonicblueyfan/sandbox, can it be an article? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 14:57, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan. Looks like you only cited the leagues insta page. Are there stronger, secondary sources available? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:00, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- I could only find stuff on the league website, and OFFICAL instagram posts from arenafootball.coverage (so probably not), but is it strong enough to be an article with improvement given. Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 16:23, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Probably not! See WP:GNG for the general standard. You need multiple independent, secondary sources. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:35, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, where is the Cebuano wiki? Oklahoma9767526722 (talk) 21:15, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Oklahoma9767526722: see https://ceb.wikipedia.org Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:18, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Oklahoma9767526722 (talk) 17:23, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Oklahoma9767526722: see https://ceb.wikipedia.org Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:18, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, where is the Cebuano wiki? Oklahoma9767526722 (talk) 21:15, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- Probably not! See WP:GNG for the general standard. You need multiple independent, secondary sources. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:35, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- I could only find stuff on the league website, and OFFICAL instagram posts from arenafootball.coverage (so probably not), but is it strong enough to be an article with improvement given. Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 16:23, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan. Looks like you only cited the leagues insta page. Are there stronger, secondary sources available? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:00, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- I made the draft article here, User:Thenascarsonicblueyfan/sandbox, can it be an article? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 14:57, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- There is. Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 14:02, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan. If the only available sources are social media and the league itself, that topic is probably not ready for a standalone article. Maybe there's more out there? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:58, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I found out there is a new arena football league in existance for 2026 called the International Arena League with eight teams confirmed. But, the only things I could find for it are a Instagram post about the league. And this looks like a good Wikipedia article, what are your thoughts on this. (Source: arenafootball.coverage [Instagram], and ialfootball.com Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 14:27, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan. This is a bit out of my league (haha), but maybe consider the points raised at Talk:American Arena League#Proposed split. If the situation has changed since that discussion (from last year), maybe ping the old participants and see what they think now? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:46, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Mr. Firefangledfeathers, I am making a draft about the American Arena League 2, and because the AAL isn't taken over by the AAL2, could the AAL2 be it's own artivle. Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 15:11, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- I made a draft requesting a Wikipedia article about American ice football, can you help me find some sources to make this a more accurate page? Or is it fine for now? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 13:22, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi again, Thenascarsonicblueyfan. Looks like you may have included typos in the official NAL site urls. You'll see here that another editor followed up your edits with some style fixes; see MOS:REFSPACE for guidance on this. We generally prefer not to cite the New York Post, which has a poor reputation for reliability. You can see more at WP:NYPOST. Wikipedia:Bare URLs#Helping to prevent future link rot has links to some semi-automated tools that can help expand bare urls. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:53, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- I edited the National Arena League and put citations on former teams, other than it being bare, are the sources good? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 16:25, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Because reddit is user-generated content, it's generally not reliable for factual claims. I wouldn't recommend leaning on reddit photos as a source. Maybe the failed league had divisions on its website, and maybe that was archived? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:14, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I found out that the failed 2024 revival of the AFL had divisional alingnments, but I, I did find photos of divisional alignment schedules on Reddit through Google Search though, but I'm not sure, would you think it would be a good idea for me to edit it, and source the Reddit photos to take extra measure? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 18:44, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
TNSBF
Mr.Firefangledfeathers, I think we should move the Hidalgo La Fiera (under it's Rio Grande Valley Flash) page and move it to the Monterrey Flash page (they have the same history) Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 19:20, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan! What you're talking about is a "merge", and the process is described at WP:MERGE. If you're sure the best way to present all the info is in one article, I'd follow the steps listed there. If it's an obvious case (I'm not sure it is), you could be bold and merge the articles yourself. If there's likely going to be any disagreement, you'd start a merge discussion to pull in others' opinions. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:15, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- Mr.Firefangeledfeathers, I think I've looked at the sources correctly and saw that the National Gridiron League might not even be a league, I KNOW that the article says it, but another thing I saw was that the league website is not avaliable, should I edit the article? Also, I'm about to work on the merge we talked about a while ago.
- Thanks,
- Anonymous
- (Be free to check my fantasy soccer league website and wiki here) (And my research website)
- https://sites.google.com/students.garlandisd.net/americanindoorsoccerassocation
- https://aisasoccerwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
- https://sites.google.com/students.garlandisd.net/lost-singers-wiki/articles
- https://lostorforgottonartistswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 18:11, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Thenascarsonicblueyfan! Just Firefangledfeathers, or FFF, please. No Mr!
- The league's actual existence is uncertain. If you can find a source that comments on that, please do add it. Removing the defunct website is a good idea. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:59, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- FFF, I need some tips for the fake Indoor soccer league I created, any tips on the website, and how I can improve my Miraheze, and my soundtrack better? My "league" starts in March, the links are below, and here is the soundtrack.
- https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5fWZxh2lX1QCU5C1J2RXSU
- Oh, and I need tips for my music wiki!
- https://lostorforgottonartistswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 13:12, 6 January 2026 (UTC)
- Have you seen my message yet? Thenascarsonicblueyfan (talk) 19:46, 4 February 2026 (UTC)
About the Bengal Files sanction - request to withdraw
Hi,
My edit shows both sides of it.
"Some critics said it showed the truth/ proper history while some claimed it distorted it."
I'm not sure how this would be edit warring, if both sides are represented with WP: RS sources.
As you yourself noted, I did make an entry in the Talk page after the lock. But please note there was no response to that after 3 days.
Also if you check the talk page, prior to that I had given lots of arguments and supporting evidence and wiki policy. in fact, majority of the talk page topics were started by me.
I'm not sure if I should go on repeating the same arguments over and over again in the talk page?
Also can you please clarify if this sanction prevents from putting anything in the talk page?
Regards
Computeracct Computeracct (talk) 18:50, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Your edit directly undid changes to parts of the article that were obviously in dispute. Changes that were part of the dispute that led to the page protection. If local discussion is not producing consensus, the next step is dispute resolution, not edit warring. No you should not repeat the same arguments repeatedly. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:53, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- I hear you and get what you are saying, but please do consider of all this ->
- I had already raised for dispute resolution on 8th September, but it was closed with a false allegation which I clearly denied, but still made it to the note.(and another factor - which no one warned me about before closing the dispute resolution)
- Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#c-Robert McClenon-20250908235400-The Bengal Files 2
- its very disillusioning when you attempt to do the right thing and you get closed and blocked at every step.
- 2. The "falsely" claimed part did not have any citations at all. If you go and click on [b] that is a set of miscellaneous articles about the film and there is zero citation there to anyone calling the claim as false. So I don't think there should be a problem in removing that word false as there is no citation.
- 3. The propaganda film part had citations from The Hindu and The Indian Express, but obviously as I had shown in my talk page, there were articles calling it the truth/realistic portrayal of history. No one replied or contradicted to my point in the talk page for nearly 3 days.
- So I removed the propaganda part and moved it to the last line -> "while some claimed it distorted it" with the same references.(The Hindu and The Indian Express). So its not like I am removing the opposing views. I am just putting it in Wiki as per WP: NPOV, WP: RS and WP: Balanace.
- 4. Can you please clarify if this sanction prevents from putting anything in the talk page of the article?
- Regards
- ComputerAcct Computeracct (talk) 19:06, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- For 2 and 3, those words are wasted here. Pursue those content disputes at the article talk page or some other dispute resolution forum. For 4: you are welcome to continue posting at the talk page. For 1: the DRN moderator said it would be ok to file again while including only parties who are extended confirmed. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:09, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, the moderator did mention that, but he still left the false accusation on the summary page which means if I request again, it could very well come up, again.
- I had put an appeal on his page requesting him to modify the summary: User talk:Robert McClenon/Archive 54#Regarding your message while closing The Bengal Files. But I did not get a response from him.
- I will put about point number 2. on the talk page
- I had already mentioned point #3 on the talk page. No one responded for 3 days.
- Thanks for clarifying on point #4 Computeracct
- For 2 and 3, those words are wasted here. Pursue those content disputes at the article talk page or some other dispute resolution forum. For 4: you are welcome to continue posting at the talk page. For 1: the DRN moderator said it would be ok to file again while including only parties who are extended confirmed. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:09, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- I hear you and get what you are saying, but please do consider of all this ->
- As you can see, I have made a lot of attempts to resolve, but kept getting shut almost every place. Therefore I request you to reconsider and withdraw the sanction. I assure you, I won't make any more changes in the disputed section and I will either bring it up in the DRN or on the talk page in a different way.
(talk) 19:37, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Firefangledfeathers:
- I have started a new topic in the talk page in a different way to attempt to get consensus: Talk:The Bengal Files#Whether the movie distorts history or not
- As you can see no one else from the opposing side has done so for these contentious issues.
- I request you to reconsider and withdraw the sanction. Computeracct (talk) 19:13, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for discussing at the talk page. I am not going to withdraw the warning. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:26, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ok. Then can you please confirm what the word sanction means in this context (The Bengal Files wiki page)
- Does it mean if I edit the page in areas pertaining to the disputed stuff before getting a consensus, I will be banned from editing the page?
- But I can add to or edit any non-disputed stuff wrt the article? Computeracct (talk) 19:45, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- If you tell me which sanction you're referring to, I can give you more specific info. In general you should not edit disputed material until there's consensus. I can't say in advance what would happen if you did. Yes, you are welcome to edit non-disputed parts of the article. If you are reverted, you'll need to gain consensus for those changes before restoring them. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:02, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi,
- I am referring to this:
- User talk:Computeracct#Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction Computeracct (talk) 06:30, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- The sanction there is a warning. As long as you're careful about edit warring, you'll be fine. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 11:22, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you for the clarification. Computeracct (talk) 11:25, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- The sanction there is a warning. As long as you're careful about edit warring, you'll be fine. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 11:22, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- If you tell me which sanction you're referring to, I can give you more specific info. In general you should not edit disputed material until there's consensus. I can't say in advance what would happen if you did. Yes, you are welcome to edit non-disputed parts of the article. If you are reverted, you'll need to gain consensus for those changes before restoring them. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:02, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for discussing at the talk page. I am not going to withdraw the warning. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:26, 12 September 2025 (UTC)




