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Please help me with... Help improving draft article on Fr James Higgins SMA, MFR

Hi! I’ve created a draft article about Fr James Higgins, a Catholic missionary priest from Ireland who served in Nigeria for over 60 years. He was awarded the Member of the Order of the Federal Republic (MFR) by the Nigerian government and also received a papal honour. Furthermore he authored two published books as well as featuring in other historical books. He has been reported as the longest-serving Irish missionary in Nigeria.

The draft was declined due to insufficient independent sources. I’ve included references from SMA, oral histories, and obituary notices, but would like help:

How can I strengthen the article with more reliable, independent sources?

Would adding awards (like the MFR) require a government source, and where could I find this?

What tags or templates can I use to help reviewers understand this is a historically significant religious figure?

Here’s the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ForayHistory/sandbox

Thanks so much for any advice! ForayHistory (talk) 02:04, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi there! You can strengthen the article by adding more reliable, independent sources. Adding awards does not require a government source - an independent published reliable source can be used. You don't use tags or templates to help reviewers - you use independent published reliable sources. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:02, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi ForayHistory! I noticed that you recently made an edit at Goffs Academy and marked it as "minor", but it may not have been. "Minor edit" has a specific definition on Wikipedia: it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Thank you. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 09:20, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

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I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Hipal (talk) 15:55, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice- I'm looking forward to becoming more familiar with wiki policies. ForayHistory (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

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Note that section headings should be in Sentence case - eg "Environmental impact" not "Environmental Impact". You mentioned FA compliance ... this is very basic MOS. PamD 07:42, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Well noted, thanks for your support. ForayHistory (talk) 08:14, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

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Your sandbox may be written in promotional tone, and might need speedy deletion. CreatorTheWikipedian2009 (talk) 15:18, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

On the Irish Catholics page you introduced a ref 'guardian2018' but never used it which is causing an error, can you fix that? skarz (talk) 14:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi. If you are using ChatGPT or some other LLM to create content in articles, perhaps consider whether the:

• largely "empty" editorial, created by those types of tools, is consistent with Wikipedia's WP:NPOV and MOS:EDITORIAL guidelines. I point this out because much of the content you have recently added to articles contains empty and unsupported (and frankly bizarre) editorial about how church services in a church in England, delivered in "modern English", somehow "emphasises accessibility"? Yes, if the church services were delivered in Japanese or Ancient Greek, then - sure - they wouldn't be particularly accessible. But why are we even stating this? Similarly, how does the existence of a wall "enhance the site's historical significance"?
• sources identified by an LLM is correct and actually supports the text it is placed alongside. And is not some kind of AI hallucination. As with the editorial flourishes noted above, for example, many of the sources added to the Ponsbourne St Mary's Church article do not support the text they are placed alongside.

If you are not using LLMs to generate content (and this editorial and these sources were added by you directly), then please pay more attention to related guidelines. Guliolopez (talk) 11:46, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi. Because of the multiple issues in several new articles that you recently created (including references failing verification, references which do not even mention the subject being added to articles, discursive editorial based on the "comment sections" on linked webpages, etc), I had a quick look at some other content you recently added to existing articles. These additions also contain multiple issues.

As an example, in this series of edits, you added text about how the "[Burke] controversy highlighted broader issues of accountability within the Catholic Church in Nigeria and Ireland" and how "His case continues to be referenced in discussions about clerical accountability and the Church's response to abuse allegations". To support this editorial, you added a reference to this webpage on vanguardngr.com. This webpage DOES NOT MENTION Burke. Or anything to do with him or the "case" in question. It is an opinion piece (a WP:NEWSOPED) about Pope Benedict XVI's appointment of Peter Ebere Okpaleke as the bishop of Ahiara Diocese. And how some within the diocese, including from the Mbaise community, rejected the appointment. It makes a short mention of a former (deceased) Bishop of Warri Diocese (who died 30 years before Burke held the same role). But makes ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF BURKE.

If this complete misread and misrepresentation of this source (a form of fictitious reference) is not the result of a "hallucination" by an LLM that you were using, how do you account for it? If it is the result of an AI hallucination (one of many that seem to have occurred recently), can you please consider NOT using LLMs in the manner that you have. And, perhaps, reading the related guidance on when LLM-generated content is (and is not) appropriate.

Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 14:21, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have had to remove some of these contributions entirely. Many of them included a significant number of references that did not actually match the claims in the article. For example, in Irish Catholics, I sampled a few:

• the section on Australia cited census data to say there were 7.2m Irish Catholics and that St Patrick's was a major event; the cited source gives a figure of 2.4m people of Irish ancestry (no religion data) or 2.2m Catholics with any NW European ancestry, and says nothing about St Patrick's;
• the mention of Biden and Kennedy as evidence of "eventual acceptance" was sourced to an article about Lincoln that does not cover anything after 1919

In Superstition in Great Britain:

• "Clava Cairns, ancient burial stones, are said to have magical energy" was cited to a newspaper article that does not mention either Clava or cairns
• Hutton's "Rise and Fall of Merry England: The Ritual Year" is cited three times, in support of bell-ringing for storms (p60), demonic superstitions (pp59–62), and bells to ward off spirits (p61). These pages are all about midsummer customs and nothing about bells or demons.

The significant number of ISBN issues mentioned on the talkpage for that article are also indicative of an LLM generating a plausible sounding citation without that work having been consulted in any way. I have tagged (I think) all the articles you added significant amounts to and I will see if further removals are needed.

I appreciate you mean well and these contributions were made in good faith, but they simply aren't useful to Wikipedia - these tools are not capable of writing high-quality well-referenced text, and it just means more volunteer time to review and validate them. Please, please, think very carefully before making LLM-based contributions in future, and make sure you have actually consulted and checked the sources you are citing. Andrew Gray (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions to St Mary the Virgin, Cheshunt. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it consists of machine-generated text and many of the sources do not verify the text they are placed alongside . I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Guliolopez (talk) 12:14, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions to Ponsbourne St Mary's Church. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it consists of machine-generated text and many of the references do not support the text they are placed alongside . I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Guliolopez (talk) 12:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

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Guliolopez (talk) 15:50, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject AI Cleanup/Noticeboard regarding an AI cleanup investigation which may be related to you. The thread is ForayHistory. EvenTwist41 (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2025 (UTC)