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Happy editing! Peaceray (talk) 14:05, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

The article Sharon Meieran has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Her position as county commissioner on a county is not inherently notable per WP:NPOL, no significant coverage about her, she didn't pass the notability bar. Thank you.

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 15:27, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

It's ridiculous to delete her or any of the county commissioners. We're here for information no? It's very bad for historical documentation when we do that. Sharon, Pederson etc. Should stay. GrandPeople44 (talk) 14:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Jamedeus. Question: What program do you use to do the ref saving/archiving? I see your gnomish work about, and would like that ability for certain articles I come across. Please, let me know. Thanks and Regards, GenQuest ^"scribble" 07:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey GenQuest, it's called InternetArchiveBot . I actually found it the same way after seeing another editor use it. Just a heads up: the interface is a bit finicky and sometimes freezes, but it still finishes in the background without submitting the link again. Enjoy! Jamedeus (talk) 07:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

@GenQuest: Please note that mass additions with InternetArchiveBot are controversial, see Wikipedia_talk:Link_rot#Mass_additions_of_archive_links_for_live_sites. —Dexxor (talk) 14:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Dexxor; Noted. Thanks, Jamedeus. GenQuest ^"scribble" 15:02, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Interesting, I wasn't aware Wikipedia automatically archives new links. Thanks for posting this. Jamedeus (talk) 18:49, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

This edit of yours makes no sense at all. I did the edits that you reverted.:

You found <math>\Theta(n_1 + \cdots + n_K)</math> to <math>\Theta(n_1</math>·...·<math>n_K)</math>. How does that make any sense? The system of math notation used here is deliberately designed to be in most respects the same as LaTeX, which is obviously supposed to accomodate the sort of notation used in this expression, yet whoever put that latter expression there left math mode and put in an ellipsis that is not in math mode. That is very far from proper usage.

In several instances, you changed \cdots to ..., whose effect in LaTeX would be to prevent proper spacing between dots and prevent proper centering.

There are good reasons why \sum rather than \Sigma is used.

I have reverted your reversion.

Someone with as little understanding of LaTeX as you appear to have should probably leave that to others. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:06, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for notifying me - this was a major screw up on my part that I wouldn't have caught otherwise.

I don't pretend to understand latex and usually wouldn't revert this unless the issue was extremely obvious. My recollection is that it came up on my recent changes filter, I saw a broken ref tag and other formatting issues, and I reverted it. Looking back at the diffs this clearly isn't the case, even in the intermediate diffs. I honestly don't know what happened - my best guess is that I opened history in a new tab and then switched back to the wrong tab, which is embarrassing. I'll try to slow down since I'm new to recent changes.

Apologies for the mix up, and thanks again for letting me know! Jamedeus (talk) 02:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I want to know king mayyur belongs to which caste and does he belongs to Baghochia Dynasty — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rai Shab (talk • contribs) 12:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

I've never heard of King Mayyur or the Baghochia Dynasty, so I can't really help. Also, please post talk discussions at the bottom of the page. See WP:TALKNEW for details. Jamedeus (talk) 00:16, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm very frustrated by the lack of local coverage everywhere and I focus extensively on Portland. Because I'm quite active. I'd like to work with you to create new standards on listing endorsements for such local races because I want the information of the why, what happened and who to be preserved, and local media is struggling and doesn't cover enough to be used as a source. Ballotpedia is too slow and restrictive. So you interested? GrandPeople44 (talk) 00:04, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Hey sorry for the late response, busy week. This is an interesting idea, more endorsement coverage definitely seems useful for non-partisan local races where a candidate's ideology is less obvious. I almost always look at the lists on candidate sites when I'm filling out my ballot to get an idea of which coalition they would join.

I can see some difficulty implementing this though. As you note local media doesn't cover many endorsements, and WP:ENDORSE specifically says sources have to be independent (so no candidate websites or endorser tweets). That doesn't seem to leave many options, unless you have ideas I'm not thinking of. Personally I'd be fine sourcing local endorsements to a tweet (keeping the notability requirement), but WP:LOCALCONSENSUS says we can't override a community-wide consensus (and the endorsement guidelines came from a community-wide RfC).

What were your ideas for the new standards? Jamedeus (talk) 08:57, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Have you heard of Rose City Reform? They have a candidate tracker. GrandPeople44 (talk) 18:58, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I haven't but I'll be following it now, seems like a good source! As far as using it on wikipedia, it's unfortunate that everything is on substack as this will likely be considered user-generated. I searched on WP:RSN and this seems to be consensus. She seems credible given the journalist background, sitting on local boards etc, but I still wouldn't be surprised if it was challenged.

It's worth noting we're still very early in the election, so there will probably be more endorsement coverage in a few months. Local papers don't really run headlines about endorsements but they usually at least mention the big ones in the late-cycle coverage. Jamedeus (talk) 07:19, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi there. I notice you recently made a change to WEX Inc. (which is protected) Do you think you could look into adding the template mentioned in the talk page? Many thanks, 92.71.60.61 (talk) 12:41, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Looks like somebody beat me to it! Sorry I missed your request - when I click on them from the list it scrolls to the bottom of the talk page, so I didn't see yours. If you need any other edits made you can use the edit request wizard to add them to the list, or feel free to ask me here! Jamedeus (talk) 23:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

That's great. Thanks anyway! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.71.60.61 (talk) 09:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

About this, the user already tried to push same sources in the discussion I see they even tried using the same blog which was already mentioned to them is unacceptable , including in the first comment. I think it's wrong that the user has requested an extended confirmed edit with same sources that don't mention Georgian origin and which were discussed already while there are users actively opposing them in the discussion, the user doesn't even mention the discussion in their edit request. Just wanted to provide additional context. Cheers! Vanezi (talk) 03:52, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I'm not particularly familiar with this topic but from this history and discussion it definitely looks like an attempt to circumvent consensus. Jamedeus (talk) 20:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Faithless elector Bill Greene voted Ron Paul for president instead of Donald Trump, but still voted Mike Pence for vice president as he was pledged to. Thus, Pence received one more electoral vote than Trump. There is no mention of Mike Pence receiving 304 electoral votes in any of the "citations" you refer to. This is because he received 305, and Trump received 304. My edit was correct and did not need to be reverted. Alistair McBuffio (talk) 18:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Alistair McBuffio you're correct, my mistake - I restored your edit and removed the talk page template.

It looks like the whole vice presidential column is essentially uncited, since the citation only deals with presidential electoral votes and doesn't verify any of the information. I'm looking through other pages for a citation to replace it and can't find anything. Do you know of any reliable sources with a summary of the vice presidential electoral votes that we could use? Jamedeus (talk) 19:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

all information in vanniyar page are wrong book mentioned for edits has no source please delete word low caste all source provided is not official source 2409:4072:883:FB59:0:0:26EE:40B0 (talk) 09:16, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

	The Citation Barnstar
	Prompt and beautiful! Nice one. jp×g🗯️ 08:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Wow thanks! Always wanted to get one of these :) Jamedeus (talk) 09:58, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey there, thanks for adding a better quality photo to Sameer Kanal. I'm going to send him the consent-release form so he can release a photo into the Commons where he's actually looking AT the camera. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to do anything to the page because I actually know him. Guylaen (talk) 03:24, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Hey @Guylaen, sorry for the very late reply, busy offline. Glad I could help! I'm happy to change it to a better photo if he releases one, it's a shame nothing better was available. Something at a public event/meeting would be ideal just to avoid the appearance of WP:PROMO (personally I don't think professional headshots are a problem as long as they're freely licensed, but I've seen them get reverted).

P.S. if he has pictures of other councilors he'd be willing to release (group photo?) that would be great, we could really use a better one for Pirtle-Guiney in particular. Jamedeus (talk) 22:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Jamedeus I have been researching on the subject of independent and minor party candidates in Oregon. I was just asking if it is possible to add more information on both Nathalie Paravicini (Green Party) & Liam Keel (Independent) to the article 2024 Oregon Secretary of State election which includes a 1-2 sentence description of each.

Here are my reliable sources

Nathalie Paravicini:

Oregon secretary of state candidate Nathalie Paravicini on audits, elections, ranked choice voting - OPB

District Oregon with Endorsements

Liam Keel:

While media focuses on presidential outcome, local elections have more impact – The Wolf

District Oregon with Endorsements Barentz (talk) 01:26, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

Hey @Barentz, thanks for reaching out. We include information on all notable candidates (as established by coverage in WP:RS), but per WP:DUE we must do this in proportion to the amount of coverage they received. I can't really find any direct coverage of Paravicini other than the OPB interview you linked, so it would be undue to give her the same amount of coverage as the major party candidates. Since they only have 1 bullet point each there's really not much we can add about Paravicini. If she had received over 5% of the vote we'd list her in the infobox, but she didn't quite make that.

As for Keel all I could find is confirmation that he was a registered candidate, but no news coverage. There are always lots of registered candidates in every race (all it takes is filling out a form and paying $100) so we can't include all of them, only the ones that receive coverage. Jamedeus (talk) 02:58, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

Hey @Jamedeus. Your wiki edit anniversary was 1 day ago, marking 6 years of dedicated contributions to English Wikipedia. Your passion for sharing knowledge and your remarkable contributions have not only enriched the project, but also inspired countless others to contribute. Thank you for your amazing contributions. Wishing you many more wonderful years ahead in the Wiki journey. :) -❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ ✉ 06:15, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I do a fair amount of editing to ensure the caucuses in the House are correctly tallied. I saw some of your edits and you seem like a very levelheaded editor who might be interested in that sort of thing. lmk Blippy1998 (talk) 03:36, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

@Blippy1998 hey sorry for the late reply, still in holiday mode, but yeah I'd definitely be interested. Let me know what I can do to help! Jamedeus (talk) 08:57, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

No problem; I'm not always the best at replying myself. I have a somewhat grand vision to have one master source for info about members - a database that stores committee membership and caucus membership, and perhaps other details, and have that data referenced/aggregated in templates or directly in articles so we can have sitewide updated data based on a single, centralized source. One only needs to look at the less-frequently-visited pages, like House Freedom Caucus or House Progressive Caucus, to see what I mean, to say nothing of the state of these types of articles in other languages. I have made a modicum of progress toward this by creating Template:HouseDemocraticTally, Template:HouseRepublicanTally, and Template:HouseVacantTally, but those are updated using a bot that just scrapes numerical data from the clerk's office (it would also be easy to create and maintain Template:HouseIndependentTally using this bot if necessary). Something more comprehensive/scalable/extensible is what I envision. I gather other Wikipedias don't have the apparent aversion to Wikidata that the English Wikipedia does; do you have any experience with that? Do you have any ideas for using List of current United States representatives? At some point I tried making a parsing module in Lua but it didn't seem worth pursuing, especially given lack of consensus at the time. No worries if you have no programming experience, by the way; I'm also interested in ideas for design and for checking if there is consensus before embarking on a massive project like that. Blippy1998 (talk) 03:07, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

Yeah that definitely sounds useful, I've had somewhat similar ideas in cases where the same info needs to be updated in multiple places but its usually more of a one-off, so I just write a throwaway script for it. But as often as Congress numbers change (and how many pages repeat them) I think this would make a lot of sense and be worth the time though. Also congrats on getting the bot approved!

I haven't gone too deep into wikidata but I feel like it might have the same problem as mainspace, ie needing someone to manually update it (maybe not?). Honestly my first instinct to get member data is to pull it from the Congress API, I just requested a key and it was pretty easy to get all the names/district/party as JSON like this:

{
    "AL-1": {
        "name": "Moore, Barry",
        "party": "Republican"
    },
    "AL-2": {
        "name": "Figures, Shomari",
        "party": "Democratic"
    },

It probably wouldn't be too hard to have a script query the API, total up members by party etc, any other relevant params, and output one big JSON to lua-ify. Then just write that to a module on wikipedia and have templates pull what they need from it. They say the member data updates at 8 am so probably just need to check once a day.

Caucus membership seems a little trickier though, they don't seem to have it on the API unfortunately. Some of the sites are easy to scrape, ie on the Progressive Caucus document.querySelectorAll('.header > h3 > a') gets all the names, but I can't even find a full member list on the RSC website (not to mention some of the small caucuses not even having house.gov sites). Do you know what the current consensus is for sourcing those numbers? If there's an agreed upon source I feel like you could scrape that and merge it into the Congress API JSON to get everything in one place, which would make it easier to handle edge cases like non-voting members etc.

Not sure if that's exactly what you mean by a centralized database but just some thoughts on how I'd approach it. Jamedeus (talk) 07:35, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! I just put the most recent code onto User:Blippy1998Bot. It's nice to know you know how to write programs - that should help.

Do you know how often that API is updated, though? I used to use the press gallery page, before I realized that the Clerk's page updated faster, before I realized that that isn't actually necessarily true, so I recently rewrote it to use both and guess at which one is more up to date. It would be nice to have a "ground truth" source, but we could always synthesize a third source; that would still help even if it's the slowest of the three, as it gives specific names, so we could automate (even at a slower pace) committee memberships that way, assuming that information is reliable (see below problems with caucus membership). If committee membership isn't reliable or up to date or whatnot, we could still use the presence or absence of a member in the API data to check against another list we maintain (again, I suggest modifying and using a human-readable list on Wikipedia already, like List of current United States representatives).

I'd also like caucus membership, but I don't know where to source that, as that is muddy even on official sources (for example, sometimes a caucus website will list a member but that member's website won't list the caucus membership, or vice versa), and some caucuses don't release member data, like the Freedom Caucus.

If you look way back, I did play around with Lua, but I had a lot of trouble getting Wikipedia's Lua to do anything with json. The pages I edited are below, although these are each just one of many configurations I tried.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Module_sandbox&oldid=1215357411

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:X2&action=edit&oldid=1215355242

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:X1&action=edit&oldid=1215349119

I should also note that the consensus is to use this sort of automation only for less-used pages and locations of tallies. For example, the consensus is to have users manually edit the member tallies in the United States House of Representatives infobox but to have the automated tallies used farther down the page.

Blippy1998 (talk) 03:33, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

Whoops, I just noticed you wrote it's updated at 8. Once a day should be fine for the less-edited pages/parts of pages (i.e. committee membership, etc.), yeah, but it's probably not even worth using it for party membership then. Blippy1998 (talk) 03:36, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

It looks like the Congress API doesn't provide info for members of committees or committees members are on, so I think we need a different source. Blippy1998 (talk) 03:48, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I still think the best solution would be to use Wikidata, especially since that would allow other languages' Wikipedias to use the data. It would be cool to expand this to state legislatures and/or other countries' legislatures, too. It's unfortunate when one language's Wikipedia has much different data from another's, and this is is a very solvable problem. I'll stop spamming you for now, though. :) Blippy1998 (talk) 03:58, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

Hey again! Sorry to bother you with this but I reopened this project today and came up with a couple potential sources and organized some other stuff. I've put it down below. Sorry for the poor formatting and wall of links.

sources

party affiliation
---
https://www.gop.gov/about/members.htm
https://democrats.house.gov/who-we-are/our-members
https://legiscan.com/US/roster

committee membership
---
https://clerk.house.gov/xml/lists/MemberData.xml
https://www.gop.gov/about/members.htm
https://democrats.house.gov/who-we-are/committees
https://github.com/unitedstates/congress-legislators/blob/main/committee-membership-current.yaml

to do

• find out how often the legiscan, github, and official caucus/conference/committee sources are updated and how they count independents
  
• figure out where we want to use caucus/conference numbers and where we want to use party numbers (right now, the House Republican Conference has 218 voting members but there are 217 voting Republicans in the House, and it turns out, contrary to my expectation, that both the sources my script pulls from count the latter)
  
• decide whether to use wikidata or wikipedia (i prefer wikidata)
  
• decide whether to maintain only a tally per committee/caucus and transclude templates each time it is referenced or maintain a list of members with committee/caucus membership and build a tally of members from that master list, perhaps with intermediate templates for efficiency (i prefer a master list of members, as it's more versatile/modular)
  
• decide how to uniformly deal with non-voting members (i propose to exclude them from all tallies but to add a footnote every time they're relevant - this is already common practice on wikipedia)
  
• for "ideological caucuses", decide whether to do this programmatically at all, as information can conflict between news sites, members' pages, members' announcements, and caucus websites, or may not be published by the caucus at all

relevant pages (perhaps among others)

Blue Collar Caucus
Blue Dog Coalition
Caucuses of the United States Congress
Congressional Antitrust Caucus
Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus
Congressional Black Caucus
Congressional Blockchain Caucus
Congressional Cannabis Caucus
Congressional Caucus for the Equal Rights Amendment
Congressional Constitution Caucus
Congressional Equality Caucus
Congressional Freethought Caucus
Congressional Hispanic Caucus
Congressional Hispanic Conference
Congressional Progressive Caucus
Congressional Ukraine Caucus
Congressional caucus
Expand Social Security Caucus
Freedom Caucus
Friends of Wales Caucus
House Democratic Caucus
House Republican Conference
Justice Democrats
Labor Caucus (United States)
Liberty Caucus
Medicare for All Caucus
New Democrat Coalition
Problem Solvers Caucus
Republican Governance Group
Republican Study Committee
Second Amendment Caucus
Squad (U.S. Congress)
Tea Party Caucus
United States House of Representatives
Template:Ideological caucuses in the U.S. Congress

Blippy1998 (talk) 12:52, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

To be clear, the "to do" list isn't a list of commands I'm expecting you to carry out or anything absurd like that, haha. It's just generally stuff that pertains to this project. Blippy1998 (talk) 12:54, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

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