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I know you're fed up, but thought you might be interested in this edit. 32.218.36.31 (talk) 14:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, boy. @OrangeMike: This is very disappointing. The WP:ANI discussion has sputtered out, but this edit is another example of Packerfansam (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) using a misleading edit summary to remove sourced religious information from an article:

Edit summary portion replaced with sculpture parks

Prior version:

There are several other historical cemeteries in Omaha, historical Jewish synagogues and historical Christian churches dating from the pioneer era, as well.

New version:

The city's pioneering history is celebrated at two sculpture parks, Pioneer Courage and Spirit of Nebraska's Wilderness.^[1]

References

1. [1]

   Sculpture Parks. Retrieved 6/22/15.

Help! JoeSperrazza (talk) 15:44, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

And another one: 32.218.36.31 (talk) 16:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

For anyone looking here, being discussed at the editors talk page:

• User_talk:Packerfansam#Omaha
• User_talk:Packerfansam#Cornish_politicians
• User_talk:Packerfansam#Continuing_to_create_problem_stubs_vs._cleanup

JoeSperrazza (talk) 01:49, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

No, I think that's just a repost of the very same Wikipedia article. There's really no source for it that I can find. The sentence was added in 2008 by an IP out of Fort Myers, Florida. Maybe just a bit of boosterism there. JohnInDC (talk) 16:27, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I thought that might be the case, but didn't check the timestamps. I thought it might be the reverse. On a related note, I'm not too pleased to have WP:HOUND thrown around, but the editor's talk page is the wrong place to discuss (if at all). I reiterate my "I'm fed up" comment from earlier on my talk page. But I do thank you for trying to do the right thing. You, I and the 33 IP, along with others (e.g., RFD) have all been working to improve the articles and find a way to suggest, plead, cajole, and almost beg the editor to improve. Having only looked at their last 500 or so edits, I can't say how far back the problem goes, but I'm concerned it goes back farther than the beginning of May. Hopefully, editors who routinely work in that area will have some time to look and fix things. I had thought we could get improvements on the new stubs being created, but I've lost hope. I don't pretend to understand other's motivations, nor why accusations of bad faith are being thrown at us (which are themselves in bad faith). Simultaneously we're trying to fix things, explain things, and debate other editors who seem to be, sometimes, shooting from the hip (inasmuch as some, clearly, have not read the links to the things on which they comment). As I said, when you add to that the general incivility of some editors and the constant barrage of socks, I am fed up. JoeSperrazza (talk) 17:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, don't let it get to you! My experience on the whole is that the community susses out problem editors sooner or later. Like you I am a bit mystified in this instance - the problem seems so abundantly clear, and the editor so determinedly clueless, that meaningful improvement seems like a pipe dream. And it's not like my concerns were shouted down in ANI - there were lots of folks calling for an indef block. So yeah, I'm frustrated too, but figure either 1) I've pegged it right, in which case eventually the right thing will happen; or 2) I'm wrong and things will be fine. The third option - I'm right and everyone is is wrong and the encylopedia will suffer as a result - well, I encounter it so infrequently that I'm willing to wait a bit longer to see how it sorts out. The intimations of bad faith (from real editors as opposed to vandals and sock puppets) are kind of unfamiliar and unwelcome territory for me but there too I figure the best way to show it is to acquiesce for a while. If the problem persists in a real way, it will be easy to revisit. And if not, then we were statesmanlike. Win-win, eh? JohnInDC (talk) 17:46, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Well said, my new found friend, and thanks for making me laugh. I have decided I'm done with editing on any of those topics, and am going to clear them from my watchlist. Certainly I agree that it is either 1) or 2). I am surprised and disappointed that other editors (none newbies, some with considerable tenure) chose to respond they way they did on an obviously troubled (I don't mean that on a personal basis, just regarding their contributions) editor's talk page. It turned into the kind of drama-fests that make me avoid WP:ANI whenever I can. Hopefully, IP 33 can continue to chip away at fixing new contributions of that editor. As for the old ones, well, they'll either come to light some day and be fixed, or they won't. Thanks again for the nice note. Best regards, JoeSperrazza (talk) 17:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Keep on the Sunny Side 32.218.38.92 (talk) 19:47, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

A minor update. I was a day or so away from dropping you a note to observe that the problematic edits had ended, and suggesting that perhaps we had, in fact, been overzealous. Today however brought this edit to Eau Claire, Wisconsin, removing a comprehensive list of churches (including a synagogue and LDS Temple) as unsourced, and substituting a sourced / wikilinked list describing 5 Christian denominations in town. The longer list was unsourced, but the effort that went into building the list of major Christian churches could have as easily been directed toward filling in sources for the others, rather than deleting it wholesale. (I found sources for four or five of the more obscure ones as an easy starter.) I learned my lesson with the Naples painting here, which is that if she makes what looks like a biased edit but offers up a technically correct justification, I'm going to fix the bias but make sure the restoration is within WP policies. I plan to continue in that way for the time being. That way the encyclopedia is improved; and, as I said above, if in fact a pattern of biased editing re-emerges, we can raise it again. JohnInDC (talk) 21:59, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Well done, and good approach. Thanks, and happy July 4th! JoeSperrazza (talk) 01:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for editing the page, I recently went to the Crewe heritage center and asked about the class 87. They told me that the traction motors had been robbed last year and vandalized the whole train that is very sad. I thought it would be a good idea to put this on the wiki to tell people that the train was hopeless of ever working again. I would really appreciate if you included this in the wiki to let people know the current condition of class 87035. Sorry for taking so long to reply and i hope you can make these changes if you don't that is fine by me.

Thanks cdgames — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdgames (talk • contribs) 12:56, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, @Cdgames:, and thanks for the note. I see the edit to which you refer . Can you help find a reference to this in the news or something? If so, as I now understand it, it sounds like it may be a worthwhile addition to the article. Thanks again for getting in touch with me. Best regards, JoeSperrazza (talk) 13:41, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello again I have been to the heritage centre recently and I have confirmed that the traction motors have robbed but only a few parts not the whole traction motor also other electrical parts. Apparently the throttle of the traction motors was stolen and sadly they as well said that 87035 has no chance of working ever again. I could not find anything on the news or around the internet about it only the staff know. Anyway I hope this is enough info to add this careless and sad robbery to the page.

thanks cdgames — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdgames (talk • contribs) 11:57, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Joesperrazza.... I dont know how to deorphan a profile. Could you help me out with an example? After searching on the internet i found out to deorphan you must link the wiki page in other pages. If possible jus give me an example. Would help alot. Thank you

117.253.199.73 (talk) 11:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Joesperrazza.... I dont know how to deorphan a profile. Could you help me out with an example? After searching on the internet i found out to deorphan you must link the wiki page in other pages. If possible jus give me an example. Would help alot. Thank you: Cambite01 (talk) 11:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi, @Cambite01:. I believe you received an answer at User_talk:I_dream_of_horses#Orphan_Page regarding Navaneeth Unnikrishnan, but I'll elaborate:

1. Don't be overly concerned about an orphan tag. It is there to let editors know that, at the moment, other articles in WP don't link to that article.
2. To find relevant articles in which to add a link to Navaneeth Unnikrishnan, consider looking at linked articles. Example: Perhaps add him to Thalassery#Notable_residents.

Best regards, JoeSperrazza (talk) 13:44, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

You probably don't want to change "movie" to "movi.e." as you did here. You might want to see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 138#Protecting an entire article against automatic spell-miscorrection. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 02:48, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Wow! What a dufus edit. Sorry I missed it. Thanks for the link. JoeSperrazza (talk) 02:58, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Joe! I've also fixed the similar issues from this edit. Could you please look through your recent contributions to see if there are any others that need to be fixed? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:44, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Yikes! Will do. JoeSperrazza (talk) 06:54, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Anotherclown (talk) 05:21, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

I removed this text from Gregorian_calendar#Months_of_the_year:

Numerical methods were described in the ''Journal of the Department of Mathematics,'' Open University, in 1997 and 1998.<ref>Journal of the Department of Mathematics, '''M500''' (ed. A D Forbes) Issue 157 (September 1997) p. 21, Issue 160 (February 1998) pp. 19 - 20 (contains typographical errors), and Issue 161 (April 1998) p. 21. The M500 Society, Open University, Milton Keynes, England. ISSN 1350-8539.</ref>

When you look into it, you'll see that the so-called "Journal of the Department of Mathematics" is neither a journal nor a reliable source. Per the publisher, M500 Society it is a collection of WP:SPS. The text also appears to be irresistable for certain London area anonymous editors:

The M500 Society began in 1973 as a self-help group for Open University maths students in Southampton.

In the early days of the OU there was very little contact between students other than at their own tutorial group meetings, which often only took place during the teaching periods of the school or university in which they were held.

Before students had personal computers and the various forms of electronic communication that they now use to communicate with each other and OU staff, the Society compiled and published the names, addresses and current courses of students willing to help other students with their studies. These lists were mailed out with a magazine containing articles, comments, puzzles, reviews and news submitted by members.

Now there are members throughout Britain and in many other countries across the world and, although we no longer publish student contact details, the magazine is still going strong.

The M500 Magazine

This is published free to all M500 members six times a year. It still contains articles, comments, puzzles, reviews and news submitted by members. It is aimed at all levels of mathematical attainment from Foundation to Postgraduate.

JoeSperrazza (talk) 12:10 am, Today (UTC−4)

P.S. A formatting error occurred whenever I pasted the above into the article talk page. Thus, I posted it here. JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Please explain the script error that was being caused by the legitimate template you just removed. Then lets fix this so the template can be returned. Trackinfo (talk) 16:25, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure! I just happened to look at the article, and noticed that it stated "Script Error", in red, at the top of the article, and for every reference (except the first one, oddly). I tried undoing the most recent change (yours, I'm afraid), and the error went away. Your addition seemed perfectly fine, otherwise.

Following your note, I went and looked at the prior version (i.e., your edit's version), here: . This suggests:

1. There was something wrong with {{Footer US NC 1500m Women}} that has suddenly been fixed
2. There was something transiently wrong somewhere else that is now fixed (note I did briefly check a random article and didn't see the same script error).

So, based on the above, I just reverted my revert. Who knows what was wrong before, but there was an error.

Thanks,

JoeSperrazza (talk) 16:31, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

May I politely ask to stop the action of this bot inserting a comma after each "therefore" (at the beginning of a sentence?). This is inappropriate for formulating immediate, logical consequences. I encountered the second occurence of this effect in one day in Jerk (physics), the other was in a logic-page. One could consider this as vandalizing. Regards. Purgy (talk) 17:18, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Maybe you and he have something in common, and you could be friends? - 2601:42:C100:9D83:B1BB:193D:AAF6:31A4 (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Hey, no hate, sorry if you feel that's the thing. Since you asked:

• I'm totally cool with Wiki criticism. I've seen some good things done by you at WO. Sometimes, you do come across in a bad way, but I can't be the first person to mention that to you.
• While I'm firmly in the WP:BMB camp, I know that JimboTalk provides leeway. On-topic, genuine posts (even snarky one's pushing a WO blog entry) are OK. TPO, despite you flogging it at WO, seems pretty off-topic here. YMMV.

As for Bear Creek Camp Conservation Area, I don't think I've ever been anywhere near it (there's a Bear Creek Lake in CO I've likely been near, as I used to live west of there for many years, so for a moment I was surprised, as I thought you meant that). ISTR you are in the PA area. I did recently finish a multi-month assignment in Central PA, and have some family north and south of Central PA, but my knowledge, let alone experience, in that area is pretty limited.

Regards, JoeSperrazza (talk) 17:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Sorry, I blindly assumed you were the Joseph Sperrazza from Jenkin Township, PA, but then saw that there are plenty of other individuals named Joe Sperrazza out there. I'm in a pickle as regards Jimbo, because he says publicly that I should maybe "e-mail him", but then he has told me in the past "never e-mail me again". I'm working on a story about TPO that should be fairly interesting, including a segment on one company subcontractor having been presided over by a former FBI suspect in a money laundering sting at a strip club he night-managed. And that happens to dovetail with a "right to be forgotten" situation with a metro newspaper, another item on which Jimmy Wales is regarded as a global expert. But, if Jimbo won't discuss with me, it's difficult to allow him fair response before the story is published. - 2601:42:C100:9D83:95EB:91F:6010:83B4 (talk) 19:01, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Joe Sperrazza's in the world, there are more than one would think. I am believer in full transparency on-wiki (and don't agree with WMF on anonymous editing, but I'm a nobody, so have no traction on this issue). I don't hide who I am, but don't feel the need to publish my address (lol). I used to have a badge on my user page indicating I'm originally from Maryland (I seem to have removed it, as I no longer live there).

Regarding the situation with Jimbo, I have two thoughts:

• For the article you are writing, you could have your editor (if there is someone in that position for wherever you plan to publish) contact him via email. Not being any more than a life-long reader of newspapers, I can't say what a reasonable timeframe or process would be to wait for a reply before publishing.
• The elephant in the room, of course, is the history between you and Jimbo. I don't need to detail it (I don't know it that well), but, to me, it seems (a) you feel you have been personally wronged, but (b) he feels you are unreasonably obsessed with him, and that your attention makes him uncomfortable. Various people at WP fall in one or the other of those camps. There seems to be information supporting both points of view. Regardless, I think you would accept your approach with respect to Jimbo and WP is considered to be that of a gadfly, i.e., "someone who persistently challenges people in positions of power", with the person in power you most frequently challenge being Jimbo. The challenge for you, I think, is that your observations and criticism are clearly considered by some (if not many in the WP hierarchy of authority) to be tainted and diminished by a personal agenda. Sometimes, your postings to Jimbotalk reinforces that point of view. Even your work on "creative vandalism", which was interesting and did, as I recall, get some press, was surely considered by some to be driven by your conflict with Jimbo and not by any desire to objectively identify and report on a genuine issue within WP.

I have no clue how to best move forward regarding the second point. I apologize if anything I said, above, was offensive in any way.

Kindest regards, JoeSperrazza (talk) 20:26, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Joe, re the tag on User:86.181.243.0. This IP locates to an entirely different continent from the sockmaster. I'm pretty sure this is just a troll. I suggest you remove the tag. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:06, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Done. ThanksJoeSperrazza (talk) 08:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you so much. I look forward to contributing. Best regards, JoeSperrazza (talk) 03:47, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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The redirect Moongfali has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 30 § Moongfali until a consensus is reached. ArthananWarcraft (talk) 07:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)