User talk:JonekX

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Rambley were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Rambley ^{(talk / contribs)} 15:42, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Dear Reviewers,

I understand that the draft was declined due to a lack of online verifiability. However, I would like to point out that Lean Back was active between 1985 and 2000, largely strictly before the internet era in Poland. Therefore, "significant coverage" exists primarily in offline, printed media, which are acceptable under Wikipedia guidelines (WP:OFFLINE).

I kindly ask you to verify the notability based on the provided printed citations, specifically:

1. The Encyclopedia: Encyklopedia Muzyki Popularnej. Blues w Polsce (1997). This is a renowned published book cataloging significant Polish blues bands.
   • ISBN: 83-85414-92-4
   • Page: 130
2. The Press: Wiadomości Rudzkie (Issue 48/380, 1998). A registered newspaper with an ISSN number, featuring a full article about the band's 10th anniversary.
   • ISSN: 1232-0560
   • Article title: "10 lat z Lean Back" (10 years with Lean Back)

Since these are reliable, independent secondary sources that devote significant coverage to the band (not just passing mentions), the subject meets the WP:MUSIC criteria for notable bands. The lack of English Google results should not disqualify a historical subject documented in Polish printed literature.

I have cleaned up the article to remove any promotional language and unreferenced claims.

Thank you for your time. JonekX (talk) 18:16, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, JonekX! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Rambley (talk / contribs) 15:42, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RangersRus was:

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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RangersRus (talk) 01:41, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello RangersRus, thank you for your feedback. I have updated the draft and added inline citations using footnotes, as requested, to meet the minimum standards.

The band is already documented on the Polish, German, and Czech Wikipedias, where the articles have been verified by editors. I believe the current version of the draft is now ready for publication. It's important for the English-speaking community to have access to this history, as keeping it in "Draft" mode prevents others from easily finding or improving the content. Thank you for your time and for reconsidering the submission. --~~~~ JonekX (talk) 14:49, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Somepinkdude was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
• reliable
• secondary
• independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Lean Back (band) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Somepinkdude (talk) 23:12, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello Somepinkdude, thank you for your review. I would like to point out that since the last submission, the article has undergone a rigorous verification process on the German Wikipedia and was officially "sighted" (approved) by an independent editor on December 19 (see de:Lean Back (Band)).

Regarding notability: the draft includes secondary sources such as the "Encyklopedia Muzyki Popularnej. Blues w Polsce" (ISBN 83-85414-92-4), which provides in-depth coverage of the band's history. This is an independent, published book, not a primary source. I believe the combination of book entries, regional press archives (Wiadomości Rudzkie), and official festival records (Rawa Blues, FAMA) meets the criteria for significant coverage. I would appreciate it if you could re-evaluate these specific references. Thank you. --~~~~ JonekX (talk) 00:08, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

"Hello again Somepinkdude, I would also like to add that the band's history is comprehensively documented on their dedicated archival website: https://leanback.7m.pl/EN/index.html.

While I understand this is a primary source, I am sharing it because it serves as a digital repository for many of the historical records, press clippings, and festival documents mentioned in the draft. This should help in verifying the band's activities and the depth of their coverage in the Polish music scene during the late 80s and 90s.

Combined with the previously mentioned entry in the printed "Encyklopedia Muzyki Popularnej" and the fact that the article has been verified and accepted by the German Wikipedia community, I hope this provides enough context to confirm the subject's notability. Thank you for your time." --~~~~ JonekX (talk) 20:06, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Flexagoon. An edit that you recently made to Wikipedia:Teahouse seemed to be generated using a large language model (an "AI chatbot" or other application using such technology). Text produced by these applications is usually unsuitable for an encyclopedia, and may contain factually inaccurate statements, fictitious citations, or other problems. You should instead read reliable sources and then summarize those in your own words. Your edit may have been reverted. If you want to practice editing, please use your sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or ask your questions at the Teahouse, a friendly place for new users. Thanks. 🍅 fx (talk) 16:50, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Helped I'm using a translation tool to help me communicate here because English isn't my first language, so stop dismissing my arguments as 'AI spam'. These are MY arguments and MY research. By hiding my post, you are preventing other editors from seeing the actual evidence (ISBN/ISSN) I provided for this band. Please uncollapse it immediately so we can have a discussion about the article. JonekX (talk) 12:25, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Your translation tool bolds random pieces of text? 🚂ThatTrainGuy1945 ^{Peep peep!} 13:30, 10 April 2026 (UTC)