User talk:MBH

Another idea. Many links on Wikipedia have been archived by archive.org and archive.today .. check other archives and compare page encoding with WebCite to see if they match. This is not a perfect method because the other archives might not exist, or be a soft-404, or a different snapshot date with different content. But I think it should resolve most of them as there is good coverage.

Here is a script I wrote to access the Wayback API to see if a URL is available. On Toolforge, copy-paste the below to "api.awk" it should work (also 'chmod 755 api.awk')

#!/usr/bin/gawk -bE

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@include "/data/project/botwikiawk/BotWikiAwk/lib/library.awk"

BEGIN {

  Optind = Opterr = 1
  while ((C = getopt(ARGC, ARGV, "pu:t:c:")) != -1) {
      opts++
      if(C == "u")                 #  -u <url>         URL to check.
        url = verifyval(Optarg)
      if(C == "t")                 #  -t <timestamp>   (optional) Timestamp. Default: "20070101"
        timestamp = verifyval(Optarg)
      if(C == "c")                 #  -c <closest>     (optional) Closest: before|after|either - Default: before 
        closest = verifyval(Optarg)
      if(C == "p")                 #  -p               (optional) Print API command not results.
        showapi = 1

      if(C == "h") {
        usage()
        exit
      }
  }

  if(closest !~ /before|after|either/)
    closest = "before"
  if(!isanumber(timestamp) || timestamp == "")
    timestamp = "20070101"

  if( url ~ /error/ || ! opts || url == ""){
    usage()
    exit
  }

  url = urlencodeawk(url)

  command = "wget --header=" shquote("Wayback-Api-Version: 2") " --post-data=" shquote("url=" url "&closest=" closest "&statuscodes=200&statuscodes=203&statuscodes=206&statuscodes=403&tag=&timestamp=" timestamp) " -q -O- " shquote("http://archive.org/wayback/available")

  if(showapi)
    print command
  else
    print sys2var(command)

}

# 
# verifyval - verify any command-line argument has valid value. Usage in getopt()
# 
function verifyval(val) {
  if(val == "" || substr(val,1,1) ~/^[-]/) {
    stdErr("Command line argument has an empty value when it should have something.")
    exit         
  }
  return val
}

function usage() {

  print ""
  print "API - show Wayback API 2 results for a single URL"
  print ""
  print "     Usage  : api -u <url>"
  print ""
  print "     Options:"
  print "              -c <closest>   - before|after|either - default: before"
  print "              -t <timestamp> - default: 20070101"
  print "              -p             - print the API URL instead of results"
  print ""

}

If you decide to try archive.today it has problems. The API to see if a page is available is http://archive.today/timemap/<url> The url portion should not be percent encoded except for "#" which should be encoded to "%23". If the returned html contains www.henley-putnam.edu/Portals/_default/Skins/henley/images/loading.gif there was an error retrieving the page. If the content contains "DDoS protection by Cloudflare" it is being blocked due to rapid queries - the block wears off after a few hours but it can be a problem. -- GreenC 16:02, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

• I have already implemented win1251 checking using https://github.com/jstedfast/Portable.Text.Encoding library, that can convert byte stream into win1251. I will update my algorithm and start checking your list soon. MBH (talk) 16:18, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Excellent. I'm trying to get a full list of URLs from IABot database but there are timeout problems so hopefully today or tomorrow it will complete. -- GreenC 16:48, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Complete list: /data/project/botwikiawk/webcite.db.gz -- GreenC 17:35, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, you have created This is a test page please delete it. It will be speedily deleted soon as a test page and a page where the author wants it to be deleted. Please refrain from making test pages or performing editing tests on real articles. Instead, you can use the WP:SANDBOX or find your own sandbox at Special:MyPage/sandbox. Also, you can make your own pages as long as they are prefixed with "User:MBH/" or "User talk:MBH/" and they are related to Wikipedia. UnnamedUser (talk) 18:55, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

• I made this page to resolve a dispute with another user about "can any registered user create an article in enwiki"? Turned out that I'm autoconfirmed, but that user isn't. MBH (talk) 18:58, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Привет! Мне кажется, что Вы в русской Википедии говорили, что Ваш бот патрулирует правки, если вдруг при патрулировании произошёл сбой. А у меня сейчас висят несколько редиректов, никто их не патрулирует. (Редиректы на гимнасток, см. мои вчерашние правки.) (Пишу здесь, так как в том разделе не планирую иметь никаких дел. Сейчас просто решил перевести всё-таки туда кое-какие свои статьи и кое-что ещё для комплекта. А постоянно идут сбои патрулирования.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:35, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

• Moscow Connection я не особо понял, что вы от меня хотите. Приведите ссылки на данные статьи/правки. MBH (talk) 07:49, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Может, я перепутал? Мне кажется, что в русской Википедии пару месяцев назад было обсуждение недавно возникшей технической проблемы, а именно частых сбоев при автоматическом патрулировании правок (авто)патрулируемых участников. И Вы сказали: "Ничего страшного, мой бот каждый день проходит и такие правки патрулирует."
    Вот примеры: 1, 2.
    Извините, если перепутал Вас с кем-то. А если нет, то, может, настроите бота и редиректы обходить? --Moscow Connection (talk) 08:08, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Нет, не перепутали. Не знаю, почему бот не отпатрулировал эти правки; возможно, он в принципе патрулирует только статьи с наличием хоть одной патрулированной версии. Как будет время - изучу этот вопрос. Это щас отпатрулирую. MBH (talk) 10:08, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

About this, just saying that birds are dinosaurs, not separate animals that are descendents of dinosaurs. In cladistics, all animals descended from a clade belong to that clade; thus, humans are bony fish and birds are dinosaurs. You are right to revert it, however, because COMMONNAME takes precedence. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI ^{converse | fings wot i hav dun} 16:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

In cladistics, but not in common language (and will not in future, I believe). MBH (talk) 16:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hello! Sorry for the late reply to the e-mail you sent me...

Anyhow, I don't know if the Signpost's user account is still active, to be honest. I'd suggest you to just leave your proposal down in the Suggestions section (by clicking on "Make a suggestion"), or directly contact our EiC, JPxG.

I hope this helps! Oltrepier (talk) 13:43, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Oltrepier thanks, but why you answered me on the talk page, if I sent mail for you? If I want to discuss this on talk pages, I'll write you on talk page, but if I sent a mail for you, I want to iscuss this through mail. MBH (talk) 03:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

You're right, sorry: it was just a lapsus... Oltrepier (talk) 07:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

Per WP:BOTUSERSPACE, you are only permitted to make edits with your bot User:MBHbot within your own userspace (MBH's or MBHbot's), and not in other user's userspaces. Specifically, the edits of User:Кронас/transnamespace moves are not following this rule. If you wish to continue your bot's "transnamespace moves" list, please do so within your own userspace (MBH or MBHbot) and not in Кронас's userspace.

If you plan on doing any bot tasks with your bot here on enwiki that are outside of your userspace, you will need to go through enwiki's WP:BRFA process, as enwiki does not honor global BRFAs (the only exception is updating interwiki links, per WP:INTERWIKIBOT and WP:GLOBALBOTS).

Thank you and best wishes, Zinnober9 (talk) 00:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@Zinnober9, user Кронас asked me to do this stats in his userspace, it's not permitted even in such case? Why, what's the reason of this rule? MBH (talk) 09:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

It's not permitted. The general rule is that all bot editing must be approved at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval. The WP:Bot policy has some information on why the policy exists. There's a limited exception to the approval requirement for certain tasks that only edit within the maintainer's or bot's own userspace. But that exception doesn't extend to any other user's userspace. Anomie⚔ 12:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

It's unbelievably awful, terrible rules. Ruwiki has much more suitable bot rules and no one in ruwiki can't even think about prohibition for bot to update a page in some user's personal space by request of this user. But okay, I moved this page to bot's userspace. MBH (talk) 13:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

What I'd suggest is for the bot to create/update the list in its own userspace, and then on Кронас's page, have a transclusion of the bot's page by adding "{{User:MBHbot pagename}}". That way the bot is within the rules of WP:BOTUSERSPACE, and Кронас has the live, up to date list as they want without your bot leaving its/your userspace. Кронас can also unsubscribe by removing the transclusion whenever they wish. Zinnober9 (talk) 16:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

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@Anne drew what your script do I use? MBH (talk) 16:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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Не знаю, пользуетесь ли вы мессенджером Teams. Раньше я вам иногда писал в Скайпе. Вчера отправил сообщение через Teams. Если есть возможность, прочтите, пожалуйста. — 92.243.182.213 (talk) 19:28, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Не пользуюсь. Пишите тут или по википочте на mbhwik at gmail com. MBH (talk) 19:53, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

OK, напишу. — 92.243.182.213 (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

@MBH: оберни все комментарии после таблиц в {{text-align|1=left|2=...}}, что ли. sapphaline (talk) 17:38, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Я думаю под них отдельный раздел отвести, третий столбец таблицы. MBH (talk) 23:49, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

@Sapphaline ru:ВП:Ф-Т#Рассортировать КУ по месяцам просрочки - не подскажете, как правильно сделать? MBH (talk) 10:46, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

не сильна в медиавикийской математике + там какое-то решение от Roxiffe-le-boim. sapphaline (talk) 12:14, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

@Sapphaline ru:ВП:Ф-Т, тема про табличку в СН - не подскажете, в чём проблема? MBH (talk) 13:18, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

ну во-первых списки должны быть в <div>, а не в <span>. sapphaline (talk) 13:18, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

во-вторых - как видно в dom браузера, в group-closer-show group-sysop-show попал не только первый элемент списка, но в том числе и второй, опять же скорее всего из-за <ul> в <span>. sapphaline (talk) 13:24, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

да, я уже сам догадался. Почему поставил энтер - думал, что маркированный список может не сработать, если поставить звёздочку не первым символом в строке. То есть вы предлагаете заменить на див и всё, маркированный список можно оставить? MBH (talk) 13:26, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

вообще если так сделать:

<div class="group-closer-show group-sysop-show">
* '''[[ВП:ЧК|Голосование администраторов и ПИ по застарелым номинациям КУ]]'''</div>
* '''[[Википедия:Статьи года/2025/Голосование|Голосование по кандидатам]] в «[[Википедия:Статьи года/2025|Статьи года — 2025]]»''' (до 21 декабря).

то получается разрыв списка (т.е. 2 разных списка получится), поэтому предлагаю сделать так (вместе с удалением шаблона plainlist):

<ul class="plainlist">
<li class="group-closer-show group-sysop-show">'''[[ВП:ЧК|Голосование администраторов и ПИ по застарелым номинациям КУ]]'''
<li>'''[[Википедия:Статьи года/2025/Голосование|Голосование по кандидатам]] в «[[Википедия:Статьи года/2025|Статьи года — 2025]]»''' (до 21 декабря).
</ul>

sapphaline (talk) 13:28, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

или, ещё проще, - просто не скрывать сообщение от каких-либо участников. sapphaline (talk) 13:34, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

спасибо, я решил поставить отдельно выше, не интегрируя в плейнлист и не изменяя его (текущий его вид проще обычным юзерам для изменения). MBH (talk) 13:41, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

можешь заменить

| изображение = <table style="background-color:white;border-collapse:collapse;border:0px solid black;width:290px;margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tr><td style="border-top:0;padding:2px 0 0 2px"><table style="background-color:white;border-collapse:collapse"><tr><td style="border-top:0;padding:0 2px 2px 0">[[Файл:Saint Michael the Archangel Church (Izhevsk)-52.jpg|Свято-Михайловский собор, пруд и панорама города с высоты птичьего полёта|290px]]</td></tr></table><table style="background-color:white;border-collapse:collapse"><tr><td style="border-top:0;padding:0 2px 2px 0">[[Файл:Русский Драматический Театр Днём.jpg|Русский драматический театр Удмуртии|107px]]</td><td style="border-top:0;padding:0 2px 2px 0">[[Файл:Izhevsk Arsenal-22.jpg|Арсенал Ижевского оружейного завода|180px]]</td></tr></table><table style="background-color:white;border-collapse:collapse"><tr><td style="border-top:0;padding:0 2px 2px 0">[[Файл:Motor ship at the Izhevsk pond (cropped).JPG|Теплоход на Ижевском пруду|290px]]</td></tr></table><table style="background-color:white;border-collapse:collapse"><tr><td style="border-top:0;padding:0 2px 2px 0">[[Файл:Izhevsk Reservoir-36.jpg|Ночной вид на центр Ижевска|290px]]</td></tr></table></td></tr></table>[[Файл:Apartment_Complex_Republic,_Izhevsk_(September_2022)_-_6.jpg|мини]]

на

| изображение = {{фотомонтаж|photo1a=Saint Michael the Archangel Church (Izhevsk)-52.jpg{{!}}Свято-Михайловский собор, пруд и панорама города с высоты птичьего полёта|photo2a=Русский Драматический Театр Днём.jpg{{!}}Русский драматический театр Удмуртии|photo2b=Izhevsk Arsenal-22.jpg{{!}}Арсенал Ижевского оружейного завода|photo3a=Motor ship at the Izhevsk pond (cropped).JPG{{!}}Теплоход на Ижевском пруду|photo4a=Izhevsk Reservoir-36.jpg{{!}}Ночной вид на центр Ижевска|photo5a=Apartment_Complex_Republic,_Izhevsk_(September_2022)_-_6.jpg{{!}}ЖК «Республика» в Ижевске|color=#fff|color_border=#fff|size=320}}

? sapphaline (talk) 13:13, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

@Sapphaline готово MBH (talk) 14:08, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

залей код отсюда на ru:Шаблон:Заглавная/styles.css. sapphaline (talk) 17:52, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

готово MBH (talk) 09:36, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

и !important к white-space: inherit добавь, у нативных стилей слишком большая специфичность. sapphaline (talk) 09:43, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

@Sapphaline скинь готовый код MBH (talk) 09:48, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

заменить white-space: inherit; на white-space: inherit !important;. sapphaline (talk) 09:49, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

готово MBH (talk) 09:57, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

@Sapphaline ru:ВП:Коллективные_итоги_на_КУ#Лица_уральской_национальности (и Кризисный лагерь выше) - почему в первой колонке вертикальное выравнивание по центру, во второй - по верху? MBH (talk) 10:07, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

потому что во второй колонке больше текста, чем в первой. sapphaline (talk) 10:08, 22 December 2025 (UTC) а нет, там <p><br></p> почему-то. sapphaline (talk) 10:09, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

ru:Шаблон:ВЧК-голоса - надо удалить пустую строку после #{{{удал8|}}}. sapphaline (talk) 10:10, 22 December 2025 (UTC)

замени все ;За, ;Против, ;Воздерживаюсь на '''За''', '''Против''', '''Воздерживаюсь'''. sapphaline (talk) 12:28, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Я знаю причины, по которым пуристы html требуют так делать, но лично я не считаю это достаточно серьёзной проблемой. MBH (talk) 12:36, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

-.- sapphaline (talk) 12:38, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

замени alt=≛ на alt=Это избранный список. sapphaline (talk) 15:32, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

готово MBH (talk) 15:44, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

добавь в самый конец два </div>. sapphaline (talk) 09:25, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

По-моему, по аналогии с разделами выше, нужен один, я пока один добавил. Или второй нужен от какого-то верхнего открывающего дива? И зачем это вообще, браузер же автозакрывает незакрытые теги в конце страницы? MBH (talk) 19:00, 24 December 2025 (UTC)

"второй нужен от какого-то верхнего открывающего дива" - да, <div class="wp-aoty-articles">. "И зачем это вообще" - затем, что это ошибка статического анализатора и на ru:Википедия:Статьи года из-за отсутствия закрывающего тега этот <div> выходит за пределы включения этой страницы. sapphaline (talk) 08:59, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

Поставил. MBH (talk) 09:43, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

убери nomobile со строки

* {{Заглавная/Кнопка|Википедия:Статьи года|Все 11 статей года — 2025|class=mw-ui-quiet nomobile}}

и

* {{Заглавная/Кнопка|Википедия:Избранные статьи|{{plural:{{Счётчик ИС}}|{{Счётчик ИС}} избранная статья|Все {{Счётчик ИС}} избранные статьи|Все {{Счётчик ИС}} избранных статей}}|class=mw-ui-quiet nomobile}}

. sapphaline (talk) 10:16, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

ты хоть какое-то обоснование пиши MBH (talk) 10:41, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

ну то же, что и при ru:Википедия:Технические_запросы/Архив/2025#заглавная_страница? sapphaline (talk) 10:45, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

щас MBH (talk) 11:39, 25 December 2025 (UTC)

@MBH: и ещё раз. пожалуйста, убери и скажи Vladimir Solovjev, чтобы больше не ставил этот класс. sapphaline (talk) 21:44, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

убрал. Говорить, вероятно, избыточно: в следующий раз он уже не будет поставлен. MBH (talk) 03:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

залей код отсюда (alt= не должен быть пустым на недекоративных изображениях). sapphaline (talk) 08:50, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

поясни, что делает твой код, если alt№ не передано? MBH (talk) 10:03, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

не ставит alt?

текущий код его ставит, но пустым, т.е. |alt= (alt="" в html страницы), чего не должно быть. sapphaline (talk) 10:41, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

готово MBH (talk) 10:48, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

прошу заменить

:: <small>''Спокойствия и тепла в новом году.''</small>

на

{{hatnote|<small>Спокойствия и тепла в новом году.</small>}}

sapphaline (talk) 08:26, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

готово MBH (talk) 11:02, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

@MBH: впринципе, для точного соблюдения старого внешнего вида можно ещё обернуть в {{bi, т.е. {{bi|1={{hatnote|<small>Спокойствия и тепла в новом году.</small>}}}}. sapphaline (talk) 09:20, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

та не нужно MBH (talk) 09:42, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

@Alex NB IT: прошу сделать (и ещё раз извиняюсь за всё сказанное 7 декабря). sapphaline (talk) 10:54, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

это не я. sapphaline (talk) 20:08, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

и, кажется, я даже знаю, кто это. sapphaline (talk) 20:10, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

@Q-bit array: а прокси какой, канадский? sapphaline (talk) 13:38, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Нет, не канадский. -- Q-bit array (talk) 17:11, 25 February 2026 (UTC)