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Paraguayan cinema by decade
Unfortunately, the problem is that the {{Nationality films by decade category header}} template that's on the Category:Paraguayan films by decade subcategory is autogenerating and transcluding Category:Paraguayan cinema by decade, meaning that there's no easy way to get rid of it — it isn't actually being directly declared on Category:Paraguayan films by decade as a category statement itself, it's being smuggled in by a template that takes the country name from any category that it's on and then automatically force-feeds a standardized set of category declarations based on that country name, including "[Nationality] cinema by decade", so that every invocation of that template has a functionally identical set of categories on it.
So if the category is being autogenerated by a template, but can't just stay on Category:Paraguayan films by decade as a redlink, then the only choices are either (a) the category has to stay in place regardless of any CFD discussions, or (b) somebody has to either partially disable or completely remove the standardized template from the subcategory. Since it isn't actually sitting anywhere as a category statement in its own right, but instead is being artificially generated based on category-making code in a template and any attempt to reprogram that template would break all the other categories that template is being used on too, those are the only two ways to resolve the redlinked category, because there's no way for me to just HotCat it out since it isn't actually a HotCattable declaration anywhere.
The whole effort to standardize a lot of category trees with this set of standardized templates has honestly led to a whole ton of problems like this. The category report gets cluttered up all the time with stuff that doesn't really need to exist, and/or is actually incorrect in some way, but resulted precisely from somebody applying one of those standardized category-making templates. But unfortunately, it's a lot more complicated to resolve redlinks that come from templates than it is to solve redlinks that are just sitting directly on a page in [[Category:Bla bla bla]] form — and unfortunately sometimes the most appropriate solution ends up being that a category that seems unnecessary has to be left in place anyway because it's part of a standardization template and deleting it would just cause other problems. Bearcat (talk) 14:31, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Right, I see. Thank you for that. I agree those templates can be really annoying. I think the best solution would be to program the template so that it excludes a category if it does not exist. I'll see if there's an easy way to do that. Mclay1 (talk) 22:14, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: Actually, that's already the case. If the cinema by decade category doesn't exist for a country, the template won't transclude it. See for example Category:Swiss films by decade. So Category:Paraguayan cinema by decade can be safely deleted and it will disappear from Category:Paraguayan films by decade. Mclay1 (talk) 22:19, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, whatever should have happened in theory, that's not what actually happened in reality. The reason I saw it at all is because the template failed to suppress it, so it turned up on the redlinked category report — had the template behaved as you say, I'd never have seen it on that report, because it wouldn't have shown up as non-empty redlinked category, but it did. Bearcat (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just a case of the database needing time to update? Sometimes categories take a while to stop showing up in places they shouldn't be when templates are involved. Mclay1 (talk) 22:31, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yep, the page just needed a null edit. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:34, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe it's just a case of the database needing time to update? Sometimes categories take a while to stop showing up in places they shouldn't be when templates are involved. Mclay1 (talk) 22:31, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, whatever should have happened in theory, that's not what actually happened in reality. The reason I saw it at all is because the template failed to suppress it, so it turned up on the redlinked category report — had the template behaved as you say, I'd never have seen it on that report, because it wouldn't have shown up as non-empty redlinked category, but it did. Bearcat (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: Actually, that's already the case. If the cinema by decade category doesn't exist for a country, the template won't transclude it. See for example Category:Swiss films by decade. So Category:Paraguayan cinema by decade can be safely deleted and it will disappear from Category:Paraguayan films by decade. Mclay1 (talk) 22:19, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
"Template:Country data Danish Realm" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Template:Country data Danish Realm has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 January 23 § Template:Country data Danish Realm until a consensus is reached. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 07:46, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
Physicians to medical doctors
Following your advice we should Rename Category:Physicians to Medical doctors I made a nomination to do just that. I know at some point there will need to bd renaming a lot of sub-cats but I am hoping the clear indication of the article Rename will allow us to at least get the top article renaned.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:48, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Speedy category rename
Hello, Mclay1,
It looks like the CFD bot, User:JJMC89 bot III, deleted the original category, Category:Wicked (franchise) character redirects to lists, and created Category:The Wicked Years character redirects to lists but it hasn't moved over all of the contents to the new category. I see that you were the editor who proposed this change, are you responsible for handling the implementation or will the bot eventually take care of that over the next week? Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 05:57, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
Medical doctors
Now that Category:Medical doctors by nationality has that name are you going to tag the sub-categories for speedy renaming?John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:00, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
- @Johnpacklambert: Yes, I will get to all the subcategories soon. Mclay1 (talk) 14:13, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
1909 establishments in Oklahoma Territory
Hi, why have you recreated Category:1909 establishments in Oklahoma Territory? What purpose does it serve? I realise that you suggested at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2026 January 28#Category:1909 establishments in Oklahoma Territory to keep a redirect to aid the template navigation
, but nobody else was of that opinion. Indeed, I checked after the deletion, and progressing both forwards from Category:1904 establishments in Oklahoma Territory year by year to Category:1914 establishments in Oklahoma and back again worked just fine. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:48, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Nobody else mentioned it. I created a redirect at that name because it adds a link for that year in the navigation at the top of Category:1906 establishments in Oklahoma Territory and prior categories. We could also add ones for 1910 and 1911 to link those years. Mclay1 (talk) 22:39, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- And so on, ad infinitum. Where would it end? Category:2026 establishments in Oklahoma Territory? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: That wouldn't be needed, because the links at the top of the final Oklahoma Territory category (Category:1906 establishments in Oklahoma Territory) go up to 1911. Mclay1 (talk) 23:04, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
- And so on, ad infinitum. Where would it end? Category:2026 establishments in Oklahoma Territory? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2026 (UTC)
Rename and retitle a Wikipedia article
The company named Walmart Labs has been renamed to Walmart Global Tech. Can you please rename and retitle this wikipedia article to Walmart Global Tech.