User talk:Nevermore27

Hi, Nevermore27. In Special:Diff/1317534093, you edited your comment in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Young Republican group chat leaks after the discussion had been closed. Please understand that discussions should generally not be edited after they are formally closed, as the closed discussion is a record of what the discussion looked like at the time of closure, so I have reverted your edit in Special:Diff/1317665232. Once a discussion has been formally closed, it is too late to change your comment in the discussion. In this case, it does not look like your desired edit would have impacted the outcome of the discussion, which aligns with your current position, so there is no action needed on your part. Thank you. — Newslinger talk 09:42, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

@Newslinger it was an accident, I didn't realize the discussion was closed until I put the edit through. thanks. Nevermore27 (talk) 12:11, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your recent edits to 2012 Washington Supreme Court election when you modified the page, you introduced unknown parameters. Just because you specify |some_param=some_variable does not always mean that variable will display. The |some_param= must be defined in the template. You can look at the documentation for the template you are using but it is also helpful to use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and ensure that the values you have added are displaying correctly. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the page will look like without actually saving it. It is strongly recommended that you use this before saving. Note I have likely fixed the error by now so check the history of the page to see how it was fixed. If you have any questions, contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 21:38, 6 January 2026 (UTC)

"In U.S. politics, an independent Democrat is an individual who loosely identifies with the ideals of the Democratic Party but chooses not to be a formal member of the party (chooses to be an independent) or is denied the Democratic nomination in a caucus or primary election. Independent Democrat is not a political party. Several elected officials, including members of Congress, have identified as independent Democrats."

Also, you agreed to this earlier. So stop throwing accusations around. The first two politicians given on that page are Sanders and King. Stormy160 (talk) 20:03, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

I did not agree to anything. Your edits are not making Wikipedia better. Stop reverting. Nevermore27 (talk) 20:05, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

You don't have sole power. I gave you wikipedia's definition. No opinion involved. Stormy160 (talk) 20:06, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia's definition does not control what shading is used on these pages. Nevermore27 (talk) 20:06, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is supposed to be consistent. Stormy160 (talk) 20:08, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Yes, and using gray for all Democratically-aligned Independent senators is consistent. See Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin. Nevermore27 (talk) 20:10, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

I believe I changed those as well at a certain point, and if I didn't then they should be. I agree we should be consistent but if we are being consistently wrong it should be fixed. Stormy160 (talk) 20:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

What exactly is "consistently wrong"? All four Senators have a note that links to the Independent Democrat wiki page (I just added it for Sinema and Manchin) and correctly identifies them as Independents that caucused with Democrats. We're just arguing over the shading template being used. Nevermore27 (talk) 20:15, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

The shading template is attached to the guide at the bottom. Its contradictory to shade them as one thing in the guide then have a note identifying them as another. Stormy160 (talk) 20:20, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

it is not "identifying them as another", Independent is correct. In Sinema and Manchin's case they left the party, they were no longer Democrats. In King's case he hasn't been a Democrat for 30 years. In Sanders' case he's never been a Democrat. We can note who they ally themselves with, but Independent is correct. Honestly if it were up to me those shadings wouldn't exist at all, it was a mistake to make them. Nevermore27 (talk) 20:28, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

An Independent Democrat is someone who loosely identifies with the party (caucusing with them and even running in their presidential primary is probably more than "loose" if anything) but does not have formal association. That's dead on here. Stormy160 (talk) 22:04, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

@Stormy160 i don't think we're disagreeing on the definition of Independent Democrat as presented on the page. just because that's the case doesn't mean it's beneficial to the reader to see this shade of blue on these tables. "Independent Democrat" is not a party label. Independent and Democrat are. Nevermore27 (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Independent Democrat is one of the party labels in the guide at the bottom of every one of these tables. I don't understand your point. Stormy160 (talk) 23:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

I do agree that you don't understand my point. Nevermore27 (talk) 23:21, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Then try and explain it. Stormy160 (talk) 05:11, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

Also yeah, you reverted part of the edit which I remember discussing in July then the other in September. You thought I wouldn't notice. Stormy160 (talk) 20:06, 26 January 2026 (UTC)