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Redirects you have created have been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 7 § Persia War until a consensus is reached. LIrala (talk) 19:36, 7 April 2026 (UTC)

The Necromancer's Tale moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to The Necromancer's Tale. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing as a live article at this time because it consists of machine-generated text and I want to give a new editor a chance to understand Wikipedia’s WP:NOLLM policy, and to rewrite the article themself in Draftspace before resubmitting.

Hi @StickyMan1982 and welcome to Wikipedia! I’m sorry to draftify your newly created page, but I’m afraid it appears to be AI-generated and the Wikipedia does not allow AI-written articles. I wanted to explain the problems in the article because I hope you’ll stay here at Wikipedia and write and edit yourself instead of using AI. We need editors who are interested in video games. If you are using AI because English is your second language please understand that we prefer typos and grammatical errors to AI because they are FAR easier to correct.

The language in the article is very AI-ish, and scored 59% AI-generated on GPTZero, which is not, of course, always correct. But after carefully checking your text and the sources, I think it would have been difficult for you to write this article without using AI. There is a lot of LLM paraphrasing of sources with slight errors and added hallucinations that sound plausible.

EXAMPLE 1: The description of the trust system as having severe social consequences" is a typical LLM type of paraphrasing where concrete examples are generalized. When I asked ChatGPT to compare the paragraph starting with “Necromancy is a central part of the game's structure” to the source you gave for it, ChatGPT not only noted that the bits about "hex-based battlefields" and "mental states" are not in the source, it also described the closest match in the source to the "mental states" as being the trust system, and it used exactly the vague paraphrasing "social consequences" that I noted above as sounding LLM-ish.

The closest match in the source is this section:

“The decisions we make also affect how much trust other characters place in us… we may start encountering problems… in extreme cases we may fall victim to lynching or be brought to court and sentenced to death.” This describes:

  • A reputation / trust system
  • Social consequences of your actions

EXAMPLE 2:

  • Source (Vice) “Beautifully written dialogue, paired with stylistic portraits, evokes the spirit of Disco Elysium.” (..) “If you’ve been searching for a dark, gritty, and sometimes disgusting RPG to engross yourself in, you can’t go wrong with this one.”[1]
  • Article: “Vice praised its dialogue, visual style, and writing, calling it a dark and engrossing role-playing game and giving it a verdict of "Highly Recommended.”[4]”

Here we see in the generated text in the article first the LLM template of a list with three items, and you also see that the summarised list is LESS SPECIFIC than the source text. The second bit is just wrong - Vice does NOT call it a “dark and engrossing role-playing game”, this is a revising that slightly changes the meaning of the original source - and it’s the kind of paraphrasing that humans don’t usually do. It’s remixing words, not summarising a source for its meaning.

You're a new editor so may not be aware of Wikipedia's prohibition of using LLMs to write articles, so I just wanted to let you know about this. In this case it looks as though the AI-generated material isn't VERY wrong but it is wrong - using LLMs is very risky for an encyclopedia like Wikipedia that aims to be authoritative and that we know will also be used to train new LLMs.

I sent this back to draft to give you a chance to rewrite it. I hope you do so - and PLEASE WRITE IT YOURSELF! . I have converted it to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit the draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Lijil (talk) 08:52, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi - sorry, I ticked the box saying to notify you as well as the page creator, didn't realise it would show up looking as though you created the page! The AI-generated articles take so much time to check, it's a nightmare. The article looked really polished and the topic is notable so I can see why you approved it in AfC. Lijil (talk) 09:00, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
Heya, no worries! I appreciate the heads up nonetheless, as it gives me the chance to double check issues that I missed. Some of the phrasing did seem odd, but I didn't find any immediate issues in the spot checks I performed – obviously I didn't delve deep enough in this instance. Thanks for catching! nil nz 10:21, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

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Request on 00:50:35, 9 April 2026 for assistance on AfC submission by Canada9090

hello this is a kurdish myth creature and there is no other sources i found so thats why i wanted to put everything i know to wikipedia, this is like greek, scandinavian mythology it is allowed on wikipedia because there are a lot of resources around the internet and real life but because kurdish history is not really protected it gets lost very easily. Thanks.

Canada9090 (talk) 00:50, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Canada9090, one of the core policies of Wikipedia is Verifiability, which states:

Wikipedia's content is determined by published information rather than editors' beliefs, experiences, or previously unpublished ideas or information. Even if you are sure something is true, it must have been published in a reliable source before you can add it.

Unless it's been written about in reliable sources, it's not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Sources aren't limited to online sources either; books and journals are also good sources if you can find them. nil nz 01:54, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

Followup on Sockpuppet Investigation on WelpThisIsMyUsername

Hey Nil Niz, I know you made the two sockpuppet investigations and I wanted to update you in case you missed it. The somewhat blatantly sockpuppet account WelpThisIsMyUsername is denying that they're another account of Jaden and appear to be ignoring the recommendations admin had given by making more unconstructive edits, which were very generous/forgiving from admin given just how many accounts the sockpuppeter made. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 00:33, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

@Jack Frost is an experienced SPI clerk and I'm sure is aware of the reply. I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage; I agree with the assessment that this is just a kid doing kids stuff, which – while sometimes disruptive – certainly isn't malicious or ill-intended. As for their claim that they're not the same editor, Jaden is welcome to request an unblock following the instructions left on his talk page.
I have no opinion on the redirect creations; some redirects-from-typos are useful, and these creations will be reviewed by New Page Patrollers anyway, who can escalate if there's an issue. There's just been a handful created thus far, and I see a few of them have already been tagged and deleted, which is a sign the system is working. nil nz 00:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Hi Nil Niz, thanks for the reply. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of it and Im glad admin is too. I do agree its definitely just a kid messing around and that their edits aren't really from a place of spite, though it was kinda getting pretty disruptive/annoying given how active they were with it. Regardless, thanks again for your initial investigation since it saved a lot of talk page discussion time for me and other editors on the stratocracy page. Ill trust admin then to deal with it. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 01:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Hi both, thanks for the note and looping me in. I agree with Nil. I have dropped a message on their talkpage in reply; my overall take is that they've now been given a solid shot across the bow about what's acceptable and what's not, and the ball's now firmly in their court in terms of how they choose to act from here on (I won't be losing any sleep over the connection between the accounts either). Thanks again for both of your work keeping an eye on things. Cheers, Jack Frost (talk) 01:21, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Glad to hear that, I do agree with your overall reading of the situation as well. Yea I guess since the connection is pretty blatant we dont have to worry too much over it. Appreciate both you and Nil for all your work on this. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 01:29, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

AfC Review Request

Hello Nil Niz, I want to ask if you could review my article: article as it is not been noticed for a long time. I understand it might not be fair to other writers, but since I saw that you reviewed a few articles just then, I want to ask for your review, thank you! Welovecontributors! [talk] [contribs] 03:53, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Welovecontributors!, AfC reviewers generally don't perform reviews on request.
Schools are not an area I'm personally interested in or knowledgeable about, so aren't the sort of drafts I particularly seek out. I understand the wait can be disheartening, but rest assured a volunteer will get to it eventually! nil nz 05:58, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Thank you, and I totally understand. Welovecontributors! [talk] [contribs] 06:09, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

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Hello, I was wondering how you found this draft to be LLM generated. Cheers, 🚂ThatTrainGuy1945 Peep peep! 13:46, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Hey @ThatTrainGuy1945, there were a couple of things. First was that a decline template was added when the page was created, which is an error some LLMs make. There were also some WP:LLMSIGNS in the text – such as Seymour was profiled by the American Federation of Musicians, where his work on Ain’t Too Proud and his approach to musical direction were discussed. – which is a classic WP:AIATTR, because it doesn't actually give us any in depth analysis from the source. nil nz 20:37, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

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