User talk:Pygos

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Thank you! I have read these articles. Pygos (talk) 14:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

A JACS paper is not an app. Its just another academic claim. --Smokefoot (talk) 14:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Please pardon my ignorance, but I am confused about what comment you are replying to, but thank you anyways! Pygos (talk) 15:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I was pointing out that

"==Applications==

"Kolbe electrolysis has found applications in converting biomass into biodiesel. It has the advantages of producing hydrogen and bicarbonate as side products.^[1]

"Kolbe electrolysis can also be used for grafting of carbon electrodes.^[2]"

These are not applications. Just 2 of hundreds of mainly academic papers on Kolbe electrolysis. Do we really want general readers to conclude that Kolbe is useful for biomass conversions? . Apologies for being so pushy and rude, but new editors and young chemists rarely understand the predicament we find ourselves in at Wikipedia-Chem: a tidal wave of literature.--Smokefoot (talk) 16:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I see, I will try to include secondary sources as well. Happy editing! Pygos (talk) 01:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I dont want to come across as a complete hypocrite. For specialized topics like tin triphosphide, chromium(VI) oxide peroxide, there is often no option than to cite primaries. But for big topics, I and others strive for secondary (reviews), or better still "tertiary", i.e. textbooks (reviews of reviews). For editing organic, inorganic, and industrial themes, my go-to sources are textbooks/encyclopedia residing on my laptop: March's organic, Greenwood and Earnshaw's inorganic, Ullmann's Industrial Chem. --Smokefoot (talk) 13:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I see. I happen to have read the first book, and I also have access to the other two. I will try to consult the most reliable sources possible. As always, thanks for guiding me on citing sources! Pygos (talk) 05:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Greetings, Smokefoot!

I am currently having some trouble in adding organic reaction schemes onto articles, with the questions specified below:

1, I am unsure of what format to use for the reaction schemes. I am currently editing Wikipedia on a mobile device (Android). I have read the following articles:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Chemistry/Structure drawing and Molecule editor, and it seems that there are no listed chemical editing devices suitable for Android. I currently use Kingdraw to draw chemical reaction schemes. I am not sure if that is acceptable. A sample of what Kingdraw reaction schemes look like is shown below:

(Note:this image was taken via screenshot, I am not sure if this is acceptable for Wikipedia articles)

2, I am unsure of what copyright status should the reaction schemes from literature (like the one above) be published under. Can they be uploaded onto Wikimedia Commons, or are they considered others work and not of Public Domain even if I redraw them? From the articles that I have seen, it seems that the reaction images are all under the Creative Commons licenseship and labeled as "own work".

I highly appreciate your efforts in responding these questions above.

Sincerely, Pygos Pygos (talk) 12:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Pyrgos. I noticed your recent additions to Azulene. The use of .jpg files makes for serious problems, as indeed can be seen above in this thread with the screenshot, which in my full-size computer monitor sends the image off the right of the screen. We much prefer .svg files for chemical diagrams and .png files are also acceptable but less good as they don't scale as well on different devices. If you use .jpg, then you must include the "thumb" parameter as I have done here on the right. I could work with you to produce the chemical drawings needed: for example by collaborating in one of your sandboxes, if your Android device can't use any of the drawing programs mentioned at MOS:CSDG. Thoughts? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

I've now looked at the website for Kingdraw. They suggest that it can produce industry-standard output files for the drawings. Does that include the sketch file format (.skc) originally specified by Molecular Design Limited or Microsoft's enhanced metafile .emf? If so, then converting these to .svg is easy for me to do and collaboration would be simple. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out! I have found that kingdraw can generate files of kdx mol molV3000 cdx png jpg formats. Which formats are acceptable? I will also revert my edits on azulene temporarily to prevent confusion. Pygos (talk) 12:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, .kdx files are Kingdraw's own proprietary format, so not useful external to that program. Mol and molV3000 are now open source (they were invented by MDL) but only work for a single molecule. ChemSpider, for example, allows you to download any molecule from their database in that format, so you would never need to draw from scratch anything you found on Chemspider. CDX files are ChemDraws proprietary format which can't be used directly within Wikipedia but would work as a way to share files between ourselves by email, since I can convert them to .skc files and hence to .svg. .png and .jpg are standard for any image, not just chemistry but lose all chemical connectivity information, so while you can go .skc / .cdx / .kdx to .png or .jpg, it is impossible to go the other way! Bottom line: if you are uploading files for use in Wikipedia, you should always use .png files for chemistry, never .jpg, and make sure you set pixel widths (or use "|thumb") when you place the diagram into a Wikipedia article. As I mentioned before, this is less than ideal because as Help:Pictures says, we prefer not to force images to have a specific size as they don't always look good on all the devices used by readers. SVG files are vector graphics and have many advantages: they are usually very small and they can be edited in a text editor or by free software such as Inkscape. I have uploaded dozens of chemistry files as .svg conforming to MOS:CSDG: see my files on Commons. The chemistry ones use ACS settings as specified in our manual of style and look very good even when viewed at small size. For now, I suggest you go back and delete all your .jpg and upload .png instead. Note also that Commons is chasing you about copyright issues. You must make it clear where you got the image from and whether it is your own work (which means you drew it yourself in some image-generating program) or is a derivative of a published work: the latter only being OK if you quote the source and can confirm that the source stipulates it is released under a valid CC license (as many but not all modern journal articles are). Apologies that this is a long post but I'm afraid the learning curve on Wikipedia is steep! Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed explanation! I will try my best to adhere to the standard practices of Wikipedia. I will put my sandbox here so we can communicate more easily:

User:Pygos/sandbox Pygos (talk) 16:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Fine. No hurry. Note that you can contact me by email (via my userpage) if we end up needing to exchange files. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Greetings, Smokefoot! I have another minor question on citing sources. For instance, if I were to cite Sciencemadness Wiki, a tertiary source, should I cite the wiki itself or the citation link on the wiki which would lead to a secondary source? I appreciate your reply. Pygos (talk) 03:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I think that Smokefoot and I will have similar views, which is that the clue is in the name. Wikis are never reliable sources in themselves, although they may cite ones that are. They are user-generated and like IMDb, even if they are extensively used by readers they have no guarantee of accuracy e.g. because at any given moment a vandal may have inserted misleading information. I took a look at a random page on Sciencemadness and was given this one on potassium hydroxide which has no references at all, despite clearly being a very well researched and important compound! In other respects that page was similar to potassium hydroxide, especially in the Chembox. Draw your own conclusion: mine is that Sciencemadness should not be touched with a ten foot pole. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Hmmm...I see your point. Thanks for helping out! Pygos (talk) 13:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

See also my thread today at WT:WikiProject Chemistry#Sciencemadness.org. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:57, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for you help with the organic catalysis articles. Some are dated. Most consist mainly of primary references: the area is so mature that our articles could be rely almost exclusively on books and major reviews. Many of the articles imply applications when in fact almost none exist. Some promote various "pioneers". So, good luck dealing with this huge, sprawling topic.--Smokefoot (talk) 13:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your support! I will take a careful look at these articles. Pygos (talk) 23:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

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Please remove this image for me, as I am unable to add the {{Db-author}tag to it for some reason. Thank you! Pygos (talk) 11:59, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for pointing out! However, this image is based on a previous, slightly erroneous version by another Wikipedian under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0, (

), so I am not exactly sure under which copyright status should my image be. Pygos (talk) 11:47, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SafariScribe was:

A disambiguation page isn't needed since they aren't related.

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Pygos! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Greetings,Safari Scribe! My intent for creating this disambiguation page is mainly to differentiate between lithium acetylide and tetralithium carbide, which are often referred to the same name as lithium carbide: https://www.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_EN_CB79852924.htm

https://www.americanelements.com/lithium-carbide-1070-75-3

If you deem these two topics to be too remotely related to have a disambiguation page created, what would you suggest me to do in order to clear up the possible confusion? Thank you! Pygos (talk) 11:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

The best way is by using WP:HATNOTES. I can only see "tetralithium carbide", which is quite different to get a traffic for people searching only about the "lithium Carbide". Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I will fix it. Thank you! Pygos (talk) 10:42, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

An errant mouse click caused me to revert all of your changes to the carbohydrate article. Sorry about that, it was unintentional. I have restored your changes. It appears you may have been merging in material from carbohydrate chemistry. Please continue. ~Anachronist (talk) 10:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

No worries! Pygos (talk) 11:02, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

So would the article Carbohydrate chemistry be removed in case of merging? Pygos (talk) 11:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

The article title would be converted to a redirect. You can do this yourself, in fact. When you finish merging the material, just replace the entire contents of the carbohydrate chemistry article with a single line:

#REDIRECT [[Carbohydrate]]

Or if you want to be more specific, you can redirect it to a section:

#REDIRECT [[Carbohydrate#Carbohydrate chemistry]]

(of course, don't include the <nowiki> tags in the source, like I did above to illustrate what to do).

That way, any existing link to carbohydrate chemistry won't break, but people clicking on it would be redirected to the carbohydrate article automatically. ~Anachronist (talk) 12:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I see. Thank you! Pygos (talk) 12:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Greetings, Safari Scribe! I am trying to split the article Red phosphorus from that of Allotropes of phosphorus. What have I done wrong that didn't adhere to the procedures of article splitting? The copyright problem is indeed very serious and I have not noticed it while pasting it from the original page. I will reword both right away. Pygos (talk) 09:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

I would like to add a question. As the original content on Allotropes of phosphorus didn't face copyright warnings, could it be that Indiamart pasted Wikipedia content directly onto their page? Pygos (talk) 10:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

If India mart copied Wikipedia, then the copyvio isn't needed and will be overlooked. I will check it in the Wayback to know which first existed. Above that, you need to add more content like you did in White phosphorus, reword the split, add more citations. I trust you always write well. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! 36.231.64.120 (talk) 11:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Greetings, Safari Scribe! I was very confused by this statement on a book: "Several crystalline forms of red phosphorus exist. Hittorf’s phosphorus (also called violet phosphorus) is a well-characterized form of the red allotrope"Housecroft, Catherine (2018). Inorganic Chemistry (5th ed.). Pearson. p. 511. ISBN 978-1-292-13414-7.

The current image of red phosphorus's structure doesn't do a good job in illustrating its difference from violet phosphorus. Is it true that violet phosphorus is simply a crystalline form of red phosphorus (which is supposedly amorphous)? If so, perhaps structural changes have to be made to this article. I would like to hear your opinions on this.

Pygos (talk) 11:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pygos, it's correct. Were you talking about this image anyway? There exist several crystalline forms of red phosphorus and Hittorf’s phosphorus is one of them, although it is an allotrope listed along the white and the red. In this publication, They said, "Red phosphorus usually exists as an amorphous form and can be transformed to crystalline red phosphorus (called Hittorf's or violet phosphorus)." My understanding is that the violet phosphorus is gotten from the red one and comes in a crystalline form. If stated otherwise in the article, then remove it. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Actually, it's this image:

, which I believe is the indistinguishable from this image about violet phosphorus:

Pygos (talk) 12:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

So should I put violet phosphorus (along with the other crystal form fibrous red phosphorus) under the article red phosphorus? Pygos (talk) 12:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pygos, violet phosphorus is another allotrope of phosphorus like the white. However it's gotten from the crystalline form of the red phosphorus. If there is a need to mention it in the draft, it's fine. Please calm down, breathe, and write adequately because there is no deadline. Pygos, to say this now, write everything you want to write—with proper citations—and I'll review it from the sources you cited. I am becoming leader like, "Pygos, fast! Let me accept the draft immediately". Also note that confusion may arise but it's nothing, chemistry changes a bit and we have experts that can also correct a few things later. Forget about the old writing you may have seen there and face the current reality from your newly identified references; they're the key. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pygos, I found this source. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:04, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I will take my time. It seems that I cannot access your source through Wikilibrary because I am not yet a six months user though (to be fair, I am still quite a noob). May you send it via DOI (so I can access it through Scihub) or any other means? Thank you! Pygos (talk) 02:19, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I emailed you, so, reply me and I will forward the PDF file for you. Cheers! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, please send the PDF file. Greatly appreciated. Pygos (talk) 04:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Have you sent the PDF file yet? It seems that I haven't received it. Pygos (talk) 05:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I have sent it but I can't even see what I sent in my "sent messages". It will be best you send you paste your email, and I will forward it. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 05:43, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Greetings, Safari Scribe! I am curious about how you detected the content overlap with Indiamart? I have recently been granted a trial of the NPP right and want to check such aspects. Thanks! Pygos (talk) 06:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations. Read Wikipedia:Copyright violations to find tools that can help you. Also, this tool helps. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Do you have any additional advice or useful tools about NPP that may be helpful? Pygos (talk) 13:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I am recently concerned about content generated by AI showing up on new articles. Are there any tools that may help detect those? Pygos (talk) 08:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think that there is any tool for that, but texts generated by AI is purely known; it'd reflects the reading. I would advise neutralising or removing in whole. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 08:25, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, but can you explain what you mean by "texts generated by AI is purely known; it'd reflects the reading."? Pygos (talk) 08:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

You'll know when you see contents written by AI, hence remove immediately. That's what I meant. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 08:52, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for answering! Pygos (talk) 09:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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		For thoughtful and helpful contributions illustrated by White phosphorus Smokefoot (talk) 13:29, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Pygos (talk) 13:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Please take a look at the discussion on the page Allotropes of phosphorus on red phosphorus and express your opinions, thanks. Pygos (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

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Reconrabbit 16:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Greetings, Reconrabbit! I will fix the citations problem asap. However, is it that image captions are necessary for every image? Some images that have no captions are described by the syntax above, like:

"The structure of red phosphorus contains the fragments illustrated below:

"

Some images depict the same thing as the image below it, just from a different angle to help understanding, which I doubt would require its own captions:

"It adopts the following structure:

" Pygos (talk) 01:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

And yes, I have added the image captions in the draft submitted, but your answer to the above question will still be greatly appreciated. Pygos (talk) 11:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks! I will try out the new tools. Pygos (talk) 03:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

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Aren't they considered tertiary sources, just like textbooks? I do have a textbook reference to this topic, though it is in Chinese.Pygos (talk) 01:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Greetings, Rosguill! I'm wondering if you may extend my trial or have it delayed for a month. I'm a 12th grader and is currently busy preparing for the Chemistry Olympiads, so I may not keep up as vigorous a reviewing schedule as what might have been expected. However, I do promise becoming more active again after November when the competition is over. Thank you! Pygos (talk) 15:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello! @Pygos It looks like an incorrect template has been added to your user page. The current template suggests something that’s not consistent with your account’s history, such as the citation from 2007, even though you joined only five months ago. Please review and correct the template to ensure it accurately reflects your profile. 𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 12:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

ohh! My bad. I intended it to be humorous, but if it is causing any problems, I'll remove it immediately. Pygos (talk) 12:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Keller's reagent (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either

• disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
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Greetings, the corresponding red links are already in AfC, please take off the Speedy deletion tag. Pygos (talk) 08:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

And by that I mean, already for AfC review, thank you. Pygos (talk) 08:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Keller's reagent (metallurgy) & Draft:Keller's reagent (organic) Pygos (talk) 08:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

oops, I didn't know that I could set up a discussion that way, sorry. Pygos (talk) 13:23, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Asilvering was:

Not required - for disambiguation between only two pages, only a hatnote is required. We also already have a page at Keller's reagent.

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asilvering (talk) 21:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I marked it for speedy deletion. Pygos (talk) 01:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

FYI, AFCH borked on moving Borax combo to mainspace; the AfC templates were still there. No worries, I'll clean it up. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC) (added words at 03:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC))

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Hi Pygos, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the new page reviewer user right to your account. This means you now have access to the page curation tools and can start patrolling pages from the new pages feed. If you asked for this at requests for permissions, please check back there to see if your access is time-limited or if there are other comments.

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Overall I think you did well on your trial run, but since you asked for trial feedback, I will point out the following:

• ARKA descriptors in QSAR almost certainly shouldn't be at that title. ARKA descriptors, ARKA descriptor, or possibly even just ARKA may be more appropriate.
• Borax combo could probably benefit from a {{sections}} tag, which I've gone ahead and done
• For Fibre Chemistry, it would be good to create redirects for the Russian name (both transliterated and Cyrillic), which are given in the article (I've now done this). In addition to being helpful to future readers, it also effectively has you check whether someone has already created the article at those titles (and prevents anyone from doing that in the future)
• EarthScope Consortium has some COI red flags, and reads a bit promotional on top of that. I've added relevant tags and notified the editors in question. This was also an article you accepted out of AfC, but in general if you come across an article that looks like this, was created/submitted by very new or otherwise clearly WP:SPA accounts, and wasn't accepted through AfC, you should be sending it to draftspace and warning the editors about COI or UPE (depending on which you think is more probable).

_signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! Pygos (talk) 12:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

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