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Happy editing! JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 14:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Sapphaline

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Sophisticatedevening, and I thank you for your contributions.

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Sophisticatedevening^(talk) 13:20, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

I can't tell from code, and nocachein'g the js file didn't seem to matter? Thanks for trying to help keep it all clean. The talk is a circus. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 16:19, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

I don't use it so I don't know. Perhaps manual archiving is the only possible way here. Sapphaline (talk) 16:19, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

I bet it's reading the archive config and it's set for a max size of 512k:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk/Archive_2&action=history

That's not there yet. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 16:24, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Fixed. Sapphaline (talk) 16:26, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Ha, ok, turning down the archive size works too. I figured that was default, I just had turned it from 3d (excessive for current situation) to 12h. I guess we'll see next one. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 16:30, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Actually archive 2 is still below the threshold. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 16:31, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Looks like we got it sorted:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk&diff=prev&oldid=1310973750
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Killing_of_Charlie_Kirk/Archive_4&oldid=1310973737

Good eye on that for what you saw. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 16:44, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

Nevermind, now I have no idea. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 16:46, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

It's gotta be, only logical thing unless the volume/caching/EC's are that busted. Let them roll to archive 2, for now. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 16:26, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKilling_of_Charlie_Kirk&diff=1311153953&oldid=1311153701 FYI. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 19:07, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

There's currently a Misnested tag with different rendering in HTML5 and HTML4 linter error on this page related to the <q> somewhere in the code, which template:tq produces. Sapphaline (talk) 19:08, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

I'd suggest posting a new comment section to ask for experienced editors to look rather than editing others content, or ask on the tq talk page. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 19:09, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (talk page watcher) Editing others' comments to fix lint errors is fine, its pretty common. They didn't change what they said at all, just the formatting. Tenshi! (Talk page) 19:10, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

Where are you all even seeing those? I use monobook skin? It just looked like a plain old tq quote. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 19:13, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

special:pageinfo/Talk:Killing of Charlie Kirk. Sapphaline (talk) 19:13, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

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Hello; please take a moment to read over WP:INVOLVED. It's important editors don't close discussions they started that have ongoing discussion or involve possibly contentious matters such as at ANI. An uninvolved admin will close the thread when appropriate. Best, CoconutOctopus talk 12:22, 6 October 2025 (UTC)

I have reverted your changes to Template:ArbComOpenCase. This follows a dedicated format (including the height of subheadings) as approved by the Committee. Changes should be run through the clerks and/or the Committee, who will make changes to these templates themselves. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 09:30, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Any place where I can discuss my changes? Sapphaline (talk) 09:32, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

The Clerks noticeboard. Daniel (talk) 09:33, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

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• What do you mean by "not constructive"??? That </ul> was intentional because the previous list wasn't closed otherwise. sapphaline (talk) 18:25, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

  You left behind a stray </ul> tag that did not have a corresponding opening tag, and you inserted {{ubl}} in a place where it caused div tags to be unmatched, all without doing any testing in the sandbox or on the testcases page. All of this in a live template that is transcluded in 110 articles, causing Linter errors to appear in all of those articles. Please be more careful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:58, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

  Here we are again. You pulled the same stunt at Template:Vertical bar chart, causing Linter errors in dozens of articles. Edit in the sandbox first, then use the testcases page to check for errors. If you are unable to follow this basic procedure, I will request that your template editor privileges be revoked. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:50, 28 December 2025 (UTC)

  Why do you think anyone's going to ban me from editing templates over 2 (minor) mistakes made in a time span of 2 months? sapphaline (talk) 09:35, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

  And you could just fix it yourself instead of biting me. sapphaline (talk) 09:52, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

  It sounds like you need to re-read the template editor guidelines. Please do so. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:48, 29 December 2025 (UTC)

Template:Nonstandard list has been nominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 10:38, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

Hello Sapphaline.

In your partial reversion of one of my edits to Demographics of Germany you were good enough to provide an edit summary, which said, "these are not row headers though". You removed scope="row" from the left-hand cells on several tables. But of course they are row headers. To find the life expectancy by period for 1960–1965, one looks in the Life expectancy in years for Germany, 1950–2015, by five-year period table for the row headed "1960–1965", and on that line we see "70.0" (the data in the Life expectancy column).

I did make at least one mistake with a column heading in another table; thank you for correcting it to !scope="col"| Life expectancy. But the widespread removal of scope="row" seems incorrect to me. How can they not be headers? — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 22:27, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

they are row headers - how so when the "1960-1965" cell in your example is already named by the "Period" column header? sapphaline (talk) 10:42, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

The "Period" column header is the header for the column containing "1960-1965". The "1960-1965" row heading is the heading for the row containing "70.0". — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 22:19, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

It appears that your proposed split has gained consensus. Once you have finished with all the splitting etc., the new pages will all need to be protected per WP:CTOP. Either ping me or post a request at WP:RfPP. FWIW, I think the split is overdue. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:26, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Hello Sapphaline. I'm just letting you know that I closed the split proposal you started a month ago with consensus to split. Feel free to start splitting the article. {{being split}} didn't display properly, so I left {{split}} in place. Chess enjoyer (talk) 04:40, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Whoops, didn't see @Ad Orientem's post! Chess enjoyer (talk) 04:48, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

@Chess enjoyer No worries. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:50, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Done. sapphaline (talk) 09:59, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for carrying out the split. Your edit summaries at the new child articles are probably compliant with the Wikimedia Terms of Use for copying content, but just to make sure, why not follow our WP:Copying within Wikipedia guideline next time, and use these words when copying content (large or small) to other articles, in order to fulfill the required attribution to the original authors:

Copied content from [[Page name]]; see source page's history for attribution.

No need to add additional attribution to the edit summaries of the child pages at this point; just something to keep in mind for next time. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 05:35, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

PLEASE make sure you use edit summaries, particularly when you are modifying someone else's comment as you did here. I totally understand why you moved their comment... But without an edit summary, that can be concerning. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 18:31, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Mind explaining why you did this edit on my talk page without a reason? Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 15:12, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Because this emoji overlaps page action buttons in Monobook, and I wanted to hide it in my common.css.

Also, edits can't be "unauthorized". sapphaline (talk) 15:15, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

Because this emoji overlaps page action buttons in Monobook even if it overlaps it, it's not your talk page, and you shouldn't have done that. A better option would have been telling me to do the edit instead. Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 15:17, 16 January 2026 (UTC)

+1 Mind explaining this new edit as well? As above, you could have just requested the edit via communicating with me on my talk page. I'm going to ask you to disengage from further edits without requesting me (even if it was done in WP:GF). If you continue with such behavior, I'm afraid I will have to bring this to ANI. ^NeoSyria\Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 02:53, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Ownership of content. sapphaline (talk) 07:22, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

WP:OWN has nothing to do with any talk page; No one, no matter what, has the right to act as if they are the owner of a particular article (or any part of it) My talk page is my talk page, it is not your talk page, it is not yours to hold responsibility, and it is not an article. ^NeoSyria\Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 07:26, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

"it is not an article" -

Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit. Nevertheless, they are not personal homepages, and are not owned by the user. They are still part of Wikipedia and must serve its primary purposes; in particular, user talk pages make communication and collaboration among editors easier. These functions must not be hampered by ownership behavior.

- Wikipedia:Ownership of content#User pages

sapphaline (talk) 07:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

These functions must not be hampered by ownership behavior Nevertheless, I haven't ever declared to be the "owner" of my talk page, even if you think I implied; I'm not tolerant of people randomly editing someone else's talk page beyond discussion that in some cases, are unexplained, even with WP:OWN. Disengaging. ^NeoSyria\Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 07:43, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to affect more than today's account, and seems like it might affect someone unrelated, too... ~Lofty abyss 09:22, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

Could you revoke their talk page access then? sapphaline (talk) 09:23, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

@Lofty abyss: special:contributions/~2026-40194-5. sapphaline (talk) 10:24, 19 January 2026 (UTC)

See Template:Textdiff. Polygnotus (talk) 15:19, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Sapphaline: I was going to post about this, but I see Polygnotus beat me to it. Nevertheless, I will expand on it. When you raised WP:VPP § Proposal #2, you included a Current Text – New Text comparison. Bravo; that is a great way to show what you want changed. However, the method you chose to do the side-by-side comparison—a home-brew Html table—was a big headache, as the code had numerous errors which screwed up syntax highlighting for the entire rest of the discussion (and for all subsequent discussions on the page). There were multiple problems, including doubly-embedded <ins> tags, unterminated Html tags, invalid sequencing (nesting order) of Html end tags, and others. (Note that if you are used to dropping final <tr>, <th>, or <td> tags on Html pages, this is very fragile on mediawiki Talk pages, so if you *must* use Table Html in wikicode, please make sure you end every Html tag, and in proper nesting sequence. And don't nest <ins> tags.

I made one attempt to fix it (diff), and it did fix the highlighting problem, but somewhere I screwed up the indentation, and it was just too squirrely to spend any more time on, so I self-reverted. So now, the bad code is back again, and that page will continue to have broken syntax highlighting until the Rfc is finally archived, who knows when.

In the future, as Polygnotus said much more briefly, please use Template:Text diff. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:24, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

@Mathglot Why is broken html actually important on a discussion page? It doesn't bother my computer; the page loads just fine. Even if it doesn't, I've seen the result of linter errors - and they tend to just make the page harder to read? But it's trivial to workaround. I'm not sure what relevance syntax highlighting has - it's a wonderful convenience for those who chose to use it, sure, but not, overall, that big of a deal when it breaks, especially given that it's just a discussion page. And, obvs, if it's not breaking the archive, it hardly seems worth caring about. Hardly headache worthy! GreenLipstickLesbian💌🧸 06:05, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

<tr>, <th> and <td> don't require an end tag; that's also why my comment is clean of linter errors. Also, what's wrong with nested <ins>? sapphaline (talk) 08:17, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

In Html pages, you are correct, they do not. Wikicode is not an Html page. If you want to do it your way, I can't stop you. I've told you what happens when you do, I've give you a working alternative that is also simpler to code and easier for non-Html coders to understand. What you do now, is up to you. Mathglot (talk) 10:48, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

Hiya! Can i has the list plox. polygnotuswiki gmail.com Thanks! Polygnotus (talk) 16:16, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

What domains? sapphaline (talk) 16:18, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

The .is thing. Polygnotus (talk) 16:21, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

All alternative archive.today domain names are in its article's infobox. Is this what you wanted? sapphaline (talk) 16:23, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

No, you said you did a dump of the archived domains. I would like that dump. It is available from archive.is/alldomains, but that currently shows an error page. Looking at the various archiving services you can see they used to be listed there. Polygnotus (talk) 16:25, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

plox.polygnotuswiki@gmail.com? sapphaline (talk) 16:33, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

Nah just    polygnotuswiki gmail.com    Thanks,   Polygnotus (talk) 16:34, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

Sent. By the way, I didn't use the /alldomains endpoint. sapphaline (talk) 16:42, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Got it. Polygnotus (talk) 00:10, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

You should join us over at WP:AIT where all the cool people hang out. Polygnotus (talk) 20:06, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

@Polygnotus, where all the cool people hang out is very promotional. SeaDragon1 (talk, contributions) 15:59, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

@SeaDragon1 Yup, that was the intention. You are invited too, SeaDragons are also cool people. Polygnotus (talk) 16:03, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

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The permission has been granted temporarily and will expire in 3 months. Arcticocean ■ 22:21, 9 February 2026 (UTC)

As the previous two page protections didn't seem to deter the recent vandal from coming back, I've re-protected your user talk page for a longer period. Please let me know if you'd prefer a shorter duration. Feel free to keep or remove the page protection template; having it isn't obligatory :). Best regards, Arcticocean ■ 19:30, 21 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi Sapphaline: You have been re-doing the archive links at Kpop Demon Hunters, and I'm thinking if this type of archiving would help on the Trump page as well; maybe you could take a look. ErnestKrause (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

There are no archive.today links on this page. sapphaline (talk) 07:59, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

And it seems like no archive links at all. Someone should run IABot on it. sapphaline (talk) 07:59, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

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Consider moving the content of to a user subpage, that really doesn't need to be on the page directly. Izno (talk) 19:04, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

Done. sapphaline (talk) 19:10, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

That's exactly why we WP:DENY =) Not denying gives them more reason to try to find workarounds. – LuniZunie_(talk) 17:21, 10 March 2026 (UTC)