User talk:Sattvic7

You mentioned overkill in your edit summary. Why? Shitush (talk) 16:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

You can ignore the above blocked contributor. However, I have reverted you at that article because the issue I raised originally, and which you overturned, was one of WP:OVERCITE, amongst other things. I suppose overciting is a form of overkill but I'm just clarifying.

If you read the section about Varna status, you will see that the core point is already in the article anyway. It really isn't a good idea to have that sort of thing scattered throughout an article because it is very frequently contentious. - Sitush (talk) 07:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Citations were of verifiable historical mentions. (Redacted) removed personal attack by impersonating account. Abecedare (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

See this for dispute resolution. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Massive_citations_deletion_on_Kayastha_page

MY REPLY STARTS HERE: @Sitush: You had earlier removed (find the edit here : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kayastha&diff=952116428&oldid=952115854&diffmode=source) an important part of the article stating the following: "start again, please - always suspicious when someone has to compound a large number of sources to make a simple point, and those srcs do not appear to be claiming "many" did but rather "a few" did."

I had through immense research put those sources and information there to bring to forefront some neutral historical facts. I thought may be you have a problem with WP:OVERCITE or having too many sources. Thus, I removed some sources to satisfy you. Seems that you still have problem. Can you elaborate what exact suspicion do you have with this particular edit except that they are absolutely reliable and relevant? Have you even gone through sources to make a claim of suspicion? I'd rather recommend having discussion/talk on WP article before making controversial reverts. Kindly don't engage in vandalism and useless edit wars! Sattvic7 (talk) 12:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

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Dear Sattvic, I can understand your concern and where you are coming from. However, kindly refrain from edit warring. I hope you understand as well what I am trying to point out here. I request you to use the talk page available instead of undoing the edits directly. In the end, I will have no option other than complaining about it to the administrators and bringing about extended protection for the page. I beg you once again.

I see, you have used a reference as to someone from Vallabh (Gujarat) belonging to Kshatriyahood. Is that North India? Of course, not. In such a situation, your intentions are clear. I beg you to stop maligning the status. Ayushsinha2222 (talk) 17:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

@Ayushsinha2222: Hi, Ayush, I hope you are aware of the fact that the pages Bengali Kayastha and Kayastha already exist where you could've easily posted your content (which was related to Bengali Kayastha. It is common knowledge that this page Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha was created to focus on North Indian Kayasthas. So it must be the responsibility of editors to not load the page with content that is not overtly about other Kayastha groups. Of course, it is acceptable to give a passing reference to to other groups or information provided (as you have pointed out in the case of Vallabh Kayastha) provided it is very brief and concise. I am a Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha myself and have contributed immensely to this page through proper research. I suggest you to put your content on Bengali Kayastha or Kayastha. Have a good day. Sattvic7 (talk) 18:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ayushsinha2222:

@Sattvic7: Dear Sattvic, I am extremely sorry for having done that. I am so grateful to you for all that you have done for this page. It's just because of you that this page is so informational now. I acknowledge your priceless contribution. At the same time, I am delighted to have come across you as well. Please carry on; in view of your suggestions, I have removed the content now, except for a couple of sentences. You can remove them as well if you think them inappropriate.

Once again, my sweet friend, I thank you so much for all that you have done. Lots of love! Take care of yourself.

Ayushsinha2222 (talk) 18:41, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Sattvic7:

@Ayushsinha2222: Great. Sattvic7 (talk) 08:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear Sir, @Sattvic7, is it possible to get this page extended protection in the future if it's subject to incessant vandalisms? It seems people more interested in caste-glorification than in unbiased facts have come up with new accounts. One of them removed a small part of the content as well.

I hope you are well over there. I am enlivened by your work. My words to fail to describe how grateful I am to you. I thank you so much for all your hard work. Take care of yourself.

Ayushsinha2222 (talk) 21:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

user:Ayushsinha2222 aap sahi hain. Caste glorification ek mahapaap hai isiliye aapki baat ko sar aankho par rakh kar, mai yeh kadam uthane ja raha. Asha karta hoon yeh app ko aur aap jaise buddhijiviyo ko enliven karega. Ramdhari Singh (talk) 05:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ramdhari Singh: If there are disputes the best way to resolve is to create a section for talk on Talk:Chitraguptavanshi Kayasthaand put your points there. And please write in English, you're on English Wikipedia. Otherwise edit warring may lead actions by moderators. I hope you're aware that WP:ACDS are already authorized for the page. And @Ayushsinha2222: I'm not sure about extended protection Read: WP:PP Sattvic7 (talk) 05:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

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We have added reference from oxford university. Feedback invited. Kayastha Shiromany (talk) 15:31, 3 March 2021 (UTC) Blocked for sockpuppetry. Heba Aisha (talk) 06:43, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kayastha Shiromany: Hey, thanks for your edit and pardon for my late reply. I think that content related to varna status of Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha deserves a separate section in itself (and I have planned to create the section discussing this controversial issue for sometime). In that case, your content would be more suited under "varna-status" section. If you consent, I'd move your edit to the varna-status section on Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha at a later stage of development of this article OR you can create that section yourself if you are confident enough. Have a god day Sattvic7 (talk) 05:17, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kayastha Shiromany: Hi, I have recently removed some content that seems to be talking about CKPs (Kayasthas of Maharashtra) in particular. We want this article to be relevant only to North Indian Kayasthas i.e excluding CKPs and Bengali Kayasthas as there are separate pages dedicated to both of them. Sattvic7 (talk) 16:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Dear Sir, it seems we need extended protection for the page.

Ayushsinha2222 (talk) 20:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm a little busy nowadays, but will surely look into it soon. Sattvic7 (talk) 18:50, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

You are treading on thin ice. Go on with your copying history from sources. Dont stir touchy subjects. Ninja Roti (talk) 14:05, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I am myself a Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha and cautious with my sources, do you have a PhD to be cautious with yours? or anything to say that satisfies the WP:RS? If you disagree with any piece of source or information then you should discuss that on the Talk:Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha instead of trying to intimidate me or consistently trying delete WP:RS cited in the article. I have access to JSTOR, Project MUSE and what not, plus I know I have seen enough of red-link users like you, they get banned every now and then for foolishly reverting sourced pieces of information without prior discussion. Sattvic7 (talk) 15:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Kindly take a look at Talk:Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha#Chitraguptavanshi Kayasthas consider themselves a separate varna. Sattvic7 (talk) 15:41, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

You are not a Kayastha, that I am sure of. I have gone through your edit history. Traitors like you are a two penny a piece on wikipedia hiding behind false pretences. I have seen what you and your friends have done on Bengali Kayastha and Kulin Kayastha. You and your cheap buddies are a disgrace. You are only inviting trouble. Ninja Roti (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I have not even touched the pages Bengali Kayastha and Kulin Kayastha, but those who are cleverly plotting against Kayastha mus've edited those pages. Most of my edits are on Awadhi language, the article I created Barahmasa and now this. I was the first man on entire WP to bring to notice that Kayasthas are mentioned in the inscriptions of Kushan Empire. Otherwise, some Brahmins had already had upped their propaganda that how Kayastha came out of Mughal officials despite the fact that Kayastha history dates back to Kushan and Gupta Era. As I cannot be everywhere at any given time, for some days I'll be focusing onChitraguptavanshi Kayastha. I'm currently trying to collect reliable info on British era history of Chitragupta Kayastha. After that I'll shift to Kayastha adn improve other articles too. All I can say that, Kayastha history is more glorious than Rajputs or Brahmins. Sattvic7 (talk) 16:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I knew that you were not a Kayastha and now I know that you are one of those Brahmin hating conmen. That explains your actions. Keep your sob sister story for some dimwit. You have a dozen of sockpuppet account and Ayushsinha2222 is one of them which just reverted my edits. I live in Noida and I dare you to meet me. If you are a Kayastha like you say you are, you will benefit from the meeting. But I know that all your pretences will be exposed. Ninja Roti (talk) 17:33, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Brahmin hating conmen? Sorry, if I hurt your sentiment but I don't hate anyone including the Brahmins. They are great people and contributed immensely to the Indian history. But before making these allegations against me, have you tried to read a few books on the Kayasthas? I don't write random things. I just cite things that scholars, historians and others researchers have already published in reputed journals, books and articles in accordance with Wikipedia's guidelines.. I suggest you to read the following books, (if you want to know about Kayasthas)

- Romila Thapar's -- Past Before Us (2013)

- Chitrarekha Gupta's -- The writer's class of ancient India (1983)

- Meera Vishwanathan's -- From "Lekhaka" to "Kayastha" (2014)

- Formation of Colonial State in India -- Hayden Bellenoit (2017)

- Hindustani Kayasthas -- by Lucy Caroll Stout.(1976)

- Kayasthas of Hyderabad -- by Karen Leonard. (1994)

Nothing more to say! Sigh! Have a good day. Better to stay indoors in this pandemic Take care. Sattvic7 (talk) 18:57, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

And yeah I am a Kayastha from a well-to-do family. There's nothing that can take away this fact. It's for this love of my community that I have researched nigh and day into origins of my community. If you think I am wrong in some places, feel free to discuss it. I am an open minded person. I would have loved to meet you but I live too far away from Noida Sattvic7 (talk) 19:01, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I have made a small change on the page. Kindly rectify it if it's inappropriate in some way or other. Thank you. I hope you are keeping safe. Advaita2222 (talk) 16:09, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Sattvic7 can u go through the talk page of karana caste I've provided some additional details regarding the community along with a source which could be added in the social status section of that article,the information provided is regarding the historical development of karana as a community during Eastern Ganga rule in Odisha, your help would be greatly acknowledged. AuthenticSources2546 (talk) 07:13, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@AuthenticSources2546: Sure.

Hey you can add details about this king who declared independence from kakatiya rule in the kayastha page, here are some sources u could use :1)https://www.wisdomlib.org/south-asia/book/the-history-of-andhra-country/d/doc220040.html 2)https://books.google.co.in/books?id=AVIzAQAAMAAJ&dq=ambadeva&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=ambadeva 3)https://books.google.co.in/books?id=36AGEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT207&dq=ambadeva&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZ1tnw0JX3AhUqG6YKHX-pBWc4ChDoAXoECAcQAw AuthenticSources2546 (talk) 08:17, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@AuthenticSources2546: Thanks a lot for sharing. I'll add the content as soon as possible.

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