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New Democratic Party of Quebec

Good luck with solving the 439 links to disambiguation pages you created with this revert. The Banner talk 22:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@The Banner: You and I have had this conversation before. I didn't create them. You can't fix broken links by ignoring article title conventions. Direct your ire to @Graham11:. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 22:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Please see: Template talk:Canadian election result#Edit request: NDP. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

For your information: you (re-)created the links to disambiguation pages. So now it is up to you to clean up the mess. It does not fly to hide behind another editor who messes up. The Banner talk 23:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
@The Banner: For your information: I know I (re-)created the links, by undoing your bad edit. Let me be clear about this because you don't appear to be listening, and this is the second time your actions have created a problem that I have reverted. When an editor in good faith performs a page move that creates a disambiguation page with links, either those links need to be fixed (which you and others at WP:DPL valiantly do), or the page move/s that created the page with incorrect links need to be reverted. In this case you did neither, but blanked and redirected the page in an entirely inappropriate way. You created a situation where New Democratic Party of Quebec redirected to New Democratic Party of Quebec (2014) which (a) is an inappropriate way to have page titles redirect, and (b) blanked a valid disambiguation page purposefully created because of an ambiguous term. You might not agree with what @Graham11: did but your solution was not appropriate and I reverted it. Again, if you've got a problem with that editor who you think "messed up" then take it up with them, not me. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Please fix the links to disambiguation pages that you deliberately created in the following templates:
  1. Template:Quebec provincial political parties
  2. Template:Quebec NDP leaders
  3. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Dorion
  4. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Dorion
  5. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Rosemont
  6. Template:1976 Quebec general election/Laurier
  7. Template:1976 Quebec general election/Mercier
  8. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Richelieu
  9. Template:1992 Quebec provincial by-elections/Anjou
  10. Template:1994 Quebec general election/Saint-Jean
  11. Template:1994 Quebec provincial by-elections/Saint-Jean
  12. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Saint-Jérôme
  13. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Sherbrooke
  14. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Taschereau
  15. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Ungava
  16. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Verdun
  17. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Brome-Missisquoi
  18. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Crémazie
  19. Template:1985 Quebec general election/LaFontaine
  20. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Mercier
  21. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Mégantic-Compton
  22. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Nicolet
  23. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Rosemont
  24. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Terrebonne
  25. Template:1985 Quebec general election/Viau
  26. Template:1986 Quebec provincial by-elections/Saint-Laurent
  27. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Crémazie
  28. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Gouin
  29. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Hochelaga-Maisonneuve
  30. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Hull
  31. Template:1989 Quebec general election/LaFontaine
  32. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Laurier
  33. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Masson
  34. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Mercier
  35. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Notre-Dame-de-Grâce
  36. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Orford
  37. Template:1989 Quebec general election/Verdun
  38. Template:1994 Quebec general election/Anjou
  39. Template:1994 Quebec general election/Gouin
  40. Template:1994 Quebec general election/Hochelaga-Maisonneuve
  41. Template:1994 Quebec general election/Laurier-Dorion
  42. Template:1994 Quebec general election/Mercier
  43. Template:1994 Quebec general election/Rousseau
  44. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Acadie
  45. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Beauharnois
  46. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Blainville
  47. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Borduas
  48. Template:2018 Quebec general election/Bourassa-Sauvé
You recreated the links, do not come with a Wikipedia:My little brother did it-type of excuse. The Banner talk 12:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Enough with the attitude. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:54, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
You better start fixing those templates. After all, you re-created them. And there is no doubt about that. WP:CLEANBEFOREYOUGO. The Banner talk 16:09, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Eluned Morgan (disambiguation)

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Houxi

Hi. Just want to let you know that I reverted the move of Houxi per request at WP:RM/TR, just in case you want to tweak the prod at Houxi (disambiguation). - Station1 (talk) 04:14, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

An t-Eilean

Hi - thanks for your work on An t-Eilean. So appreciate it. Is there any way you could go in and correct my name - it is spelt Nicholas Osborne not Nicolas Osbourne. Many thanks! 173.93.34.58 (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome. I corrected 2 typos. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hatnote-ing

Hello Shhh... You recently removed a hatnote we'd placed on Delta Sigma Chi, as the related "About" link we had offered was a redlink. Indeed you are correct; per WP guidelines, hatlinks should not include redlinks.

Previously, that second group was on our radar, which is why we made the hatnote in the first place. We hadn't yet written that article but it appears to warrant one and the redlink was in anticipation of this. Since you are interested in DAB pages and linking, I thought I would inquire: How would you then suggest we note the existence of other, identically-named fraternities or sororities, where there isn't (yet) a WP article?

The Fraternity and Sorority Project has recently been advocating for deletion of watchlist articles which have poor sourcing, even where they meet our standard bar for inclusion. Normally, the only fraternity or sorority articles we support are for those groups that have existed for ten years or more, with at least three chapters having been installed, and with at least one outside reference to perhaps a university portal, or inclusion in a valid third-party source. There are exceptions for certain notable local chapters (longer tenure, property owning...), but the vast majority of "locals" do not meet our guidelines, all derived from Wikipedia's general notability guidance.

With the hatnote out of bounds, I thought, perhaps the following EFN would work; in your opinion, ought this be in the lede, or elsewhere, or would you suggest another way to clarify?

{{EFN|Delta Sigma Chi may also refer to a non-affiliated Latino, multicultural sorority formed in 1996 at the [[New York City College of Technology|NYC College of Technology]]. It had been a founding member of the [[National Multicultural Greek Council|NMGC]] and is now independent.}}

There was a third group, formerly a Latino men's organization and now co-educational, which we believe has had two chapters, originating at Cal Long Beach in 1987 and which is unaffiliated with the other two, larger organizations. We didn't hatlink them, as they hadn't yet risen to meet our consensus bar of notability and appear to be sputtering along.

Rounding out our research, there is a fourth group, a local at Heidelberg University in Ohio, which was formed in 1962. It may warrant its own WP page, as a stable, 60-year old local which is recognized by their campus, but that article has not yet been written.

Ours is a very active project group, and we work by consensus. So I'm reaching out to you for an opinion since you are a serious WP editor, interested in this sort of structural discussion.

Cordially, Jax MN (talk) 19:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Jax MN: thank you for your note. I think your suggestion is very good – it's exactly the approach I used at Peter Davies (rugby). I used {{NoteTag}} to give it a bit more visibility. Happy editing! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Patrick McDermott RfD

I saw your note asking to be pinged on the RfD close. I did not close it, but it has been closed. Jay 💬 10:20, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Zubří (disambiguation)

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Islamophobia#See also]

I think this list must be severely trimmed. Your opinion? --Altenmann >talk 17:53, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Altenmann:. I don't really have an opinion to be honest. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Studenten

I gotta give props to you for improving the translations in the article. Looks a lot cleaner! Rockfighterz M (talk) 00:21, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

mangabey (disambiguation)

You tagged this as G14, but it had incoming links. It was then deleted. I've restored it. While there are incoming links, shouldn't this be maintained until those links are changed? - UtherSRG (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

@UtherSRG: Thank you for spotting that: I usually fix any links before I nominate it. They're fixed now. Perhaps you could re-delete it. Thanks, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:46, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
Done. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:08, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Hatnote for the two Bishop McDevitt High Schools in Pennsylvania

I find the distinguish tags I added to the two Catholic high schools in the eastern half of Pennsylvania with the same name (although one recently closed) to be easily confused and worth distinguishing. Especially for users who may be searching for these schools viewing sports records. BigCheddah (talk) 00:46, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

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Russian {surname} pages

In {surname} pages we do not split masculine and feminine lists of Russian-language surnames, because quite often in non-Russian sources, there used to be a sexist habit (sadly, still observed) to convert the surnames of women into masculine format: "miss Irina Kotov". Therefore, sorting by given name makes it easier to identify the person. --Altenmann >talk

@Altenmann: OK, thanks. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:02, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Allergin

Hello Shhhnotsoloud, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Allergin, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Page is not a disambiguation page, or disambiguates two or more extant pages. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. CoconutOctopus talk 13:49, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

  • Thank you @CoconutOctopus: but it doesn't disambiguate anything, because "allergin" is not mentioned at either of the two target pages. Both entries are therefore invalid per MOS:DABMENTION and would be deleted, leaving a blank page, hence my G14 request. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:56, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
    I've gone ahead and boldly changed to a redirect to allergen as a misspelling; hopefully that's a solution that works! CoconutOctopus talk 13:59, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I saw you made useful changes to Ankh-Morpork City Watch, can you advise why

works yet

doesn't?Halbared (talk) 18:59, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Halbared: It's the format of the hatnote I was correcting, rather than the content.
''See also: [[Discworld (world)#Sapient species|Undead (Discworld)]]''
isn't good because it doesn't use the correct template, and it's piped, which is misleading. The correct version would be:
{{See also|Discworld (world)#Sapient species}}
You could replace "Sapient species" with "Undead" if that's better. I hope that helps. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:58, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

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tangentially related to this, i'm gonna point out that massxfd is a tool that exists, and is convenient for nomming multiple redirects consarn (talck) (contirbuton s) 20:33, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
@Consarn: Thank you Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:38, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
@Sumanuil: Why did you think it was necessary to post this? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:38, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
Because you "corrected" several file names in the gallery.  Sumanuil. (talk to me) 23:19, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
@Sumanuil: Sorry about that, and although I don't think the uw-preview template was strictly necessary, thank you for pointing it out. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:36, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Flooding of RfD

Instead of flooding RfD with many similar nominations, use the script WP:MASSXFD to make one large nomination. Alternatively, you can use the instructions for multi-RfDs in WP:RFD#How to list a redirect for discussion. I am bad at usernames (talk | contribs) 20:41, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

@I am bad at usernames: As you can see, if you had waited a few minutes, I combined them. I do have some experience at RfD, but thank you for the reminder. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:45, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Usz (disambiguation)

Hi! I'm so used to seeing valid G14 nominations from you that I hesitated more than once before declining your nomination of Usz (disambiguation). Am I wrong, or was this a rare oversight on your part? Either way, many thanks for all your good work. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:14, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: and @Duckmather: thank you. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:23, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

American Pharaoh

Hi, thank you for your contributions. I note your recent revert at American Pharaoh.

This is textbook R from misspelling. A one-sentence mention of a television episode (which itself does not appear to meet WP:N) does not warrant removing the primary redirect. Can you elaborate on why you think there is no primary topic? 19:41, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

The redirect American Pharaoh (documentary) exists (and there is mention of it at the target) and while it does it creates an ambiguity. I wouldn't object to American Pharaoh redirecting to American Pharoah so long as there was a disambiguation hatnote there, but that's not what you did. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:47, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

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Sri Lankan Tamil

Why did you make Sri Lankan Tamil a dab page? It was perfectly fine redirecting to Sri Lankan Tamils. Sri Lankan Tamil overwhelmingly refers to a Sri Lankan Tamil person, both here in Wikipedia and elsewhere. It is therefore a MOS:PRIMARYTOPIC. It very rarely refers to the Sri Lankan Tamil dialect. You had to correct dozens of links to the dab you created - how many of the links referred to the dialect? All you have done is make additional work for editors by forcing them use piping whenever they want to link to the Sri Lankan Tamils article in the singular form. Obi2canibe (talk) 11:27, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Obi2canibe: Well firstly, Sri Lanka Tamils (not Sri Lankan) was a disambiguation page but at a title which is not ambiguous, so I swapped it to the page title Sri Lanka Tamil which is, and I've just finished the job by redirecting that to Sri Lankan Tamil, preferring "Sri Lankan ..." to "Sri Lanka ..." for consistency. Secondly, yes I did clean up all the incoming, many of which were to the language not the people, I didn't count them. Thirdly, the situation we have here is just like French and German and hundreds of other situations where there is a name of a language and of a people (see Category:Language and nationality disambiguation pages) and there is no natural primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:18, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
Sri Lankan Tamil dialects isn't a language, it's merely a dialect of the Tamil language. Even it were a language, Sri Lankan Tamils is certainly the primary topic. Sri Lankan Tamil dialects has had 2,000 page views in the last three months whereas Sri Lankan Tamils had 60,000 page views in the same period.
The solution to Sri Lanka Tamils being a dab page was to create Sri Lankan Tamil (disambiguation), redirect Sri Lanka Tamils to Sri Lankan Tamils and leave Sri Lankan Tamil as a redirect of to Sri Lankan Tamils. Instead, you have taken a sledgehammer to crack a nut, violated MOS:PRIMARYTOPIC and caused additional work for yourself and others. A total mess. Obi2canibe (talk) 13:33, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
Thank you for your opinion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

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