User talk:Squatch347

Hi Squatch347,

Thank you for reviewing the situation and reverting the unsourced political claims on the Rear Admiral Mir Ershad Ali article. I appreciate your careful validation of the source and reference to WP:BLP. It really helped resolve a sensitive dispute constructively.

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Quotes from you in question of questionable faith from the Coptic Language talk page:

"On the issue of tongues being cut off, I am using Ishak's own language. He says "likely to have" rather than phrasing it as we do in the article." (when 'likely' nor 'likely to have' is never used by Ishaq)

"The definition of liable in this context is: "very likely to do something"" (when it clearly is not given the context of the 'order' from the Caliph, the primary definition per every dictionary, and the Latin roots being OBLIGATION or RESPONSIBILITY all saying otherwise, and essentially doubling down on the previous misrepresentation/attempted reinterpretation. Also, that you would suggest those that disagree with you 'are not native to English' is clear gaslighting as well and a poorly disguised ad-hominem.)

"given that we can't verify they were academically reviewed." (when opening the source linked many times would show 6 PHDs reviewed and signed off on it on page 4, you only had to get past the cover page really before making this claim for... what reasons instead of checking? Not only that; Visions of Theophilus features in a book, [https://epiphaniusmacar.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/The-Morning-Adam-Doxologies-OLA247.pdf%7C COPTIC SOCIETY, LITERATURE AND RELIGION FROM LATE ANTIQUITY TO MODERN TIMES], table of contents page 8, and Soliman, Mary. "Arab Dialectology and the Influence of Coptic on Egyptian Arabic." Thesis. Boca Raton: Florida Atlantic University, 2007, was cited by Vision of Theophilius in turn, and Mary Soliman's work is also cited in 6 other sources per https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=17044332599103480862&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=en)

One of these could be an honest mistake but all 3 in addition to calling Aziz Suryal Atiya an 'editor' instead of Editor-in-Chief? Increasingly unlikely and a little suspect. I'm required to warn you because it would be improper for me to submit you for user conduct review without first such a warning on your talk page.

172.91.72.116 (talk) 22:43, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

Morning IP. I see that you opened a RFC, so I won't go through your last response there, but let the RFC play out instead. I did, however, want to clarify my intent a bit since I believe you have misread my position.

1) I don't think Ishaq is a fringe source. My adding of attribution is not meant to imply him being outside of mainstream or having a fringe position. I'd point out that I even added "noted" in the attribution to highlight that he is a well-respected member of the field. I simply want to add the attribution because he is the primary source we have on the topic.

2) Your take that my reading of the word liable as likely as bad faith strikes me as a bit confrontational and doesn't assume good faith. I believe Ishaq is using that word in its second meaning primarily due to sentence construction. I would highly encourage you to read the second grammar source I referenced as it goes into this a bit. Generally, when we are referring to someone being legally liable, we say they are liable for something. Liable for damages, liable for the debts, etc.

But, when combined with the infinitive "to" it implies the secondary definition related to something probably occurring. See here, here, or here.

From the first source, Miriam, I especially like their call out box related to liable, likely, and apt as I believe it directly applies to this situation given having your tongue removed is undesirable:

Both liable and apt when followed by an infinitive are used nearly interchangeably with likely. Although conflicting advice has been given over the years, most current commentators accept apt when so used. They generally recommend limiting liable to situations having an undesirable outcome, and our evidence shows that in edited writing it is more often so used than not.

Anyway, I hope this clarifies my intent a bit and helps you see that I'm not approaching this in bad faith.

Squatch347 (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

I apologize if you already know this, but the difftext template might be a better way to propose changes in talk rather than doing it in the live article and reverting it. Example:

Xan747 (talk) 14:22, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

I didn't, thanks! I remember having seen that used before and searched around for half an hour to try and find it, but couldn't. Thanks for adding, I'll update mine now.

Squatch347 (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

No problem. When I came back from wikibreak a few months ago, I had a devil of a time relearning all the templates too. They can be ridiculously difficult to look up. Not that I would ever use an LLM, but I've heard they can help. ;-p Xan747 (talk) 15:09, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

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