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Crossbow
I can't find anything about a 10th century Norse crossbow and I can't find this book you use as a reference. Do you have some other sources as well? Haukur 20:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I found it on a website,which gave this book as its source,homepages.tesco/~tinyclanger/fitzgreyve/albini_equipment_crossbows-lockbow.htm or just google "skane lockbow". The battle of Hjorongavagr is also well known- as I am sure you know- and there may be information from accounts of this too
Streona 13:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- That page doesn't mention the battle of Hjörungavágr. What's your source for that? Haukur —Preceding comment was added at 18:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Chronology of the Crossbow from http/www.thebeckoning.com/medieval/crossbow/chronology This in turn cites W.F.Paterson "A guide to the Crossbow" Society of Antiquary Archers,1990- which is why I originally cited it on the stub, but has since been removed.Streona 21:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
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Lane End, Isle of Wight
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Your Isle of Wight articles
Hi, thanks for the message you left me. You accidentally left it on my user page though, not my talk page! Easily done; I've made the same mistake myself in the past.
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Cunnan
Hi Streona, and thanks for the message. Looking at that site, they are definitely using the Wiki software, which is freely available for anyone who wants it. This availability, and frustration with Wikipedia's rules on what does/doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, has led to people setting up hundreds of independent Wikis, many of them hosted on the same server (Wikia) but all of them separate from Wikipedia (some of the best known are Wookieepedia (the Star Wars wiki) and the World of Warcraft Wiki). This means the Cunnan Wiki is completely unrelated to Wikipedia; it just happens to use the same software - it was very good of you to correct the articles there, and hopefully it's appreciated, but obviously we have no oversight there.
As far as content goes, all Wikipedia articles are freely available for anyone to do anything they want with, including copy/change/try to sell/whatever. The only real restrictions are that any derivative work must be released under a similar free license to Wikipedia, and we must be credited somewhere. If the Cunnan site has used Wikipedia articles, or portions of them, they must give attribution somewhere on the site (usually a mention on each page that "this site contains material from Wikipedia..." is sufficient). If not, we can follow this up further as they would be in breach of copyright. Stuff that you've added to their site is licensed under their rules, so that wouldn't be covered. However, I think your note was more concerned with accuracy than plagarism - as I said, we have no say in how they run their Wiki, but from your message it's easy to see why they'd want to host their own stuff rather than fight through Wikipedia policies on accuracy and verification to get it on here ;)
Dinosaur
AfD nomination of Derek Beackon

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Pirates
Hello there, and welcome to Wikipedia. I don't know if "Frontal lobe damage would cause a lack of inhibition in speech and behaviour often associated with pirates." is meant as a joke, but that whole section is more appropriate for the general article on Pirates, than for International Talk Like a Pirate Day. It'd also be good if you could mention the source that you were drawing the information from, so that other editors could find out more about it. Thanks. --McGeddon (talk) 00:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- If you've got a source, that's great, but this whole section should definitely be moved to the pirates article (or possibly pirates in popular culture, which has a section about piratical speech). It's only about the international day in the sense of background information - it's really about pirates. --McGeddon (talk) 11:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Your recent edits
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I'm sorry
Hello,
I don't know if you noticed (I hope not), but I briefly blocked your account. It should be unblocked now; please try to edit the WP:Sandbox to see if you're unblocked. If there is a stray autoblock, please follow the directions on the autoblock notice, and someone will be by soon to help.
Explanation: you posted a reply on User talk:SineBot directly under a message from a known, serial vandal. Her style of writing is very distinctive. Since you posted "inside" her thread, so to speak, your edit summary had the title of her previous heading in it. I'm watching the page, saw that heading, and stupidly jumped to the conclusion that you had created the header. I just blocked out of reflex. When I went to see what else she had edited that I needed to revert, I noticed that everything looked, well, written by a rational human. Only then did I actually check the text of your message on SineBot's talk, and realize my mistake.
Hope you'll accept my apologies, and that this doesn't cause any complications in your editing. Sorry! --barneca (talk) 15:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
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Please be careful
Hi, I don't want to sound uncivil as we all make mistakes, however please be careful when you undo revisions to try and prevent things like this from happening. Thanks and happy editing :) ~ Ameliorate U T C @ 09:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, I have replied here. ~ Ameliorate U T C @ 00:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Fear
"Because History is not Racism, - in fact Anglo-Saxon, like Celticism is not necessarily a race, but a culture and fear of who?"
It's both culture and race, you cannot separate the two. This is why England's culture of late consists almost entirely of rising racial and religious antagonism, petty crime and unfortunate teenage pregnancies.
You're afraid of admitting any truths because you don't want to look unpopular or illiberal. If you admit the existence of races, that makes you racist; if you admit the differences between sexes, that makes you sexist; if you admit there are differences in intellect between people, that makes you elitist; and so on and so on. Transcend this pathetic crowd play.
You've swallowed the liberal lie that protecting ones kin over any others in any form is wrong. The Anglo-Saxons you revere were not yet so gullible. Zxcvbispass (talk) 00:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
REPLY
Whilst I am not prepared to go to zxcvbispass user page (which seems to have been especially created to edit the BNP article, especially as zxcvb occur together on the keyboard just as qwertyuiop does, so "sockpuppet" might be more appropriate) to have a discussion with these kind of people (in the words of Woody Allen in Annie Hall or Manhattan "We should attack them with satire and reasoning" "Yeah and take a few baseball bats to put our finer parts of logic across") -should he/she return to this page - this is the answer;
Recent DNA studies indicate that "English" people are descended from various roots, but mostly not Anglo-Saxon. Most appear to be from the stone age people who came after the Ice Age. The Anglo-Saxons do not appear to have wiped out the "Britons", mostly NOT Celts for the same reason, but to have interbred with them. The early Wessex kings had in some cases,very "British" or Welsh names such as Cerdic (which is the same as "Caractacus"), Caedwalla and English names such as "Aethelweah" ("noble foreigner") and Cenwalh ("bright foreigner"). The likelihood is that a small number of Anglo-Saxon men came over on boats and interbred with local women. Th Laws of Ine refer to differing wergilds for Britons as for Saxons. So from their inception the Anglo-Saxons were a mixed race. Alfred the Great was especially open to foreign ideas and sent an embassy to India and explorers to the Baltic. His whole strategy was based upon making piece between himself and the danes at the Peace of Wedmore. Early Archbishops of Canterbury - such as Theodore and Deodatus, were in fact Greek, and Athelstan's court in particular began our proud tradition - until destroyed by New Labour- of protecting refugees (such as Louis D'Outremer). The Early Church decreed that King Edwy's marriage to his foster-sister, Edgiva, was incestuous, due to being within (or in fact at) 9 degrees of consanguinity- which must have made miscegenation virtually compulsory. King Ethelred the Unready in 1002 committed the St. Bric's Day Massacre against "Danish" civilians- which would no doubt make him a hero to the BNP- but which got him precisely nowhere. I am, not necessarily proud of my ancestry, because it is something over which I have no control- but neither am I ashamed. I think Anglo-Saxon culture and language has given the World great cultural and scientific riches- not least the World Language of English and values such as stubborn resistance to fascism, tolerance, broad mindedness and all the things that make us Great that the BNP and their like so despise and would destroy. We have from our beginning been a mongrel race, our language a mongrel language and our culture a mongrel culture. Its called "hybrid vigour".
To Do
King's Quay DONE
Pubs of the Isle of Wight IOW Catholic Martyrs Rivers of the IOW- Palmers Brook Lukely Brook Deadmans Brook
Royal Navy ;Anglo Saxon Period.
Newtown (Ferguson Gang etc.)
Redirects
Regarding to your created page King's Quay Shore, you might want to read up on Redirects at Help:Redirect. I fixed it for you this time :-) So#Why review me! 14:54, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Dinosaur#Christianity
Your response at Talk:Dinosaur#Christianity was a beautiful combination of tact and scientific rigour. -- Philcha (talk) 09:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
WP:Wight
Hello! I know you've done a lot of work on Isle of Wight articles, and thought you'd be interested to know that I've just started Wikipedia:WikiProject Wight. I think there's a lot more that can be done with the island's articles, and this should help us all to work together consistently. I hope to see you there! --Peeky44 (talk) 11:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
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AfD nomination of Redress (charitable organisation)

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- Yeah, sorry, I realised you'd done that and added a comment to the AfD page clarifying that. The article is now at AfD, so you'll have to convince people there that the article should be kept, rather than me. J Milburn (talk) 13:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi,
- If you're going to prevent the article from being deleted, you need to do more than just post on the talk page. The page is deleted or kept based on the discussion found at the AFD (Articles For Deletion, here). You must make your argument based on our policies, not on bare assertions; in this case the policy is articles for deletion, and the relevant guidelines are at notability for organizations - you should also review arguments to avoid.
- The short version is - find press and other media that are independent of the organization, that mention it. Ideally that discuss it in detail. If The Times did an article, you're pretty golden, so long as it's not just a mere mention. Add them to the page, and point out on the AFD discussion that you have done so. One argument to avoid is "torture is really bad, and this organization is against torture, so it's really important". That's one that we see a lot. WLU (talk) 00:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Just to inform you, I have removed the CSD notice because I think it has been placed in error. You should expand the article with references and in-line citations because while CSD is unlikely imho, an AfD might be likely. You should be prepared for this to happen. SoWhy 17:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
August 2008
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BNP Councillors
Out of 55 councillors the BNP have lost a number due to expulsions and splits. These are
Simon Smith - expelled from the BNP due to supporting a different leadership candidate
Peter Pirnie- co-opted to Kingswear Parish Council, this co-option was rescinded due to his being a member of the BNP.
Colin Auty- expelled for standing against Griffin for leadership
Robin Evans
Maureen Stowe
Sadie Graham - expelled for "rebellion" against Griffin
Cllr Chris Beverley (Yorkshire Elections Officer, Leeds Organiser & Advisory Council Member)
Cllr Dave Brown (Broxtowe)
Cllr Nina Brown (East Mids Regional Secretary & Broxtowe Organiser)
Cllr Roger Robertson (South East Regional Organiser & Advisory Council Member) - co opted Hartney Witley in
Hampshire
Councillors
From their ranks of up to 55 councillors the BNP have lost a substantial proportion through resignations expulsions and splits. The BNP councillors have particular disadvantages which many other councillors do not have. Instances of various misdemeanours are closely watched by opponents and widely advertised- although all councillors will face scrutiny from opposing parties locally. When the first BNP councillor, Derek Beackon was elected in the Isle of Dogs, local council staff staged a mass walkout. He found himself isolated from officers and councillors, most of whom refused to speak to him at all, making it especially difficult to understand the workings of the council and impaired his effectiveness. Others have had similar experiences, which has often resulted in exceptionally poor attendance records and disillusionment. Some have been obstructed by official actions against them and been prevented from fulfilling their dutues by suspension or by bail conditions. However as the party increases its pool of experienced councillors this could be improved from their point of view, although the actions of existing councillors have not produced any positive role models as yet.
The internal party democracy of the BNP has been criticised by members for giving too much power to the Chairman and for not being widely available for the membership to consult. In 2007 a leadership challenge to Griffin by Colin Auty http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/dewsbury-news/Auty-quits-after-BNP-leadership.4455958.jp and previously by Colin Jackson resulted in resignations and expulsions of their supporters and 67 senior activists including many councillors resigning the whip after Councillor Nina Brown claimed that BNP Security had misled her into giving them the key to the home of fellow BNP councillor Sadie Graham in order to ransack it, searching for evidence of her support for Auty's leadership bid. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/dec/18/politics.thefarright
Others, such as Daniel Kelly in Barking & Dagenham or Angela Clarke in Keighley, have resigned due to "not understanding what was going on" . Some have been suspended from the council. Luke Smith (a Burnley councillor) was expelled for glassing another BNP reveller at the 2003 Red. White And Blue Festival and was banned from being a councillor by the Standards Board for England, following his being banned from football matches for hooliganism. (Luke Smith later hanged himself in 2008).
Smith's uncle Simon Smith was himself suspended for the racialist content of his website, before leaving the BNP in support of Sadie Graham. He said of Luke Smith,(who was awaiting sentencing for beating up a barman before he hanged himself outside the pub).
“He was a lovely, lovely lad who, like a lot of people, was just too sensitive to exist in what is effectively an extremely cruel world." [1]
Terry Farr, a councillor in Epping, resigned to spend more time with his family after a suspension for writing abusive letters to Trevor Phillips
John Rowe, a Burnley councillor, has been excluded from meetings due to his bail conditions after setting off fire alarms. http://www.burnleyexpress.net/burnleynews/Police-eject-BNP-man-from.4463648.jp
Others have become disenchanted with the BNP itself. In September 2007, Robin Evans, a BNP councillor in Blackburn, walked out of the party, then wrote a letter to his former colleagues denouncing them as a party of drug-dealers and football hooligans. He remains a councillor, describing himself as a "national socialist". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1517025/Vote-BNP-and-youre-as-bad-as-they-are.html?mobile=true
Another Burnley councillor Maureen Stowe, resigned from the BNP in 2004 claiming that they had concealed their fascist nature from her.http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=856 http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jun/14/localgovernment.politics
James Lloyd, a BNP councillor in Sandwell was suspended for not attending enough council meetings. www.expressandstar.com/2007/10/16/bnp-man-kicked-out/
As the BNP has yet to gain power in any locality, it has not yet had the opportunity to show its policies in action. However any policy explicitly based on treating ethnic minorities less favourably would have to comply with national legislation designed to prevent such policies, which would constrain the freedom of action of such a council.
Joanne Beverley,Malcolm Porter, John Ryde (Hugglescote), Graham Partner, Lewis Allsebrook 15
daniel kelly . bailey, Angela Clarke watkins
farr http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/1532030.breaking_news_bnp_councillor_resigns_from_district_council/ stowe http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jun/14/localgovernment.politics graham http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/dec/18/politics.thefarright rowe http://www.burnleyexpress.net/burnleynews/Police-eject-BNP-man-from.4463648.jp
Robertson (South East Regional Organiser & Advisory Council Member) - co opted Hartney Witley in
Hampshire
Councillors
From their ranks of up to 55 councillors the BNP have lost a substantial proportion through resignations expulsions and splits. The BNP councillors have particular disadvantages which many other councillors do not have. Instances of various misdemeanours are closely watched by opponents and widely advertised- although all councillors will face scrutiny from opposing parties locally. When the first BNP councillor, Derek Beackon was elected in the Isle of Dogs, local council staff staged a mass walkout. He found himself isolated from officers and councillors, most of whom refused to speak to him at all, making it especially difficult to understand the workings of the council and impaired his effectiveness. Others have had similar experiences, which has often resulted in exceptionally poor attendance records and disillusionment. Some have been obstructed by official actions against them and been prevented from fulfilling their dutues by suspension or by bail conditions. However as the party increases its pool of experienced councillors this could be improved from their point of view, although the actions of existing councillors have not produced any positive role models as yet.
The internal party democracy of the BNP has been criticised by members for giving too much power to the Chairman and for not being widely available for the membership to consult. In 2007 a leadership challenge to Griffin by Colin Auty [2] and previously by Colin Jackson resulted in resignations and expulsions of their supporters and 67 senior activists including many councillors resigning the whip after Councillor Nina Brown claimed that BNP Security had misled her into giving them the key to the home of fellow BNP councillor Sadie Graham in order to ransack it, searching for evidence of her support for Auty's leadership bid. [3]
Others, such as Daniel Kelly in Barking & Dagenham or Angela Clarke in Keighley, have resigned due to "not understanding what was going on" . Some have been suspended from the council. Luke Smith (a Burnley councillor) was expelled for glassing another BNP reveller at the 2003 Red. White And Blue Festival and was banned from being a councillor by the Standards Board for England, following his being banned from football matches for hooliganism. (Luke Smith later hanged himself in 2008).
Smith's uncle Simon Smith was himself suspended for the racialist content of his website, before leaving the BNP in support of Sadie Graham. He said of Luke Smith,(who was awaiting sentencing for beating up a barman before he hanged himself outside the pub).
“He was a lovely, lovely lad who, like a lot of people, was just too sensitive to exist in what is effectively an extremely cruel world." [5]
Terry Farr, a councillor in Epping, resigned to spend more time with his family after a suspension for writing abusive letters to Trevor Phillips
John Rowe, a Burnley councillor, has been excluded from meetings due to his bail conditions after setting off fire alarms. [6] James Lloyd, a BNP councillor in Sandwell was suspended for not attending enough council meetings. He attributed this to business difficulties following the closure of his pub, a favourite with BNP activists due to his non cooperation with police investigations into repeated violent incidents. [7] Others have become disenchanted with the BNP itself. In September 2007, Robin Evans, a BNP councillor in Blackburn, walked out of the party, then wrote a letter to his former colleagues denouncing them as a party of drug-dealers and football hooligans. He remains a councillor, describing himself as a "national socialist". [8]
Another Burnley councillor Maureen Stowe, resigned from the BNP in 2004 claiming that they had concealed their fascist nature from her. [9] [10] Answering these charges, BNP loyalists have suggested that she is a "witch" (although this was unsubstantiated). As the BNP has yet to gain power in any locality, it has not yet had the opportunity to show its policies in action. However any policy explicitly based on treating ethnic minorities less favourably would have to comply with national legislation designed to prevent such policies, which would constrain the freedom of action of such a council.
Footnote problems
Hi Streona. I've responded to your request on my talk. Cheers, Olaf Davis | TalkP08:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Completed at Paul Rosenberg (murder)
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A reference for your Mr. 10% remark. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C00E2D61E30F93AA35752C0A96E958260 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_president10_percent http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-09-04-pakistan_N.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 903M (talk • contribs) 05:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

