User talk:Svartner/Archive 2
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Copa Minas 1967
The COMMONNOME is "Torneio Quadrangular de Belo Horizonte". "Copa dos Campeões" inventing it on the Wiki itself. Fulanoo1 (talk) 09:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- If you have a source that points to this name as the official name, no problem, but the majority of the other sources point the name as "Torneio/Copa dos Campeões"
- https://www.rsssfbrasil.com/tablessz/tcampeoesbh1967.htm
- https://futebolnacional.com.br/siteapp/?module=championship&code=72882753FBE2FF195C2BB80E5D0E636A&lang=pt-br&img=y&target=2
- https://www.ocuriosodofutebol.com.br/2018/04/a-conquista-do-bangu-no-torneio-dos.html
- https://www.bangu-ac.com.br/bangu/titulos/
- As you can see, it was not an invention. If you have any other further questions, feel free to send a message.
- Svartner (talk) 09:33, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- "The curious thing about football" and "national football" are not reliable sources (RSSSF is no longer a reliable source on WIKI pt, although it is on Wiki EN) and were probably influenced by Wiki itself. As you can see in Wiki PT's sources, no newspaper at the time used the term "Copa dos Campeões". Fulanoo1 (talk) 10:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- The listed sites provide very accurate coverage of Brazilian football. In this case, I listed the official website of Bangu AC which also calls the competition the "Copa dos Campeões", what is clear is that the term of reference for the competition was not merely "invented" Svartner (talk) 19:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- "The curious thing about football" and "national football" are not reliable sources (RSSSF is no longer a reliable source on WIKI pt, although it is on Wiki EN) and were probably influenced by Wiki itself. As you can see in Wiki PT's sources, no newspaper at the time used the term "Copa dos Campeões". Fulanoo1 (talk) 10:21, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
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Proposed deletion of Neguitão
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ferroviariaemcampo.blogspot.com
Hi Svartner. At Getúlio (footballer, born 1947), you used a reference from ferroviariaemcampo.blogspot.com. Per WP:BLOGS, blogs are among the sources which are "largely not acceptable as sources". WP:BLOGS makes an exception: "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications." Do you think this exception applies to ferroviariaemcampo.blogspot.com? Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 18:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I am aware of the problem with WP:BLOGS. In this case, a source was used because he is a player who played mostly for Ferroviária, a team from the interior of Brazil, where the most accurate coverage is provided by this type of sources. I just included the list of teams that athlete Getulio played for during his career, and corrected the place of birth. There are images of the player's official documents in the post. Svartner (talk) 21:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
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Ways to improve 1958 Torneio Rio-São Paulo
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Stats inly page for one edition of Torneio Rio–São Paulo. Suggest mergina the little prose into Torneio Rio–São Paulo
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Deletion discussion about 1958 Torneio Rio-São Paulo
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Category:Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras players
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Jefferson Feijão
Hi Svarnter, on your page Jefferson Feijão (footballer, born 1986) it says "right black" instead of "right back" :) RossEvans18 (talk) 21:25, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
2031 Basketball World Cup
How can I get the 2031 Basketball World Cup article back so I can make it a draft? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 21:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, there is already a draft: You can work on it without any major problems. Svartner (talk) 22:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- The draft is not very good. How can I get my version back? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 22:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
May 2024

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Deaths in 2024
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July 2024
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Recent page appreciation
@Svartner:, I have noticed that you have been creating many older Brazilian pros and now older Italian players and I want to thank you for that... when going on Wikipedia I find that there are so many older Souh American, Mexican, Italian, Spanish, French, Belgian, Dutch and German players that have good sources that do not have Wikipedia pages and I am glad that other users like you are starting to take notice of these types of players. As a side note, I have noticed that many prominent present-day Polish, Czech, Norwegian, Irish, Korean, Luxembourgian and Swedish top flight and second tier players as well as present-day Spanish, French, Italian, and German third and fourth tier players have good sources. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 00:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Luisão (footballer, born 2003)
Hi there! Please read Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 156#Categories for players who haven't played for the first team. No consensus after all... The discussion died with people arguing with others for hypothetical scenarios and/or point of views. I'd rather not use the categories here, since it's wildly irrelevant if you consider that he is known for playing for Novorizontino, not Audax or São Paulo. Cheers, BRDude70 (talk) 04:22, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. The point is that if you have an affinity with player articles, you will notice that the vast majority (except for incomplete articles made at the beginning of the project) normally contain the categories of youth clubs, this being the standard adopted to date.
- A good example is the case of Morato, a defender who played for São Paulo FC at youth level, was champion of the Copa SP, but never played professionally in the main team. Even so, he had a recognized career at the club.
- Regarding ogol/zerozero/playmakerstats, I personally consider it a good complementary source, as does Soccerway. It alone does not actually add value to WP:GNG, which is why I put it as an external link, just for statistical consultation as it summarizes pertinent information.
- Anyway, I don't want to get into an edit war just for details, but there's room for further discussion on the topic. I hope there is understanding on your part too. Furthermore, feel free to talk and Merry Christmas. Svartner (talk) 04:33, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, there's not a "standard" if there's no consensus... Morato is not the same case as Luisão, since he is known to have played for São Paulo as a youth. See this article for an example: it clearly mentions São Paulo in the headlines. You absolutely can't find the same for Luisão...
- IMO, it falls into the same topics where other people were bringing up in the discussion I've pointed you, and GiantSnowman was mainly dismissing... It's not clear whether the category should or shouldn't exist, thus I prefer to leave it out. If you think of it in a more practical way, would you come into Category:São Paulo FC players to search for players who played for their youth team or their first team? Maybe we should (once again) bring this to WT:FOOTY.
- Merry Christmas to you too! :) BRDude70 (talk) 04:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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Proposed deletion of Campeonato Sul-Mato-Grossense Série C

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Declined speedy deletion: Quadrobics
Hi there, and thank you for all your help making Wikipedia better! I wanted to let you know that I have declined your G4 speedy deletion nomination of Quadrobics because the article was soft deleted at AFD based on minimal participation. Soft deletions are treated like PRODs: the article can be recreated without prejudice. Let me know if you have any follow-up questions. Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 07:49, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
Campeonato Regional Centro
Hello Svartner, how are you? Can you help create more seaons in Campeonato Regional Centro? Thank you! What about this draft Draft:1905 Campeonato de Madrid, thank you! Help.Football.History (talk) 15:01, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
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Felipinho (footballer, born August 1997)
Hello, I stumbled across this page when making a page for another Felipinho born in a different month of 1997. You know the specifics better, does this player pass notability? I would say 26 games and 4 goals on Soccerway's record means no , but 7 games and 4 goals in one Campeonato Mineiro season could provide other sources.
I know I'm shouting into the void, but I think WP:NFOOTY was a mistake from the start, as it gave impetus for users to create thousands of pages based on a binary of played in a professional league or not. This has now led to AfD contributors having to do shedloads of WP:BEFORE, as in this case the editor has not provided any text or sources at all for us to judge the notability of Felipinho as a person. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:04, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, thanks for the reminder. I did my WP:BEFORE here and only found the news about his transfer to Macaé (his last club) , I didn't find anything about his time in Mato Grosso football or in the modest teams of Minas Gerais, not even during his time at Atlético Mineiro in 2017. It's a clear failure of WP:GNG, so feel free to nominate it in an AfD or even PROD. Svartner (talk) 22:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Nominating it on behalf of your discussion :) RossEvans19 (talk) 13:14, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
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Afd April Fools Day joke nomination
Hello there! I made a joke nomination about Gianluigi Buffon at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/April Fools' Day 2025 that, as we both participate in football AFD discussions, I thought you'd find funny (yes I look very desperate but it's still good humour) RossEvans19 (talk) 18:47, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
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Miguel Márquez
Hello. I noticed that you had three interventions on the discussion of Miguel Márquez, but in the end, you left no vote. Not sure whether you did it on purpose or simply forgot, so I thought it best to warn you about it (Delete or Redirect).
Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 23:25, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello. I honestly have no idea what to do in this case, so I preferred not to vote. Svartner (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Svartner: Listen, I can neither help you make that choice nor influence it because of WP:CANVASS, but your vote might be the difference between a definitive sentence and no consensus, so please just follow your guts and cast your vote. Don't let those doubts beat you. Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 00:02, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, voted. Svartner (talk) 00:07, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined... Barr Theo (talk) 00:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Why? That article really got confusing. If you're interested in keeping the Uruguayan player article, the ideal would be to restart it as a draft, where you can gather the sources more calmly. Svartner (talk) 00:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Listen, I'm not interested in keeping the Uruguayan player...
- The only reason I want to turn him into a redirect is because it is the only way to preserve my 0% deletion ratio. I currently have 1,001 articles with ZERO deletions). But yeah... I suppose there is nothing I can do to save that streak now. Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 00:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Now I understand better, I changed the vote to redirect. I thought you would like to work on the Uruguayan player's article, in case there is no one willing, maybe it won't cause confusion. Svartner (talk) 00:34, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Great, I have just accidentally pulled off an WP:CANVASS... This Miguel Márquez situation is proving to be a great headache... Barr Theo (talk) 00:47, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Now I understand better, I changed the vote to redirect. I thought you would like to work on the Uruguayan player's article, in case there is no one willing, maybe it won't cause confusion. Svartner (talk) 00:34, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Why? That article really got confusing. If you're interested in keeping the Uruguayan player article, the ideal would be to restart it as a draft, where you can gather the sources more calmly. Svartner (talk) 00:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined... Barr Theo (talk) 00:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, voted. Svartner (talk) 00:07, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Svartner: Listen, I can neither help you make that choice nor influence it because of WP:CANVASS, but your vote might be the difference between a definitive sentence and no consensus, so please just follow your guts and cast your vote. Don't let those doubts beat you. Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 00:02, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia:The World Destubathon Invite!
Hi Svartner! Dr.Blofield is running the Wikipedia:The World Destubathon - I thought i'd invite you as your work on Wikipedia is fantastic! :)) RossEvans19 (talk) 00:37, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- Done, but I'm really just indicating articles that are very outdated in relation to the project, players who had no relevance whatsoever in their careers, that were created en masse when the guidelines were less demanding. Thank you for remind me btw. Svartner (talk) 00:48, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've been doing the same - it's still really helpful work though! And no worries :) RossEvans19 (talk) 00:50, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Ross, and welcome aboard Svartner! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:38, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
AFD relisting
Hi there, when you close/relist AfDs, can you please use WP:XFDCLOSER? It's much more convenient, and it saves you from making mistakes that mean someone else has to go hunting through the logs to figure out what went wrong. Thanks! -- asilvering (talk) 04:08, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
Nathan Garrow
Do you reckon that Draft:Nathan Garrow meets SIGCOV? It's rather similar to Christian Gray (footballer), including their birthday. Kind regards. Luis7M (talk) 17:03, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Recent BLPPROD's
WP:BLPPROD is reserved for BLP's containing no sources of any kind. Articles containing external links, or citations to dead links archived on the wayback machine do not meet the requirements for BLPPROD. Consequently, your recent tagging of Jun Kokubo and Thiago Moyses is not inline with that policy. Please do not tag articles like that again. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
PRODs
Hello, Svartner,
Today I'm just working through a lot of articles that you PROD'd last week and I thought I'd drop you a comment. Since you PROD so many articles, you might find it much easier if you work with Twinkle to tag articles and files for all kinds of deletion, CSD, PROD and AFD/RFD/CFD/etc. Twinkle will remember all of the step and take care of everything from tagging the article to posting a descriptive edit summary to notifying the article creator. Just be sure to set your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator" and then Twinkle will take care of that step as well. Of course, I have't found any issues with the way you are doing things now, you just might find Twinkle smoother and easier. Also, if you choose, Twinkle will also maintain a PROD log (and one for CSD and XFDs, too) so you can keep track of your deletion record. Some editors find this helpful. Thank you for all of your contributions to the project! Liz Read! Talk! 21:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
Ogol
Hi Svartner. Thanks for creating José Galli Neto. Going forward, please do not use the website Ogol as a reference. A while ago it was categorised as unreliable; see WP:WPFLINKSNO for details. I have removed it at José Galli Neto. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 10:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I'm leaving it in the external links section, since it's a website that presents a brief career history. Just a plus, but I might reconsider. Svartner (talk) 10:19, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Our policies are clear: You shouldn't place unreliable sources in articles, it doesn't in which section of the article. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:21, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
Destubathon runs until the 16th of July
Hi, just a courtesy message to notify you in case you haven't seen the Wikipedia:The World Destubathon contest update in the last few days that we've decided to run the full month until the 16th of July. For those who have been too busy to contribute, we would love some help in reaching 4000 articles by Wednesday night! At present we're about 480 articles short!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:45, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
WP:Articles for deletion/Serenity Cox (2nd nomination)
Hi there Svartner, thanks for helping out at the AfD logs. I noticed your "keep" closure of WP:Articles for deletion/Serenity Cox (2nd nomination). I believe it may have been pre-mature. The two !votes were from relatively inexperienced users (one of whom was the article creator), and didn't critically examine the depth of coverage much. There was also an AfD for this article a little over a year ago with consensus to delete, and the arguments from there haven't been meaningfully addressed in this AfD. In my opinion, a full discussion is warranted this time around, and I think broader community participation would be beneficial. Can you please consider a re-list instead? Regards, Left guide (talk) 20:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Do you really think so? I only closed the AfD because there was no controversy and the votes to keep it were very solid. But feel free to reopen it if you feel it was a wrong decision. Svartner (talk) 20:36, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes I really think so, and ok will do, thanks for being flexible. Best, Left guide (talk) 20:43, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
Targeting all Olympian AfD redirects to List of Olympians?
Hi @Svartner,
Thank you so much for your great work organizing AfDs and often being the first to suggest a WP:ATD.
I was wondering what your thoughts were about targeting the relevant anchor in List of Olympic competitors instead of the "Country at YYYY Olympics" articles in cases of Olympian AfDs. The benefit would be that there's a specific anchor for each person i.e. List of Olympic competitors (Aa–Ak)#Khalid El-Aabidi as opposed to a general "Athletics" anchor, and it might make more sense to target that row in cases of multiple-time Olympians for consistency.
Let me know your thoughts. --Habst (talk) 13:06, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, how are you? I confess that I'm neutral; whatever the community decides, I adopt by default as well. Svartner (talk) 17:22, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Svartner, thanks. Per discussion at User talk:Frank Anchor#What to do for Olympian biographies that were deleted without an ATD being accepted, I think there is community consensus to just arbitrarily choose a redirect target for Olympians in cases where there are multiple (choosing the list makes sense in these cases to me because it always mentions the start and end year for multi-time Olympians). The issue with saying delete e.g. at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Diop is that it removes the Wikidata link and page history and then all other mentions are unlinked. Would you be OK with this? --Habst (talk) 10:23, 27 July 2025 (UTC)
Closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haloscope (physics)
Hi Svartner,
WP:SNOW keep is not a speedy keep rationale, it is an instance of WP:Ignore all rules when the discussion is overwhelmingly in favor of keeping. WP:SNOW keep was not applicable here because there were two participants, including the nominator, who had reasonable disagreements with some of the keep !votes, compared to only five keep !votes. Could you undo your closure and relist the discussion? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 00:07, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, you can request to reopen if you felt harmed, but clearly all the most active members of the astronomy project had already voted to keep it. I don't see any controversy in closing it. Svartner (talk) 00:31, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not invested in the outcome, I was just looking through semi-recent AFDs and saw a close that seemed incorrect. There are a lot of cases where a discussion starts out with several votes for one outcome but ends up with a different outcome such as no consensus. I think I will go to WP:DRV. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 00:45, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
- On second thought, it's not worth going to DRV even if the SNOW closure was wrong. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:41, 25 July 2025 (UTC)
Discussion at Draft talk:Impact of the September 11 attacks on entertainment § Was the point to create a new article or re-write the existing list?
You are invited to join the discussion at Draft talk:Impact of the September 11 attacks on entertainment § Was the point to create a new article or re-write the existing list?. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 10:27, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
Mackenson Altidor Afd
The article has been expanded and more sources added. Can you have another look? Thanks MmeMaigret (talk) 14:44, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
Bruno Agnello is a real person
Hello, i have seen that you have marked Bruno Agnello as a potential hoax. I have no idea why.
This person's existence has clearly been extensively documented
https://www.zerozero.pt/jogador/bruno-agnello/169600
https://www.instagram.com/brunoagnello/ (he has 273 thousand followers on insta)
https://www.transfermarkt.com.br/bruno-agnello/leistungsdaten/spieler/273882
https://kingsleague.pro/pt/jogadores/71425-bruno-agnello
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/JipnsfvZiEI (him on a podcast)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7IefO_MmxTQ&pp=ygUNQnJ1bm8gYWduZWxsbw%3D%3D (a goal he scored when he was young)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGwhhqnp7vU&pp=ygUNQnJ1bm8gYWduZWxsbw%3D%3D (an old interview with him from 2010) Octagon758 (talk) 20:49, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Octagon758, I'm not Svartner but I'll respond anyway as I reverted your removal of the "hoax" tag. The tag doesn't say the article as a whole is a hoax, it states: "This article contains material that may constitute a hoax." Robby.is.on (talk) 21:58, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Exactly, I know he exists. He stood out primarily for being friends with Neymar during his youth career and played for several obscure teams around the world. That's the point, since little is known about these events. Feel free to contribute to the article; as the number of inline citations increases, you can remove the warning. Svartner (talk) 23:09, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Which material in specific do you think might be a hoax? I'll be glad to help Octagon758 (talk) 23:31, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ok thank you Octagon758 (talk) 23:29, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Exactly, I know he exists. He stood out primarily for being friends with Neymar during his youth career and played for several obscure teams around the world. That's the point, since little is known about these events. Feel free to contribute to the article; as the number of inline citations increases, you can remove the warning. Svartner (talk) 23:09, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
Deletion review for 2025 Traverse City stabbing attack
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BLP PRODs
Hello! Please note that for BLP PRODs - completely unsourced BLPs - this is the one type of PROD we can't remove if there are still no sources in the article. Actually, in those cases the tag can and should be readded. At Clodoaldo, though, I instead pasted in the references suggested by you. I also deleted most of the prose since it was not written in real English. Geschichte (talk) 09:58, 3 September 2025 (UTC)
CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 8 § Category:ACS Sticla Arieșul Turda
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Survey
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- Hi and thanks for your recent participation in AfD! As you may have seen in my previous message, I am conducting a survey. Several editors have responded already and I do not want their hard work to go to waste. If you could take a few moments to make your voice hear please check this survey.
- Don't worry I won't send you another reminder.Czarking0 (talk) 02:50, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
A cookie for you!
I have sent you a note about a page you started
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Ogol
Hi Svartner. Thanks for creating Merica (footballer). Going forward, please do not use the website Ogol as a reference. It has been categorised as unreliable; see WP:WPFLINKSNO for details. I have removed Ogol references at Merica and other articles you've created. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 00:14, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 September 18 § Category:Adap Galo Maringá Futebol Clube
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Close of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Best Way
I believe this close was WP:BADNAC as while there were keep !votes, they were not based in policy at all, specifically claiming notability is inherited when it is not. While no offense to the people who made them, an admin would have likely just ignored them. I would ask for you to please reverse the close and wait for an admin to do it, to avoid having to do a deletion review. Thank you. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:30, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Klenion Livio
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Prod BLP
Hi. I just wanted to note that you're not supposed to remove {{Prod blp}} tags without adding a reliable source. The policy is here. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 14:40, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Aman Chetri
Lower Bazaar, Shimla
Lower Bazaar, Shimla article made by me is a market in Shimla city, as many of markets are on Wikipedia aren't deketed like markets of another cites like Delhi, Mumbai, etc, I have added proper citations to it and every information true, if you feel that any improvements should be made then please cite but kindly, remove it from deletion process. 502hsuya (talk) 07:51, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
Campeonato Paulista de Basquete Masculino update
Hi. I see you updated Campeonato Paulista de Basquete Masculino in 2024. Any chance you would interested in doing it again this year? I'm not 100% certain of the final results, but I believe based on Latinbasket.com that Franca Basquetebol Clube defeated Mogi das Cruzes Basquete 3–0 in the Finals series. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
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Relist of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olivia Reingold
Hi. I am curious how you weighted the consensus to see a need for a relist at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olivia Reingold. As far as I can tell at the time of your relist, none of the participants gave a policy based reason to keep, while all the delete !votes explained in policy based reasons their !vote. Since the relist there has been 1 policy based keep !vote, but there was not at the time of your relist. There are a few other relists which I find questionable over the past 5 days (all I looked at) and would suggest you review WP:RELISTBIAS before relisting any further AfDs. Additionally, "final relist" is not a policy based reason for doing a third relist which requires why they did not consider the current state of the discussion sufficient to determine a closure result
(see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luke Smith (The Sarah Jane Adventures)). Thanks and best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:45, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, I relisted from the assessment table, where one of the sources indicated by the nominator himself would be valid for WP:GNG. With another week, perhaps other sources would emerge, and the evaluation by more regular users would become clearer (looking at the AfD again I believe that is exactly what is happening).
- About the third relist of Luke Smith, I'll avoid that from now on and develop my argument better. Thank you for the feedback. Svartner (talk) 06:07, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting that this has now, correctly I feel, been closed as delete. I don't think I've previously seen "source table which concludes it lacks notability" used as justification for the opposite. You did not indicate you read (or reread) WP:RELISTBIAS but I will again suggest you do so, as this kind of reasoning is exactly what it warns against. I would have closed it as delete before the relist because there was no policy based reasoning - including in what you offer here - for weighting any of the keeps, while there was ample policy based reasons for deleting. This kind of weighting is at the heart of our consensus system and why non-admin closers must be particularly adept at not simply doing an action at AfD just because they have the ability to do it. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:49, 2 November 2025 (UTC)