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Koos Kombuis
Hey Wayne, sorry for the misunderstanding, I was using the Fokofpolisiekar Discography as an example of a Discography, which didn't use the italics. But after looking at other examples you are definitely correct about the italics. I fixed up both articles.
I have never before today heard of Wikipedia:Write the article first, but thanks for the link, i've read it and will keep it in mind going forward. I have cleaned up the Koos Kombuis Discography and will re link them after finishing up the pages.
PJS v News Group Newspapers
I suggest you self-revert this edit and join the talkpage discussion instead. Also, take a look at WP:BLPSOURCES. The National Enquirer is not a reliable source... AusLondonder (talk) 22:12, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
I am wondering why
you removed a large chunk of the Frederick Hart (sculptor) article? einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:15, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't believe I deleted anything, I merely consolidated duplicated information. Wayne Jayes (talk) 20:45, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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Guardian article I thought I would share this with you in case you hadn't seen it. ;-) No, I have no intention: but it could lead to an interesting themed wikimeetup --ClemRutter (talk) 19:30, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for sharing, I had in fact seen it, and wished Jacob Zuma could have made the same kind of mistake. Wayne Jayes (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
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There are dozens of archival services besides Wayback. Also, the article likely can be found in commercial databases like ProQuest etc.. and even if not, the source is just offline in hardcopy form, which is still a valid cite. -- GreenC 14:53, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- User:Green Cardamom None of the archive services which I have access to (Google cache, archive.org, archive.is or coral web cache return a viable page, all return a some variation of a 404 error. All wikipedia references have to be verifiable, these web citations are not verifiable. I suggest you change them to refer to specific pages of the specific paper magazines (as I don't have them) and then re insert them in the article. They are quite useless at present. Wayne Jayes (talk) 16:02, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Of course they are verifiable. Did you try WP:REX? Your local library? ProQuest? It's just a magazine article you don't need page numbers. -- GreenC 16:24, 30 July 2016 (UTC)- Never mind I see there is no information on article title so you're right there is no way to track it down without that. -- GreenC 16:33, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks for starting the article. I'd thought about it, but was unsure as to her notability in WP terms - we'll see if others question it. Have you checked out the sources I added at the "So Long Marianne" page? Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:12, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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- User:Ghmyrtle, thanks for the comment User:Marianne727 and i have exchanged emails, and I have apologised for WP:BITE. Wayne Jayes (talk) 07:23, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Waynejayes! Could you please explain your changes to the system of referencing at Helen-Ann Hartley? I see from your contributions that you have also been changing <ref></ref> to sfn on some pages (such as Rolf Gardiner). What's the reasoning behind that too? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 13:00, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- sfn has some advantages over <ref></ref>
- Provided you put ref=harv in the cite template wikipedia creates a hyperlink from the sfn to the cite templates which make checking references very easy.
- sfn takes up less space in the body of the article and makes it much easier to read when editing the source text of the article.
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I do try to avoid changing the referencing style where there is an existing consistent referencing system in an article, where there are mixed referencing styles, wikipedia policy does allow the changing of the mixed styles to a consistent style.Wayne Jayes (talk) 13:15, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Using the example of Helen-Ann Hartley, you have changed an established reference style by moving the full references out of the main text. You may think the style you've introduced is better, but that is your personal preference. If you find an article's references are a mess of different styles or bare urls, feel free (and please do) clean them up to your preferred style. However, as per WP:CITEVAR: "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference". Given your explanation, and your edits to some articles, this appears to be what you have been doing. As for ease of editing, that relies on someone understanding sfn templates which is not something that comes as default when editing Wikipedia. If you are annoyed by having the full references in the main text, can I suggest that you have a look at turning on the syntax highlighter where is found on the preferences page under Gadgets. I use this and find it helpful. As for the changes to references, I shall be reverting your changes to Helen-Ann Hartley, can I suggest you do the same to the other articles you have altered. Thank you for adding the publication to her article. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 17:57, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
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- User:Gaia Octavia Agrippa, the Anglican Shrine of Our Lady of Walsingham article is very poorly sourced. I most definitely did not delete the links simply because they were not working, but because they were not working AND that they were not independent of the article. Wayne Jayes (talk) 21:04, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- I see now; I couldn't understand your edit summary. While preferable, it is not required to use independent sources for simple facts as per WP:SELFSOURCE. The references you removed were supporting the names and years of the various priest administrators, which is acceptable. I didn't add them, an ip did, though I should have cleaned the up at the time. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 21:17, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
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CrawfordSchools North Coast
Good day.
I work for a digital company and our client is CrawfordSchools. I see that you are the person editing the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_College,_North_Coast. Please understand that my client is not happy with your representation of their brand name. The school is not called "Crawford College, North Coast" as it also has Preparatory and pre-primary. The school is simply called CrawfordSchools North Coast. This Wikipedia page is affecting our digital efforts mainly Google my business. We kindly request that you change the pages name to the correct one which is "CrawfordSchools North Coast".
Thank you in advanced
+27 (0) 31 536 3419 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moringa tea (talk • contribs) 06:32, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
- Moringa tea, First of all, I do not take kindly to the implied threat in your words, "Please understand that my client is not happy with your representation of their brand name". The wikidedia page in question is not the property of AdvTech and wikipedia editors, following the WP:Five pillars will continue to edit the page as they see fit.
- Secondly please see WP:PROMOTION and WP:PAID, you appear to be in violation of wikipedia's terms of use as you have not disclosed you are earning a fee for editing the wikipedia page about Crawford College, North Coast.
- Finally please see WP:COMMONNAME, the school is commonly known as Crawford College North Coast, and unless and until it is commonly known by some other name that is how it will be referred on wikipedia. Furthermore,I direct you to the company's own web page
"A warm welcome from Crawford College North Coast. We strive to nurture our students to become well-rounded, confident people. Our campus located in the sugarcane belt along the Dolphin Coast of KwaZulu-Natal provides a caring, friendly and inclusive environment in which we celebrate all our students’ achievements."
— Elite Private College in North Coast at the Wayback Machine (archived 2019-05-31)
- Wayne Jayes (talk) 07:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
I apologise if my tone seemed threatening, I dd not mean to come across as a brut. but Crawford college North Coast is not the commonly known name and the page you have cited https://www.crawfordschools.co.za/north-coast-college and the main page for the school is actually https://www.crawfordschools.co.za/our-schools#NorthCoast and under that, there is also https://www.crawfordschools.co.za/north-coast-pre-primary and https://www.crawfordschools.co.za/north-coast-preparatory. Please give me a call or let me call you so I can discuss this with you as it is affecting the brand, with the understanding that we don't own Wikipedia this can help both of us come to a resolution
+27 (0) 31 536 3419 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moringa tea (talk • contribs) 07:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
The other thing, I am not getting paid to edit the page, hence I am asking you to make the changes. I am an SEO manager, I get paid to optimise their website and their Google my business and I found that your page is affecting the job I am doing on Google my business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moringa tea (talk • contribs) 07:27, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
South African Class 5E1, Series 2
Re South African Class 5E1, Series 2 etc. I was wondering about this. This anomaly is the work of the late Andre Kritzinger and occurs in all articles about premetrication South African locomotives, be they electric, diesel and steam. That was Andre Kritzinger's way of doing things. Feel free to make the necessary corrections as speedily as your precious time permits. Give me the date of South African metrication and I'll see if I can follow your example. Peter Horn User talk 13:27, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
