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Hi @ZLEA: how are registrations of military aircraft (more specifically French aircraft) formatted? For example, according to Aerial Visuals, the C-54 was given the serial "s/n 49148" and bore the markings "9148", whilst the Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives says that the C-54 was registered as "49148/F-YEGA". How should the aircraft's registration be formatted/given? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:27, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

Aviationwikiflight the example you picked appears to be an unusual case. The aircraft was originally assigned the serial number "44-9148" by the USAAF, though it wore the truncated markings "49148" on its tail (a common practice during the 1940s, commonly called a "tail number"). It seems that when the French Navy acquired the aircraft, they kept the tail number rather than assigning a new registration or serial number. My best guess is that the French government was still recovering from the Nazi occupation and had more important things to do than come up with a new serialization system. "F-YEGA" is simply a call sign, not a registration. Some sources seem to confuse such call signs for civilian registrations, since they seemingly follow the latter's format, but they do not appear in France's aircraft registry.
It seems the modern French military does not use a standardized serialization system like the US. Instead, they use the manufacturer serial number, which means that aircraft of different types can have overlapping serial numbers. - ZLEA TǀC 09:33, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

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Thank you for your edit. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:43, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

You may not agree with the political perspective of this person who is speaking, but we should never stop trying to make the world a better place. Forgive me if it appears that I have disrespected you by copying over this link. Kind regards, Buckshot06 (talk) 19:03, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
Buckshot06 No disrespect taken. As we all know, it can be hard to build an encyclopedia in a divided environment. We all have our opinions, biases, and our own personal perceptions of truth that can make it hard to build a subjective encyclopedia. Such is human nature, and we all have our own ways of dealing with it. I don't actively avoid topics that I have biases towards or against, at least not in the way I did years ago, but it kind of helps that my main interest isn't in politics in general.
One piece of advice I think everyone should follow is to ask yourself one question before you publish: Am I making this edit out of anger or frustration towards the situation? If the answer is yes, then maybe consider holding off. If the answer is yes but you still think there is encyclopedic value to it, maybe make an edit request on the talk page so others can weigh in. We are all here to build an encyclopedia, so we should all work together to ensure it's done right. There's no shame in acknowledging one's own biases, and doing so not only help others understand you better, but can also help with your own awareness of previously subconscious biases, allowing you to manage them more easily. - ZLEA TǀC 20:28, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
Many thanks for your kind and restrained thoughts!! Congratulations and 11/10!! - cannot tell from your reply above which side of the divide you fall on!! Merry Christmas and happy holidays!! Buckshot06 (talk) 16:15, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Right back at you! Have a happy new year as well! - ZLEA TǀC 16:24, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

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Here's to a... hopefully less-chaotic year, eh? EF5 18:30, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
EF5 Indeed! I doubt it will be any less chaotic, but hopefully it'll at least be chaotic in a good way. - ZLEA TǀC 16:23, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

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What am I suppose to do?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippine_Airlines_Flight_475&action=history


This editor keeps reverting my edits even after I go to the talk page and seek consensus. they say, "it is a imaginary consensus". Zaptain United (talk) 14:58, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

I've told the editor to read WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS. If they have a legitimate reason to prefer the original image, they should bring it up on the talk page per WP:BRD. If they don't have such a reason, then they should self revert. - ZLEA TǀC 18:59, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
Could I revert their edits or would that be edit warring. Zaptain United (talk) 19:02, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
Let's wait a day or two to give them a chance to self revert. I see that you've has run-ins with this user in the past, so hopefully this can be an opportunity to ease tensions. If they ignore the pings or refuse to do so but still don't voice their opinions on the images themselves, I'll probably restore your edit to remove the only (illegitimate) concern they've actually voiced. - ZLEA TǀC 19:08, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

Do you know if Luxembourg Airport had changed their name in the past?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_Airport#

It said it was formerly known as Luxembourg Findel Airport, but I don't know if they officially changed their name. I need to solve this confusion for this draft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:2001_MK_Airlines_Boeing_747_crash Zaptain United (talk) 05:42, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Not sure about this one. The airport's website does not mention any past names. The website almost exclusively refers to the airport as "Luxembourg Airport", but some websites such as Flightradar24 use "Luxembourg Findel Airport". It's probably best to use "Luxembourg Airport" unless the sources indicate that it was known by a different name at the time. - ZLEA TǀC 09:42, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

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Happy First Edit Anniversary ZLEA 🎉

Hey @ZLEA. Your wiki edit anniversary is today, marking 9 years of dedicated contributions to English Wikipedia. Your passion for sharing knowledge and your remarkable contributions have not only enriched the project, but also inspired countless others to contribute. Thank you for your amazing contributions. Wishing you many more wonderful years ahead in the Wiki journey and a blessed New Year. :) -❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 17:32, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Has it been 9 years already? Wow, I'm getting old. - ZLEA TǀC 18:23, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

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Should I change the title?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Valan_International_Cargo_Charter_Antonov_An-26_crash#

the final report said vol KONDOR 26, which translates to Kondor Flight 26. Zaptain United (talk) 02:11, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

There was a requested move in 2021, but that was by a sockpuppeter and they didn't receive a response when they replied. Zaptain United (talk) 02:12, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
https://bea.ci/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/RAPPORT-FINAL-ER-AVB-BEA-CI-mars2019-1.pdf Zaptain United (talk) 02:13, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
Zaptain United The consensus established by that move request is still valid even after the proposer was blocked for sockpuppetry. Therefore, the best course of action would be to start a new move request, ideally with much more convincing arguments than last one. - ZLEA TǀC 08:14, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
Do you think Flight 26 is the flight number? Zaptain United (talk) 03:59, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
I think "KONDOR 26" was the callsign. Without reliable sources, we cannot equate that to "Kondor Flight 26". Doing so would be WP:OR. - ZLEA TǀC 04:03, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
But, the final report states vol KONDOR 26, which is Kondor Flight 26. Zaptain United (talk) 04:04, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
I suppose that's a good point. If you believe that's sufficient evidence to convince people to change the consensus, then you should at least try and open a new move request. I personally would look for at least one other source first, just to be safe. - ZLEA TǀC 04:11, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Beta Technologies Alia

Hi Zlea. If you've not done so already, you might like to take a look at the new sources mentioned at Talk:Beta Technologies. I've incorporated most into that article but some could also be used for your Alia article. Regards. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:06, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Michael D. Turnbull Thanks, I'll take a look. - ZLEA TǀC 15:37, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:27, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Could you block this user?

This user just types in wrong fatalitiy numbers and has keep doing that. The worrying part is that nobody reverts there vandalism for many hours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2026-23862-8 Zaptain United (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Zaptain United I am not an admin, so I cannot block the user. I have given them a level 1 warning for unsourced changes. If they continue after a final (level 4) warning, you can report them to WP:AIV. - ZLEA TǀC 20:23, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
The only thing is, I've checked multiple sources and they seem to show that in this case, @Zaptain United is correct in every single instance of reversion. These edits were incorrect and he/she/they had every right to revert them. ~2026-21637 (talk) 02:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
Yeah, this appears to be yet another case of what some like to call "number vandalism", which is a usually WP:SNEAKY form of vandalism in which an editor deliberately changes numbers to wrong values. This can be difficult to distinguish from good faith unsourced changes, but in this case we have an apparent reference to 69 and a very drastic increase in casualty numbers. As much as I would like to assume good faith, these two examples make it hard to believe that this could be anything other than vandalism. - ZLEA TǀC 03:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
Indeed. ~2026-21637 (talk) 11:53, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

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Could you help me find the registration number for this incident?

Aerolíneas Argentinas Flight 342 Zaptain United (talk) 14:14, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Zaptain United I was unable to find any sources (interestingly, not even unreliable sources) for its registration, and it appears that not even ASN wikibase has any idea what the registration was. If not even ASN has it, then I think it's safe to say the registration was not publicly reported. It also appears that the NTSB never formally investigated the incident, so we have no such reports to look at. The only idea I have to find the registration is to contact Aerolíneas Argentinas directly, as maybe they still have the flight logs from that day. That said, there's no guarantee they'd give that information even if they have it, and it certainly would not be usable on Wikipedia. - ZLEA TǀC 14:28, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
What about this one? Aerolíneas Argentinas Flight 386
The only mention of any registration number is with Simple Flying, which is an unreliable source. Could you find another source mentioning the flight number for this incident?  Zaptain United (talk) 14:30, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Also, maybe this one as well? United Airlines Flight 863 Zaptain United (talk) 14:31, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Cross-searching for Aerolíneas Argentinas Flight 386 and the claimed registration did not bring up any reliable sources. I did see someone on Reddit speculate that Simple Flying might have used an older version of the Wikipedia article as its source, which sadly makes sense to me. United Airlines Flight 863 appears to be a similar case to the others. It seems these three incidents were never formally investigated, or at least that their registrations were never publicly reported. - ZLEA TǀC 14:40, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
alright thanks for trying. Zaptain United (talk) 23:22, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

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Should the name in the article be changed and should I do a RFC on it?

I think it should be changed to American Eagle Flight 5342 from American Airlines Flight 5342. For one, all the other American Eagle accident articles have American Eagle or the Regional Airline in the title or article. There are more search results for American Eagle Flight 5342. American Airlines uses American Eagle itself. Just today, sources are using American Eagle instead of American Airlines.


https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2025/Information-regarding-American-Eagle-Flight-5342/default.aspx


https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2025/Information-regarding-American-Eagle-Flight-5342/default.aspx Zaptain United (talk) 20:05, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

It is also just plain inaccurate. American Airlines does NOT operate the Bombardier CRJ700 series of aircraft per the fleet page: see here. Zaptain United (talk) 20:06, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
Zaptain United This has actually been discussed several times on the article's talk page. See Name of commercial airline flight and Name of commercial airline flight (2). It's been almost a year since the last discussion, so I recommend bringing it up again to see if the consensus changes. - ZLEA TǀC 20:22, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

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What do you think of this "evidence"?

I respect you as a editor who is calm and respectful. Their user thinks I am a sockpuppet of this other banned user in the past because I edit many aircraft accident articles just like they did. I think they are cherrypicking and not including that I edit many other aircraft accident articles and have edited on articles the sockpuppeter nominated for deletion because I disagree with their decisions. I am probarly screw by admin because of the events going on at the Haneda runway collision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yamla#Checkuser,_well_check Zaptain United (talk) 20:05, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Zaptain United I'll be honest, this doesn't look very good. I'm not an admin, so I can't see the deleted contributions they mentioned, but based on everything else I would not call their suspicions unfounded. Both you and TG-article seem to have very similar interests and editing patterns, and it doesn't take cherrypicking to recognize them. Your account was also created only three months after TG-article's block, which could be seen as evidence for block evasion.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not accusing you of being a sockpuppet or evading a block, and this could all be a coincidence (I've seen quite a few of those in my time here). However, I think most editors would agree that it's at least worth looking into. Yamla has a lot of experience investigating sockpuppetry, so I trust their judgement. If you're not evading a block, then I don't think you have much to worry about and this should all blow over quickly. - ZLEA TǀC 22:22, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

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I just want to say out of the editors I ever met here; I found you the one of the more likeable and respectful editors. This is why I commented more for your advice, and you were one of the few positives of editing. Anyway, I am busy with my personal life, and the last few days of Wikipedia have been taking an insane amount of time away. I realize it is not worth it especially battling an admin who never seems to give up and is obsessive with me. I don't require you to comment on this post and you can even remove this if you want, but I just want to say thank you for your respectfulness, advice, and great passion for aviation. I disagree with you on few things, but you were more nice than other editors. Anyway, I wish you good luck on Wikipedia and goodbye at least for the foreseeable future. Zaptain United (talk) 02:40, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. I cannot say I agreed with you all the time, or perhaps even most of the time. I think you had a lot to learn about how Wikipedia operates, but I could see that you had good intentions everywhere I encountered you. If Wikipedia isn't for you, then I'd like to wish you good luck on your future endeavors! - ZLEA TǀC 05:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
Goodbye. Just don't drive like my brother. Zaptain United (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
"Don't drive like my brother!"
—Rusty Rust-eze, Cars Zaptain United (talk) 04:01, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
Good luck going forward! It's hard to believe Cars is 20 years old this year. I practically grew up with it. - ZLEA TǀC 05:08, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you didn't have the best of experiences on Wikipedia and I wish you the best of luck for the future! (And gosh I feel old. Cars was that long ago?) Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:50, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

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I'm back baby

Hey, I am back after a break. Needed some time to reflect on Wikipedia for a little bit. I just want to ask you a question. Do you think it should be American Eagle Flight 5342 or American Airlines Flight 5342? I ask you earlier, but you told me to do an RFC than give your opinion on this matter. I just want your advice on this. It has just been bothering me since every other regional airline crash has the regional airline or main airline in the title. Zaptain United (talk) 15:09, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

I personally would prefer "American Eagle Flight 5342" for consistency, but there were strong arguments on both sides. The only advice I have is to start an RfC. Most of the discussions about its name occurred within the months after the accident, so sources were still coming in at a rapid rate. Now that we've had a year to settle, I think now is a perfect time to see if consensus has changed. - ZLEA TǀC 17:45, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
Do you think I should start it when the final report releases? Zaptain United (talk) 17:48, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
I would probably start with examples of secondary sources using "American Eagle Flight 5342", then showing that the NTSB and American Airlines themselves use that name. - ZLEA TǀC 18:08, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

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Clarification of Service Withdrawal and Fleet Statistics

Although commercial passenger service was withdrawn in 1978, the Tu-144 program continued until production and development officially ceased in 1983. Of the 17 airframes produced, 7 remain preserved in museums, 8 have been scrapped (including 77101, which survives only as a nose section), and 2 were destroyed in crashes." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:50, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

The total production included 17 airframes. The count of 8 scrapped includes one incomplete airframe (09-2, CCCP-77116) that was never finished, as well as the partially dismantled 77101. 7 preserved in museums 8 scrapped and 2 destroyed ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:54, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I have moved the specific dates (1978, 1983, 1999) to the 'Retired' field to better reflect the program's timeline. For the 'Status' field, I updated it to reflect the physical disposition of the 17 total airframes produced: 7 preserved in museums, 8 scrapped (including the incomplete airframe 77116 and the dismantled 77101), and 2 destroyed. This provides a more accurate overview of the fleet's fate." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:58, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I am aligning the Infobox format with the Concorde article. By moving the service years (1978, 1983) to the 'Retired' field, the 'Status' field can accurately reflect the Fate of the 17 airframes produced: 7 preserved in museums, 8 scrapped (including the incomplete 77116 and dismantled 77101), and 2 destroyed." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:59, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I understand the concern about redundancy, but the updated fate (7 preserved, 8 scrapped including incomplete airframes, and 2 destroyed) is intended to provide a clear summary in the Infobox, matching the format used in the Concorde article. The current body text is inconsistent regarding the total of 17 airframes, and this edit clarifies the disposition of all produced units ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 07:06, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I noticed you reverted my edit. I’d like to clarify that the count of 7 preserved, 8 scrapped, and 2 destroyed accounts for the 17 total airframes produced.
Out of the 17 airframes, 16 were completed and 1 (77116) remained incomplete at the Voronezh plant before being scrapped. I have classified the partially dismantled 77101 (nose only) as 'scrapped' to be consistent with the definition of a 'preserved aircraft' used in the Concorde article.
I moved the service dates to the 'Retired' field to maintain better Infobox structure. Please let me know if you have concerns about this specific breakdown." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 07:10, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
Fine, I'll leave the status and retired fields separate. That said, I have removed the false claim that the aircraft was retired from commercial service in 1983. The aircraft was retired from passenger service in 1978. To claim that it was "retired from commercial service" in 1983 implies that it was operating in some sort of commercial capacity after 1978, which is not supported anywhere in the article and, as far as I'm aware, completely false. - ZLEA TǀC 08:24, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I prefer keeping 'Retired from commercial service (1983)' as it correctly encompasses all revenue-generating operations, including cargo and mail, which are standard commercial activities. Furthermore, this year marks the official termination of the entire program, including the scrapping of the unfinished airframe (77116). Splitting it into passenger (1978), commercial (1983), and final flight (1999) provides the most comprehensive timeline for the reader." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 09:35, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
No, it absolutely does not. It only creates more confusion for readers, who often assume "commercial service" means "passenger service". Please change it back to "cargo". - ZLEA TǀC 17:43, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
Since we agree on separating the fields and the significance of 1983 (the official termination of the program and the scrapping of 77116), I will address the potential confusion by being more specific. I will use 'Retired from passenger service (1978)' and 'Retired from commercial cargo service (1983)'. This preserves the revenue-generating (commercial) nature of the 1979–1983 operations while explicitly preventing readers from assuming passengers were involved." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 07:21, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
That's more reasonable, but still implies that it continued non-commercial cargo service beyond 1983. Here's my proposal:
Passenger service (1978)
Cargo service (1983)
Research (1999)
After that, we populate the currently unused "last_flight" parameter with "26 June 1999". - ZLEA TǀC 20:21, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
Actually, the claim is supported by historical records. After passenger service ended in 1978, the Tu-144D variant operated a regular commercial cargo and mail service between Moscow and Khabarovsk starting in 1979. These were scheduled revenue flights under Aeroflot, which constitutes commercial service.
Furthermore, the program was officially terminated by a Soviet government decree in July 1983, which is why the last airframe (77116) remained unfinished and was scrapped. To align with the 16 (1 unfinished) production count and the 8 scrapped status, 1983 must be recognized as the end of the commercial program." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 09:36, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

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