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Ali Zafar vs. Meesha Shafi

• Hi. I have nominated this article for WP:ITN. However, the problem is that currently Wikipedia lacks sufficient updates regarding the defamation case by Zafar against Meesha Shafi. We have multiple WP:MIRROR informations, including Ali Zafar#Controversies, MeToo movement in Pakistan#Film industry, and Meesha Shafi#Ali Zafar Incident. But these still are scattered. Can anyone please make one article for it, and redirect each sections? Thank you! M. Billoo 14:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Copied information from all three pages here: User:M.Billoo2000/Ali Zafar vs. Meesha Shafi. However, it is still untidy. A reference article to look up would be Depp v. Heard. M. Billoo 18:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Created and expanded Ali Zafar vs. Meesha Shafi, a mainspace page. M. Billoo 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1346397719: ITN nom failed due to BLPPRIVACY and SNOW. M. Billoo 20:42, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

Inflation

• One more concern. The suit was of Rs. 100 crore filed in June 2018, but the court ruled in March 2026 for only Rs. 50 lakh. In terms of PKR valuation, it is 200 times difference. But in terms of inflation, the US$1 was about Rs. 121.143 at that date, but is now about Rs. 279.053 at current date. This makes the difference 460.7 times lesser. M. Billoo 17:30, 31 March 2026 (UTC)

The inflation and valuation is noted here (not exact value, just for reference). M. Billoo 14:32, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

DYK?

• Hi. Can an article, created after copy-pasting chunks from multiple other articles, be nominated for DYK? Note that at the time of the original copy-paste, the draft was 7905 B. However, the recent state of the article says 10314 characters (1465 words), and displays eligibility for DYK due to newness after being moved to mainspace. Note that it was disapproved from the ITN. And similarly, I do not see any such visible history on Talk:Depp v. Heard or Talk:MeToo movement, being featured on DYK or ITN. So, this makes me curious. Regardless, can I still request an independent review here, because it seems that the article may still not qualify WP:NPOV despite being stable enough for WP:N and WP:V. Thank you! M. Billoo 04:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Discussion here: Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Query: Zafar vs. Shafi. Ty. M. Billoo 14:47, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Sensational Gossip?

@Cameron Dewe: Hi, hope you are doing well. Thank you for your assessment and feedback on the article. Can you please specifically highlight which prose falls under SENSATIONAL or GOSSIP violation?

By subject and by the recent verdict, this may look like a dispute between the two individuals only, however, details in the article explain how many other people and brands were also involved. I have also linked the verdict pdf of 158 pages, but solely depending on it would be PRIMARY only. So, I am still gathering as many secondary references over the years as possible to rely over that document, and also to neutralize it with the claims of the defendant as per the NPOV. Otherwise, the article would also look like biased and one sided. There was not only one case, but more than 40 cases were derived within, and apparently the defendant can still file their appeal challenging the verdict. And the main thing the plaintiff quotes, he was being forced to loose contracts to end his career.

So in short, it is:

• Zafar vs. Shafi
• Shafi vs. Zafar
• Zafar vs. Ali Gul Pir
• Leena Ghani vs. Zafar
• Zafar vs. Pepsi
• Zafar vs. PSL
• ... and so on.

So I believe, every case should need an intro, a main body story, and the current status (or the last possible update), all complying WP:N, WP:V, and WP:NPOV. That is what I am trying to do to at least explain the proceedings. You may see that I have only introduced some other names in the article as well without explaining about them any much, including Ali Sibtain Fazli, Saba Hameed, Nighat Dad, Humna Raza, etc.

There may be many other gossips in the Pakistan entertainment industry as a reaction and aftermath of this case, like:

• Fawad Khan who in 2018 was with Shafi at Pepsi, but with Zafar as well in Teefa's promotion
• Momina Mustehsan commenting on the case
• Journalist Mahwash Ajaz first siding Shafi then siding Zafar
• Journalist Iqrar Ul Hassan's reactions
• Actresses Ayesha Omar, Maya Ali's reactions
• ... and so on. These are the gossips that I believe have nothing to do with the case or both the title parties and should not be included.

At one glance, witnesses are also introduced in the article of Depp v. Heard, and article of Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse cases also contains 100+ victims' names. But there are still (or should be at least) both sides' stories to comply NPOV.

Still, looking forward to your (and anyone else's as well) comments. Thank you! M. Billoo 13:27, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

@M.Billoo2000: I think the whole article about Ali Zafar vs. Meesha Shafi borders on being WP:SENSATIONAL. The title of the article suggests it is about a legal case. However, only one paragraph in the section headed Zafar's defamation suit actually appears to be about the named court case in the title. However, I don't see anything in the article that explains why this case is precedent setting or novel in terms of any legal decision made about the case. The rest of the article appears to be a WP:COATRACK for something else that is going on between Ali Zafar and Meesha Shafi. This article looks like something I would read in a tabloid journal, which is why I added the comment that "Wikipedia is not a gossip column. WP:NOTGOSSIP.". I wonder how this article is encyclopaedic. The catalyst event in this case is not the court case, but Meesha Shafi alleging she was sexually harassed. If this article were named differently, such as the "sexual harassment of Meesha Shafi by Ali Zafar", which is what the article MeToo movement in Pakistan describe this event as, perhaps I would have a different opinion, as a different title would change my expectations of what the article is really about. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 00:16, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

@Cameron Dewe: Thank you for responding. I may agree with the title change. But do you have any better suggestion(s)? The current suggestion seems very biased / non-NPOV, considering the nature of the legal battle and where it stands right now. And again, I would say, there are multiple cases derived out of Shafi's allegations and Zafar's denial, so mentioning all worth. I can also consider reshaping the article by using different levels of headings without missing any current information. M. Billoo 07:18, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

@Cameron Dewe: This website provides summary of court proceedings in Zafar's defamation case from a recent interview by Zafar's lawyer on YouTube. Everything is so much related in the defamation and cybercrime cases that are worth mentioning here and is not COATRACK. Still awaiting your response, thank you! M. Billoo 19:26, 14 April 2026 (UTC)