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 | On 22 January 2026, it was proposed that this page be moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (policy and guideline). The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Proposal to change the header
The header for this Village pump begins with these words:
The policy section of the village pump is used to discuss already proposed policies and guidelines and to discuss changes to existing policies and guidelines.
A few editors seem to think that this means editors should not discuss changes to existing policies and guidelines on the talk pages of those same policies and guidelines (the talk pages that say, at their tops, things like "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the What Wikipedia is not page").
If you are interested in this, please see Wikipedia talk:Policies and guidelines#Venue. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Adding Official Sources as references
See Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Adding Official Sources as references WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:46, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Follow up on the temporary account discussion
Requested move 22 January 2026
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOW, there is unanimous consensus that this short title is correct and that WP:PRECISE does not apply. (closed by non-admin page mover) Thanks, 1isall (talk | contribs) . . (he/him) 15:38, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) → Wikipedia:Village pump (policy and guideline) – Per WP:PRECISE, that's because this section of the village pump is intended for discussions about not only policies, but also guidelines, both already-proposed, as well as changes to existing ones, and per WP:CONSISTENT, to match the Wikipedia project page name at 'Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines'. PK2 (talk; contributions) 10:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose This is not an article, so WP:Article titles does not apply, but if it did we'd want to consider WP:CONCISE and WP:COMMONNAME. Better to retain the long-standing and short name than changing to an overly verbose one. Anomie⚔ 12:52, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose because it's grammatically inconsistent. "Policy" in the current title is an uncountable noun, and nobody would refer to guidelines collectively in the singular, so the new title would need to be "policy and guidelines", but then that's a mix of uncountable and countable. It would need to be "policies and guidelines", and that would actually be consistent with the project page title. I'm not bothered by the length of the title increasing, a redirect would take care of muscle memory. — Hex • talk 13:50, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose The shortname is better and not ambiguous, that a project is named a certain way is of no importance, WP:CONSISTENT and WP:PRECISE are about article titles. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 22:57, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose Totally pointless. Perfection is unattainable. Johnuniq (talk) 00:28, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, basically per Hex. This change is ungrammatical and unnecessary. Toadspike [Talk] 16:53, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose in addition to the points raised by the others, "policy" as an uncountable noun can be fairly intuitively understood to mean "Wikipedia's written rules and norms," thereby including guidelines. Athanelar (talk) 12:11, 24 January 2026 (UTC)