Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football

I have no issues at all with a 'Player of the Year' navbox, and plenty of them in Category:Association football club Player of the Year navigational boxes - but what about {{Wrexham A.F.C. Young Player of the Year}}? I think it's overkill, and as far as I can see, the only one of its kind... GiantSnowman 21:15, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Yeah I always felt it was overkill. EchetusXe 10:14, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Nea Salamis Famagusta FC has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:13, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

As we tend to see this sort of thing being added to player/manager articles at this time of year, can I confirm that the consensus is that gaining promotion by finishing third (or even second) is not considered an "honour" in the sense of what goes in an "Honours" section....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:24, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

If no trophies or medals are given, then there is no honour! Govvy (talk) 09:00, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

I've seen photos of third place teams getting promoted getting a trophy, so it's meaningless. GiantSnowman 17:49, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

This is apparently a fairly recent derby, and I can find little to nothing confirming that the matchup is actually referred to as the North derby. Would any UK editors be able to weigh in or identify sources that I'm missing? Google is very bare and I'm going to AfD this if no one finds anything. Alyo (chat·edits) 16:55, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Hello, is there currently a consensus that assists should not be included in league season statistics? Is there any justification for them being available in one league season and not in others? I only see them rarely (and not at all in the top leagues), so I thought the consensus was still that they are against WP:NOTSTATS. I personally also believe that this is too much detail and they should not appear. This topic was opened in Talk:2025–26 First Professional Football League (Bulgaria)#Statistics when I removed them from the Bulgarian league, so I'm moving the discussion here. FromCzech (talk) 09:31, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

There have been many discussions (feel free to search the archives) and the consensus is not to include them. Not neccesarily NOTSTATS, but also as they aren't clearly understood what they are and different sources count them differently (for example if player A is fouled in the box and player B converts, does player A get an assist? or if player C passes and player D converts after turning towards goal, does player C get an assist?) --SuperJew (talk) 10:12, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

FromCzech has removed the assist section per WP:FOOTY consensus now twice. I find that them trying to apply WP:FOOTY's standards goes against WP:PROJ.

The consensus, as far as what I was linked, was simply discussions where two sides disagreed, and outside of 1 heated discussion about a Ukrainian league season page, it was mostly about personal player article pages.

I agree that assists, as a statistical metric that is judged differently by different sources for different leagues, has no place in player article pages in the statistics part - you can't really compare assists as listed by ESPN for a US League to assists as listed by another source for Ligue 1, for instance, in the context of a player that played in both.

The above makes sense. What doesn't make sense is applying said logic en masse to a League season page where we have credible sources:

• Bulgarian-Football is a go-to statistical website that has been around for over 3 decades. This is what is used throughout this season's page and previous ones.
• Efbetleague.com is the official League website - the data is also available there, clearly stipulated for each team's players.

WP:NOSTATS does not apply to assists in this specific case, thus consensus (even if applying it doesn't break WP:PROJ) is also not applicable - we have an official source plus a high-quality source, whether the assists logged by either of those (and we can argue which one should be used) are comparable to another league's sourced assists should not matter for their inclusion.--Yupyuphello (talk) 12:26, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

As retained lists are being released throughout the EFL, could players who are out of contract and leaving the club be put in an 'outgoing players' category on the club's page similar to when on loan, or is it better leaving them in the squad box until 30th June? Bobster1001 (talk) 11:41, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

I would endorse that. It would potentially save seven weeks of them being edited in and out of the club's article -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:42, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, I tend to include them in an 'outgoing players' sub-section of the 'current squad' section.

As a wider general reminder, in the English system, contracts end on 30 June (so players leave clubs on that date) and begin on 1 July (so players join new clubs on that date). Please wait until those dates before updating player articles etc. GiantSnowman 17:12, 6 May 2026 (UTC)

Any Swans people out there, to "be aware" of the subject's whereabouts? I visited Pontardawe Town A.F.C. official website, could not retrieve any pertinent info. Also, this quick Google search yielded nothing solid as well (https://www.google.com/search?q=%C3%A1ngel+rangel+manager+pontardawe&sca_esv=8639ec9b40ab010a&rlz=1C1GCEU_pt-PTPT1141PT1141&ei=RIH8af32BYvti-gPmqmEyA0&ved=0ahUKEwj9qMXbkqeUAxWL9gIHHZoUAdkQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=%C3%A1ngel+rangel+manager+pontardawe&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiIMOhbmdlbCByYW5nZWwgbWFuYWdlciBwb250YXJkYXdlMgUQABjvBTIFEAAY7wUyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBEiRKlDQC1i5InABeACQAQCYAZQBoAG8B6oBAzIuNrgBA8gBAPgBAZgCBqAClQXCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgIXEC4Y3AYYuAYY2gYY2AIYyAMYsAPYAQHCAgcQIRgKGKABmAMAiAYBkAYFugYECAEYGZIHAzIuNKAHnRqyBwMxLjS4B4cFwgcHMC4yLjMuMcgHGIAIAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp; one LinkedIn post by him does indicate he was also in charge of the club's under-15s)...

Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 12:14, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

From the articles about his appointment as U12s manager, it was because his son was in that age group. 3 seasons later, his son is in the U15s. On the surface, it seems he is doing what many parents do as coaches in grass-roots sports : following their child through the system. I guess Pontardawe made a big deal of it at the time, but similar to other clubs at those levels, they won't list age group managers anywhere. He has retired from top-level football and not sure there is anything else worthy of note about him since. Spike 'em (talk) 12:38, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Juan Alvina#Requested move 30 April 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 23:48, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

The redirect Wikipedia:SEASONS has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 May 8 § Wikipedia:SEASONS until a consensus is reached. George Ho (talk) 12:19, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

This article has been proposed for deletion. Please review and improve. Bearian (talk) 23:40, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Bearian:, we usually have about a handful of football-related AfDs daily: Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Football. Is there a reason to highlight this particular one? Robby.is.on (talk) 00:19, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Yes, he might be notable, but since I don't follow football/soccer any more, I'm not sure. Bearian (talk) 02:38, 9 May 2026 (UTC)