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How to describe this game?

I have destubbed Star Reach (video game) (1994) and expanded it based on some reviews (MG lists a few more, but I haven' found them yet, PC Gamer might be in this ~35gb mess at IA ...). Anyway, I would like to DYK that, but first, the classification of this game is hard.

Before my edits the lead called it a "an hybrid action and real-time strategy", while the infobox had "Real-time strategy, Economic sim, Space flight simulation game". Categories were for RTS and Category:Action-strategy video games but we have no main article for that concept (Action-strategy game?).

Economic sim was obviously wrong (it's pretty clear this is a downsized 4X strategy game, with economy being just one dimension). The problem is with the RTS and flight-space sim game stuff.

Many reviews / sites confirm the game has a real time element, but I am not sure it is fair to call it a real time strategy. The reviews make it clear the game has an arcade/Star Control-style ship piloting part, in which player can travel between planets and take part in combat, but that's more of a shoot 'em up (per Star Control II) thana space-flight sim genre. Abd having read the four reviews I am still unsure how the game is played outside the time you are piloting the ship (if the shoot 'em up top-down view is "piloting"). At least one review mentions turn-based gameplay as well (Polish - quoted and verified, it's online too if you want to double check), but the others don't mention turn-based play. Currently the lead calls it a "a hybrid turn-based strategy and arcade-action space flight simulation" but and the infobox, "Space flight simulation game, strategy game" but I think shoot 'em up is > to Space flight simulation. Would "a hybrid turn-based strategy and arcade-action shoot 'em up" make sense? (And does the game really have turns??).

For what it's worth: MobyGames keywords it as "Genre: Action, Strategy / tactics. Perspective: Top-down. Pacing: Real-time. Gameplay: Managerial / business simulation, Shooter", MyAbandonware is very similar. ibiblio.org/ capsule review has a soundbite "real-time, simulataneous action/strategy game... a blend of economic strategy with pure reflex outer-space combat.". Sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:17, 10 March 2026 (UTC)

"Strategy video game" or "action strategy video game" seem to be the common terminology for primary and secondary sources, though I haven't dug through them deeply. I think it's easy to overthink a genre. You don't need to be overly specific on the genre tags if the sources aren't. The gameplay description serves the purpose of what the game is actually like to play. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:36, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
I think as a general principle, think of it from a general audience point of view, anything more than two genres will confuse the average player on what to expect and most people don't know game genres outside a gaming audience. Sources that go more into depth on how the game is played can help expand how the game fits a genre or what kind of game it may be without playing it. In the case of your example, I wouldn't use database information if its complicated to pile on-genres. The turn-based stuff can go into gameplay section. If its overtly complicated and hard to pindown, go with a brass-tacks approach, its still probably a strategy game from what you've suggested. You can go into details about what kind of game it is via the gameplay prose. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
@Andrzejbanas @Maplestrip Good points. I am all for simplifing the lead to "action strategy video game", but what do we list in the infobox and categories? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:24, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
If no source calls it a hybrid but say one and the other or something, would "Action, strategy" be applicable? If not, you could just leave it blank. Sometimes games just don't fit into a genre in a simple way. Andrzejbanas (talk) 10:52, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
@BOZ A friendly ping in case you can locate any review I missed (PC Gamer perhaps?). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:01, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
Not more than what you see here: BOZ (talk) 02:31, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
Is your recommendation to list it there as "Action strategy / tactics", and to ignore the items listed under "Pacing" and "Gameplay" and such? ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:03, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
PC Gamer review Timur9008 (talk) 16:27, 11 March 2026 (UTC)
@Timur9008 Thanks, but it's just the summary, not the review proper? But I found the file at , will read shortly. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:49, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Reminder : Official GDC Flickr Photosream

With GDC thus week, there continues to be freely licensed photos taken during sessions from the conference . They arent labeled so you'll have to dig to figure out who's who. And when the GDCA/IGF awards happen tomorrow there has always been a post award "red carpet" photoshoot as well as during both presentations and those are often very good for Dev and tram shots. Masem (t) 19:13, 11 March 2026 (UTC)

Commons gallery: c:Category:Game Developers Conference 2026 TarkusABtalk/contrib 04:59, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Original Mortal Kombat sales

This page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Sega_Genesis_games, mentions Mortal Kombat sold 4.33 million on Genesis, based on the source "Acclaim sold approximately 6.5 million Mortal Kombat cartridges. The Genesis version, which included the original arcade fatality moves, outsold the edited-down Super NES version by nearly three-to-one." As if to say that the SNES version sold 2.17 million, but wouldn't that account for the Game Boy and Game Gear versions which were also cartridge-based?

Electricmastro (talk) 03:19, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Alan Wake

Alan Wake has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 17:49, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Flyers for video games

i have two flyers for the games Blaster (video game) and Sinistar

https://flyers.arcade-museum.com/videogames/show/2413


https://flyers.arcade-museum.com/videogames/show/1388

GyroidGalaxian (talk) 21:48, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
What are you asking for? If you want them on the site, you can upload them (they'll be automatically shrunk) directly here. Make sure you get the licensing and usage rights are all correct. Harryhenry1 (talk) 05:33, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
ok GyroidGalaxian (talk) 12:49, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Talk:Video game clone#Article split

Feel free to participate in the split discussion. Dabmasterars [RU/COM] (talk/contribs) 18:30, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

Regarding application of game genre/topic categories to series/franchise categories

Earlier today, @Rhain removed several categories from Category:Grand Theft Auto, including categories concerning subject matter such as Category:Organized crime video games and Category:Fiction about police brutality, as well as the genre category Category:Open-world video games. I didn't think this made a lot of sense and Rhain gave no reason for it, so I reverted the change, but Rhain removed the categories again with the justification that These cats are for games (and are already applied to the relevant game articles); this category is for the franchise.

I find this justification strange, because although I would not dispute that the categories are generally for individual games, I think it makes sense that if a smaller category of games, like a game series, has a particular aspect (such as crime fiction or open world) as a defining trait, it makes sense to apply that trait to the series category, does it not? This is already standard practice across Wikipedia, for example Category:The Godfather films is made a subcategory of American crime drama films, American historical drama films, American gangster films, Films about the American Mafia, and so on. Similarly, Category:Video games about cyborgs contains the categories the Deus Ex games, Terminator video games, Metal Gear, RoboCop, and on and on. I could name a litany of other examples, but you get the point. If it's a defining trait of the group covered by the category, then it gets categorized as such.

Now, I was under the impression that this sort of application of categories was to be non-diffusing, as of course, categorizing, say, Deus Ex (video game) in Category:Deus Ex and neglecting to apply Cyberpunk video games to that page on the logic that, hey, the Deus Ex category is already in the cyberpunk video games category, would be, to say the least, unintuitive and unproductive. I thought the same should apply with GTA. Grand Theft Auto V gets the open world video games category, but the GTA category overall also gets in the open world video games category, because that just makes sense and aids navigation. Even if Rockstar was to release, say, a GTA spinoff that was an on-rails shooter, the category would still generally have open world games as a defining trait. Sonic the Hedgehog video games still goes into Platformers by series, because they're generally platformers (that's their defining genre), and the existence of off-genre spinoffs like Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood and Sonic Shuffle do not change this fact.

This is just my opinion, this makes sense to me, I think it makes sense, and it appears that most category editors agree with me and follow this convention already. However, it seems that Rhain does disagree, so I'd like to invite the community to weigh in. Should categories for game series be handled this way, or should topic and genre categories only be applied to individual games? I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts so that the consensus is on record and hopefully a precedent for how to handle this can be set.

Also if this is not the correct place to raise this concern (I'm honestly not sure if this is like, an issue for the Wikipedia community generally or just a thing the VG WikiProject should decide for how to handle categories within our scope) then please let me know and I'll move the discussion wherever and/or notify whatever other WikiProjects and/or noticeboards may be pertinent here. silviaASH (inquire within) 10:31, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

I think you've illustrated my point best with Category:Platformers by series: it's categorised by series. Placing both the game article and the series category within the same parent category is redundant per WP:SUBCAT; obviously it would be different if the parent was non-diffusing, but it's not. Rhain (he/him) 10:45, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
I assumed that the question of whether or not a "by series" subcategory was to be created would be down to whether or not there's a large enough number of series categories in the game genre category to be worth diffusing. It would seem there's enough series in Category:Open-world video games for this to make sense, but for other genre categories that have a smaller number of series categories in them (like for example Category:Immersive sims), diffusion by series probably isn't necessary. As another example, I don't think it would make very much sense to create a Category:Marble video games by series which consists solely of Super Monkey Ball, but to remove the latter category from Marble video games purely based on this technicality would seem to me to not make any sense. It is a series of games defined by its inclusion in the marble video game genre, so having it as a subcategory of the marble games category only seems logical, and it helps aid navigation for those browsing that category. silviaASH (inquire within) 13:05, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Anyway, about the point on SUBCAT: I personally think this is a very straightforward case of WP:IAR. The Godfather being included in both Category:American crime drama films and Category:The Godfather films makes sense, despite the latter being a subcategory of the former, because readers navigating the former category might well wish to see a full list of all American crime drama films, but they might also wish to browse applicable subcategories of American film series that happen to have crime drama as a defining theme. I don't think video games should be treated any differently here. The SUBCAT guideline is something that makes sense in most cases, but in this particular circumstance it's logical to make exceptions. silviaASH (inquire within) 13:22, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
If there is local consensus to IAR, it should probably be codified somewhere like the MoS (after further discussion), otherwise this will likely be a recurring issue as it contradicts a guideline (see, e.g., here). Rhain (he/him) 22:15, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
Having considered further I think it would probably be best to establish consensus for a broad standard here that applies to not only video games but also other media like film and television. To that end I may bring this discussion to Wikipedia talk:Categorization later. silviaASH (inquire within) 00:54, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
As an aside, regardless of the direction of this discussion, the series category should not be under "Fiction about police brutality", as GTA isn't really about that as much as featuring it. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 11:09, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

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What is Yoshi's Island doing here? Huh? EnvironmentalDoor (talk) 04:24, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

And attributed to an IP that hasn't edited in 13+ years.... Ben · Salvidrim!  04:33, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
Well, that was the IP that created the page... but no, it was from "Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy renamed to Yoshi's Island", which of course it wasn't, it was redirected, so that's not right. --PresN 11:06, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

As far as torturously thin connections to video games go, Jeremy Robinson bibliography? He apparently wrote for a video game that doesn't have an article and was almost certainly cancelled after more than 10 years in early access. The main article Jeremy Robinson isn't even tagged with our project banner. Axem Titanium (talk) 23:19, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Help with Mario Teaches Typing GA

User:Guyinblack25 has done tremendous amount of work on the Mario Teaches Typing article. Was wondering if anyone can look over it (any tweeks if needed) before Guyinblack25 nominates it for GA. Timur9008 (talk) 17:08, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

I been helping, so no need (I mean someone else can if they like) Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:53, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

Project Moon notability question

Hello, VG forum! I was looking through the site and noticed that the studio Project Moon (responsible for video games Lobotomy Corporation, Library of Ruina and Limbus Company) does not have a Wikipedia article, and was wondering if 1: Is Project Moon notable enough to have its own article? I believe it's recently came into popularity with more people, and could be something people might want to know more about, and 2: Is there already any effort to create a Project Moon article that I can contribute to?

--Gato1260 (talk) 11:01, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

@Gato1260 Hi you may want to check out ko:프로젝트문 and cherry-pick whatever directly contributes to establishing the high standards of inclusion on Wikipedia. MilkyDefer 17:13, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Odds are they are not, the Korean page relies on primary source interview and seems to fail WP:NCORP. It's not even clear if Limbus Company passes WP:GNG and Lobotomy Corporation is kind of on the precipice. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 21:31, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
Thats fair, I'll focus on improving those existing articles instead of making a new one. Thanks! Gato1260 (talk) 11:46, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Characters of Final Fantasy VIII at FAR

I have nominated Characters of Final Fantasy VIII for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria, or help improve the article. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regard to the article's featured status (see review instructions). 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 02:15, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Various Atari 2600 photos

Hello, I am a fairly new editor to Wikipedia. I went home this weekend and have access to a whole bunch of Atari 2600 cartridges (22 cartridges) that might need photos of them taken to they can go on pages. I also have instruction manuals, Activision and Atari sales catalogs, and the Activision Grand Prix "Racing Team" patch that my dad won. With copyright and trademark issues, what photos could be uploaded and what photos should NOT be uploaded? ☘︎☘︎☘︎ALEXHammeke (talk | guestbook | SANDBOX!!!) 19:51, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Photos of cartridge or manuals with their art clearly visible are going to be considered copyrighted and non-free, so they have very limited use, primarily for identification in the infobox. So really the only use is where we are lacking cover art.
The patch would also be non-free but we do discuss the Activision patches in that article so that might be useful there. Masem (t) 20:13, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
You may be able to organize something with archive.org to store the manuals, etc. Probably too copyrighted to be hosted on commons, unfortunately. ScalarFactor (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
Thank you both. There might be one photos that could still be allowed. It is short biographies and photos of Alan Miller, Bob Whitehead, David Crane, Larry Kaplan, and Steve Cartwright from the last page of the Activision Summer 1982 Video Game cartridge catalog. There aren't any illustrations on the page but their headshots. Would that be ok? ☘︎☘︎☘︎ALEXHammeke (talk | guestbook | SANDBOX!!!) 01:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
Per WP:BLPIMAGE, we typically avoid photographs of living people unless they are freely licensed. It appears the 1982 catalogue is available on the Internet Archive, too (and the 1981 catalogue in higher quality). Rhain (he/him) 04:24, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
Ok sounds good! Thank you all for your help! While I wont be able to contribute the photos, lots better to avoid copyright headache! I've noticed a few Nintendo DS games (America's Test Kitchen: Let's Get Cooking,USA Today Crossword Challenge, and John Deere: Harvest in the Heartland) that don't have Wikipedia pages and this is good info to know for when I hopefully build these pages ☘︎☘︎☘︎ALEXHammeke (talk | guestbook | SANDBOX!!!) 06:33, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Noting "first/last/only game in X series on X console" in articles

Is whether a game is the first, last, or only game in a series to be on a specific console important to note in articles, and does this need to be sourced? I'm bringing this here due to a discussion with @DJ Kaito:, as I had reverted some unsourced edits of theirs of this nature (1, 2) - DJ Kaito's position is that edits of this type do not need to be sourced as the next game in the series not being on the console makes this clear, and that this is common practice across articles, while I think that this kind of thing is unnescessary trivia and should only be noted if reliable sources specifically discuss it. Bringing this here for wider discussion. Waxworker (talk) 01:23, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

It's lead bloat in almost every single instance. Unless a source calls it out, we shouldn't include it. -- ferret (talk) 01:41, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
I'd argue that it doesn't need to be sourced, since it should be clear in most cases based on the other game's releases. However, I'm not sure how notable it is in most situations. In the cases you presented, I don't think it's really important that these games are the last ones on the original Xbox.
I understand saying, for example, that FF6 was the last Final Fantasy game released on a Nintendo console, but that's a more broad, important shift. Especially for games that release yearly, it feels a bit much to say they're the first / last / only on a specific console, unless there's some reason that's notable 13akoors (talk) 01:52, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
The reason to source it is not to prove it's true. It's to prove it's noteworthy, especially in the lead as a factoid that readers need to be presented first and foremost in the article. Most of the articles that put this in the lead don't mention it in the prose, which is also a MOS misstep. This is not about WP:V. It's about WP:UNDUE.-- ferret (talk) 12:37, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
If it is a point made by sources (such as the case of Final Fantasy VII leaving Nintendo for PlayStation due to the need for larger media), then that absolutely should be included. But if that is not covered by sources, its not worth inclusion. Masem (t) 02:12, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
More or less agree with ferret and Masem. It's occasionally noteworthy, but not something we should routinely pointing out in mundane scenarios. Being the first Sonic game on a non-Sega platform is a noteworthy thing. Being seventh and last Sonic game on the Switch is not. Sergecross73 msg me 02:27, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Is this game notable enough for an article?

Hello, I’m currently working on an article for the game Rebuild 3: Gangs of Deadsville, and I wanted to ask if the sources I have are sufficient to prove notability. It’s very much a work in progress, but I wanted to make sure it’s notable enough for an article before I continue. I’m working on it in my sandbox:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oddbard/sandbox Oddbard (talk) 11:30, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

The sources seem to check out to me; the non-primary sources are all either reliable or situational per WP:VG/S. Post 2016 Gamezebo is unreliable, but the articles you use from it here are from 2015 so that's probably fine. The commentary in the sources is significant; they're all either reviews or a general overview of the game. I'd say this probably passes WP:NGAME. silviaASH (inquire within) 11:49, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Great to know, thanks! Oddbard (talk) 11:50, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

COI request at Green Man Gaming

A user that SATs they are associated with Good Old Games has a draft they say has been rewritten with reliable sources and reflecting up to date changes at GOG. I can't look right now but will try later but if anyone wants to review that would help. See Masem (t) 17:11, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

The page in question appears to be Green Man Gaming, not Good Old Games. --Mika1h (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Oops my bad, typing too fast. Masem (t) 18:46, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Warrior II#Requested move 23 March 2026

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Warrior II#Requested move 23 March 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ScalarFactor (talk) 21:37, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

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I feel like Category:Video games with level editors is already covered by Category:Video games with user-generated gameplay content. Perhaps it could be a subcat? Whipmywillows (talk) 22:18, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
There is The Hungry Lamb: Traveling in the Late Ming Dynasty which was on my temporary watchlist for a while. Someone apparently picked up the draft and wrote a barebone structure and published it. MilkyDefer 15:53, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
Yep, that got tagged yesterday, so it will show up in the list next week (it's Monday-Sunday UTC). --PresN 16:20, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
Is it supposed to pick up moving a draft to userspace like what happened with User:Gommeh/Eula (Genshin Impact)? Or is this just an odd error? EnvironmentalDoor (talk) 18:41, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
No, that's an odd bug. I'll look into it, thanks! --PresN 18:51, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

What to do regarding an early access game that got cancelled?

In brief, it was announced today that Fortnite Ballistic is being shut down in April. Technically, that game never left early access, and per MOS:VGRELEASE and MOS:VGLEAD, it's been consistently marked as an "upcoming video game". But now that it won't exist shortly, how should the game be treated, and what should the wording be? "Was a video game"? "Was a [planned/scrapped] video game"? Better yet, how should it be treated from now until the shutdown while still abiding to the guideline? It's definitely not an "upcoming" game anymore, so... λ NegativeMP1 19:51, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

Similar for Storybook Brawl, which I described "was an auto battler video game", as it can no longer be played. MOS:VGTENSE says Use the present tense when describing a subject that continues to exist. For example, a 1984 video game and console both continue to exist as long as copies of both are in circulation, but both a canceled video game and a discontinued online game exist only in the past tense. If you want to be precise, I think "is an video game in early access" until it is discontinued and then "was a video game" after is MOS-compliant. ~ A412 talk! 20:04, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
It was undoubtedly a video game in the past, even an early access game is still a game. But yes, once it goes offline, past tense is more fitting. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 08:04, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Tangential question: Have we got enough of these articles for a category? It's a distinctive characteristic and perhaps we should distinguish cancelled games that were never released in any form, from cancelled games that were playable in early access. - X201 (talk) 08:24, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

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