Draft talk:Waveframe
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WaveFrame audio workstation history
Notability - Top 3 references
[The draft's author posted the following on my talk page and I am copying it here for greater visibility and convenience. Cabrils]
Hi Carbils-
I've added the three best to the talk page. My choices are the oscar awards (generally considered important and independant), a 4-part series describing the technology and the company in Music Technology magazine, and a Mix magazine article on the CBS/sony post-production facility, based on WaveFrame. This is also very detailed.
- "The 76th Scientific & Technical Awards 2003 | 2004". oscars.org. 2004.
- Meyer, Chris (1988-09-01). "The AudioFrame Explained part I" (PDF). Music Technology. 3 (2): 22–26 – via World Radio History. (4 parts)
- Blair, Ivan (1992-07-01). "Digital Post-Production at the former Columbia Westside" (PDF). Mix Magazine. 16 (7): 48–54 – via World Radio History.
The Oscars data is also backed up by the 2 other references to the 2000 oscars and to 4 out of 5 films edited on WaveFrame. The Meyer article is backed up by the Anderton article in a different journal The Sony/Columbia article is backed up by another facility, the Warner film post. Competative film lot, different author. user:carbils WhaleFarm (talk) 19:15, 8 January 2026 (UTC) The 4th part of the meyer article is not available online, I have purchased a copy on ebay, and will try to get it onto the archive site.
I've added several references, and corrected a lot of spelling errors.
I think I've properly note the COI.
any advice on editing, finding spelling would be helpful, I can't find any tools in the editor. WhaleFarm (talk) 17:59, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @WhaleFarm, thanks for the ping and this further information.
- What is the nature of you conflict of interest? Thanks. Cabrils (talk) 06:39, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
I've tried to make the tone more neutral, and added more references.
I've also tried to expalin and document the other path that the equipment took to getting another, earlier Oscar.
WhaleFarm (talk) 22:48, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @WhaleFarm,
- Thanks for this further information, including your declaration of COI.
- As I wrote in my original comment on the draft, "In instances of a conflict of interest, the review of the page needs to be handled with care, mindful of the higher bar set by pages produced in circumstances of such a conflict. Such pages typically may read too much like a promotional CV or advertorial (see WP:PROMO), which Wikipedia is not; and/or contain prose that is not of a standard appropriate for an encyclopaedia (also see WP:PEACOCK and WP:NPV)."
- In this case I also feel there is unjustified WP:EXCESSDETAIL, especially so given the somewhat obscure sources. I think the draft will be more likely to be accepted if it could be trimmed down to the most notable aspects of the subject (rather the current full history of it). I would encourage you to do so and then leave a note for me here and I would be happy to reassess. Cabrils (talk) 02:58, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
update to cut level of detail
I've cut out much of the internal detail. The sources I used are generally pretty mainstream, Mix Magazine has been published since 1977, however good, searchable indexes only go back to 1999. I'd like to find references in Keyboard magazine, but I can't find a good repository. WhaleFarm (talk) 22:29, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- @WhaleFarm, the draft still feels to me to include far too much detail-- Wikipedia is not the repository of a detailed history of Waveframe--create a website to do that. It may be that the draft can establish the relevant notability requirements, but you must please peruse the links I already sent you including WP:EXCESSDETAIL. This is even more pertinent in circumstances of COI. For the absence of doubt, I am imagining a length of around 3 to 4 sections/paragraphs. Trust this helps. Cabrils (talk) 01:45, 13 January 2026 (UTC)