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Articles proposed for deletion

Would it be easy to automatically ping recent contributors to an article if it is proposed for deletion? It could be triggered by the addition of an AfD tag to the page. Zerotalk 13:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

@Zero0000: An article being proposed for deletion is not AfD. Compare WP:PROD with WP:AFD. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Ok, but would be be easy to automatically ping recent contributors to an article if it is proposed for deletion or listed at AfD? Zerotalk 23:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Mark notification as read when link is clicked

I get a new new notification > I click the link > Echo still informs me about that item.

If this is wanted, could it be made optional? --Subfader (talk) 16:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Broken link to user page still notified me

This edit notified me. I didn't think that it could have done, because the link to my user page is broken - it parses as User:User:Redrose64. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:01, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

As it seems Hafspajen fixed it promptly. Maybe Echo notified you right after he fixed his mistake? -- Chamith (talk) 18:19, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
@ChamithN: Amendments to postings do not re-notify, the need to get it exactly right at the first attempt is long-standing known behaviour. Besides, the link that appears in my notifications is this one. To make this post, I tidied it up with the {{diff}} template; but it resolves to exactly the same edit. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Missing notification

An editor reported here that this edit did not produce the expected notification. Why would that be? The edit appears to be formatted correctly and signed. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:05, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Although careful examination of the diff shows that the net change is that you removed one colon and added two lines, the first added line shows in the diff as modification to an existing line, so the notifications software probably didn't consider either to be new. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:25, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
I've just found one here that I never got. If the notifications system is that picky, yet we've come to rely on it, what to do? Victoria (tk) 22:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Feature request

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T112142

I recently ran across an page which needed simultaneous editing and WP:OVERSIGHT. I emailed the Oversight team but if they do the edit as requested, it will leave the editor puzzled. The editor doesn't have email so there is no private way for the oversight team to communicate with the editor.

Consider adding a type of notification where suitably-privileged editors (probably OVERSIGHT-editors on :en, but possibly Stewards or Administrators on smaller Wikis, and editors with arbitrary privileges on experimental, private, and non-WMF wikis) could send a private message using the notification system. In the use case above (oversighters sending messages to editors on :en ) you would want all messages to be logged to a non-public or only-partially-public log (e.g. public log would have the name of the oversighter and a timestamp of the private message, along with maybe a public rationale). For other Wikis with other use cases, logging may not be necessary or even desirable. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Filed as phab:T112142. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:23, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

New appearance

I don't like the new split appearance of the notification - is there a way I can restore the old, unified version? Nikkimaria (talk) 19:21, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

More information can be found at mw:Talk:Echo (Notifications) and phab:T108190. My first reaction was dislike, probably purely because it was a change; I'm currently undecided. I'm unsure if the change can be toggled off (i.e. in the preferences), I'm under the impression at the moment after a quick look into it, that it cannot be.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 20:35, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
The real problem with this change is how experienced editors can attract the attention of problematic new editors or IPs. What does an IP see when a new message is put on their talk? With the orange bar, we could act on the assumption that an editor knew there was a message. With the red alert, that assumption was reasonably valid. The blue box means the assumption is bogus—a new editor would have to be psychic to know someone was leaving them messages—stuff which might lead to them being blocked if they ignore. The solution is for the new system to be a user preference that is off by default so new users see something prominent. If the devs really love the new system, they might consider defaulting the new preference to on for people with an edit count of 1000 or more. Johnuniq (talk) 23:49, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
AFAIK IPs still get the OBOD. They certainly did when I last tested it, four weeks ago. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Bring back the 'ORANGE' bar

Please, bring back the orange bar 'or' atleast change back to the 'facebook' style notifications. This latest change is crappy. GoodDay (talk) 04:08, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

@GoodDay: Do you mean the old m:OBOD (orange bar of doom) that was replaced a few years ago, or, the orange indicator that we've had since then? The orange indicator is still there when we get messages on our usertalkpage, and should look almost identical to how it has for the last few years. (I just tested/confirmed in vector and monobook, and with javascript turned off). It should look like File:Echo Notifications new message indicator.png. If it doesn't... Do you have the checkbox for "Show talk page message indicator in my toolbar" ticked, at the bottom of Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo? If yes, then what browser/OS are you using?
Re: the "split" change in general - more notification-types have been requested (see partial listing), and cross-wiki notifications are starting to be developed. This will increase the desire for a clearer indication than "just a red number" of what types of notification await us. Splitting the flyout is the first possible solution that they're trying. Please (please!) give detailed suggestions for possible solutions that will work for all editors, in all our myriad roles, in the main thread at mediawiki.org. Thanks, and HTH. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:32, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I missed the 'old bar', indeed. But, I did become used to the Facebookish red-squares. But now those have been altered aswell. The community should be given a pre-view of these changes & allowed to accept or reject them, before they're implimented. GoodDay (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
The old bar (well, the old old bar) can still be a part of your life, thanks to Writ Keeper. What with that and a script to get rid of the new-look (well, not so new anymore) Vector, my Wikipedia looks like 2010 never went away... Yunshui 雲水 19:47, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Which of these work for IPs?

The lead says "Notifications ... provides notifications to users of a number of events related to their account." Do I take that to mean none of these features work for unregistered contributors, who lack accounts? This could be made clearer, as I attempted to ping IPs for months before learning it doesn't work. Can IPs ping registered users? Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 10:37, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Adrian J. Hunter, Perhaps you could log out, post a ping on your talkpage, log back in, check to see if you got a message notification (toolbar at the top of the page, not talk page message) from your IP then you'll have an answer I would love to know about. I would love to do so myself and provide you with an answer but I am working off an unreliable phone browser. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 11:11, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
@Adrian J. Hunter: Yes, this edit notified me. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Ping abuse -- I would like a solution for this

I am lately being ping-abused by a couple editors, even after letting them know they don't need to ping me as I watch the discussion pages in question. I don't want to go through reporting them, because I don't want to make that much of a deal about it. But I would love to be able to block pings/mentions from specific people. I realize I can block all pings/mentions, and I'm doing that right now, but that is making me miss pings from those who aren't abusing it.

Also, I have a separate question. What is the purpose of the page link notifications? I have it turned on, and these notifications are interesting, but I wonder what use I could make of that information. Is this just for stroking my ego?  :) Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:53, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Coloring suggestion for notifications

Another thing. If I'm getting anything other than a revert, I don't want to see 'red'. Red means ERROR. I'd rather see green (or something else) for the non-error notifications. If I happen to have a combination of unread revert and non-revert notifications, you could do a split red/green coloring. Just a suggestion. I hate seeing red when I haven't done something wrong. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 18:59, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Update of Page is needed

Hi, a couple of things should probably be updated since the latest update to the Notifications system:

  • Difference between "Messages" and "Alerts" should be made clear
  • Picture should be updated, or become part of a "gallery" of the various systems that have been used
  • Perhaps an update should also occur on the FAQ page in tandem?

Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 05:08, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Hey, can I just check: Echo was first, then OBOD, and now our dual-system? Or was it OBOD, Echo, Dual-System? I've started to edit/update a sandbox page which is a copy of the WP:Notifications page. The "updated" sandbox page is User:Drcrazy102/sandbox/Update_to_WP:Notifications and I would love if a couple of interested editors could just keep an eye on it to make sure I don't make a mess of it, or introduce 'untruths'. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 23:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Why didn't it work?

Hello Quiddity or whomever may answer my question here. I am wondering this: why didn't I receive a notification from the user who made that edit. Thank you. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 21:24, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Because no signature was added. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. But I was thinking a new ~~~~ was added perhaps as the old signature was deleted. Does that not work? I see the timestamp changes from 13:59 to 14:11 in the diff. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 22:26, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not a new signature, but an existing one that was altered. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Would a double signature have worked? And (possibly Quiddity) is this bug being tracked in Phabricator? Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 14:30, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
It's very simple. Add a new signature in the same edit that you add the user link. Changing a signature is not adding one. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:39, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I see that point. That's why I asked if adding a double signature would work. I'll test it. Redrose64, did this notify you? Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:25, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 13:25, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
No. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:48, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for asking User:Biosthmors. (Did you get this one?) --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 08:02, 18 October 2015 (UTC) Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 08:05, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for trying User:Anthonyhcole, but no, it didn't work. :-/ Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 23:09, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

@Anthonyhcole: See T68078 When mentioning other users, indicate mention notifications in the "your edit was saved" message (created Jun 3 2014, Open, Public, Assigned To: None) This is currently very high up in the "Technical Wishlist of the german WP community". There is hope that someone at either WMDE or WMF will start to care about this :-) --Atlasowa (talk) 17:02, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Atlasowa. The person in charge of this problem just doesn't seem to get it. He put it at "low" priority. what a joke. And he thinks it's a privacy issue to tell other users someone has disallowed all notifications. That WMF technical, they're a bunch of funny guys! --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 23:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Anthonyhcole, i think privacy issues are very serious issues. I'm sure as a medical editor you'll agree. The problem with the mention/ping feature is that you don't know if you actually sent a ping, which is a major fail for a communication feature! And the person that should have received your ping doesn't know either. There was a really unbelievably bad bug in 2013/2014 with pings/mentions: If you were a female editor, you couldn't send pings. Only "standard" male editors could send mentions/pings, both to male and female editors. And nobody even knew! (talk about gender gap! T55132) Because you are left in the dark about whether you sent the ping or not. Because there is no "sent confirmation". That should be easy to fix, and it should have been fixed a long time ago. Let's not go down the feature creep rabbit hole, with "read confirmations" etc. with all the privacy implications and increased complexity that leads to a next round of bugs. --Atlasowa (talk) 08:55, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Wow. I hadn't heard of the gender gap bug before. That's amazing. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 09:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Reading over that bug, it wasn't in any way "only 'standard' male editors". It was that only the "canonical" version of the namespace name would be recognized when looking at the links, even "User_talk" rather than "User talk" would be affected. In the case specifically reported in the bug, that canonical version actually corresponded to the "unspecified" gender option, not the "male" option. Anomie⚔ 13:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
See de:Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia/Archiv/2013/Woche_49#Echo_und_die_Benutzerin. Female users /"Benutzerin" were advised to change their signature to the male user/"Benutzer" because otherwise the technology would ignore their pings/mentions. Regarding "standard"/"canonical": to-may-toes / to-mah-toes, call it as you like.
If you look higher up this page, someone wrote that " I attempted to ping IPs for months before learning it doesn't work." (#Which of these work for IPs?) And he is very far from the only one, I see those IP mention attempts since 2 years. Bloody bad UI design. --Atlasowa (talk) 14:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I may be repeating the above, but I came here to ask why the notifications system can't be changed so that we can add notifications to existing posts without having to re-sign. This really is a major nuisance, and I see people wrestling with it all the time.

    If we forget to ping, we have to post again rather than pop the name in. If we make a typo, we have to post again rather than fix the typo. When notifications fail, we're not told. It means the system can't be trusted to deliver. Quiddity, can you say who we should approach with this request? Sarah (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

For confirmation: As Atlasowa says, privacy of user-preferences is important. It would also be more complicated (and thus more things to test, and more things to fix edge-cases for) to automatically check this preference for all 'mentioned' editors in every edit that triggers the mention system. However, as Petr says at phab:T68078, we could mostly cover this by a popup that reads "4 editors were mentioned", (rather than implying that they have actually been notified). Hopefully that will help with the majority of problems discussed in this section.
For reliability: Echo is just analyzing the diff, to determine mentions. It has to avoid false-positives, like sections or posts being archived/unarchived/refactored/shuffled/reverted/etc. Hence, it has a strict set of requirements for how it works (mw:Manual:Echo#Mentions). AFAIK the possible solutions — such as adding more automated warnings, if the diff I'm about save contains a username, but it is not going to trigger a mention-notification — would be complicated to implement (time-consuming and involving large quantities of code, plus a tiny slow-down to page-saves), and would still be somewhat fragile. (Long-term: Using a structured discussion system (with separated posts, and distinct action types) would/will make it more reliable. But never exactly 100%, as detailed above and below...)
(sidenote/ramble) It comes down to human nature/diversity. Everyone has a different inclination or preference for communication vectors. Some people use throwaway accounts for email registration, or they just don't regularly check the email-account they chose to use (hence the recent phab:T56130), or they have over-aggressive email spamfilters. There will also always be people who want to opt-out of any new communication system, or who will leave it turned on but hide it with CSS, or will just ignore it. The only way to almost-guarantee that an active editor sees a message is to leave it on their usertalkpage at their homewiki. So it goes. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:49, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
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A popup "4 editors were mentioned" is fine by me. Maybe add the notification icon (only 1 bubble though!). This would be a vast improvement to the current situation. --Atlasowa (talk) 13:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Quiddity, how hard would it be to have a notification activated by clicking on the username we want to alert? Having to retype the name or copy/paste is time-consuming and error-prone. Sarah (talk) 19:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
as the originator of Phab:T68078, i'd like to relate to the "privacy" concern mentioned earlier in this discussion: IMO, this is a red-herring. if i disable "Enable email from other users" (or leave my email address empty) in "Preferences", other users will know it: there will be no "Email this user" in the tools menu in my user page. will i seriously be able to claim then that "my privacy was breached", because someone can find something i chose in "preferences"? bullocks. choosing not to receive emails is perfectly fine. insisting that nobody can know i chose not to receive emails is worse than silly (someone can put a lot of effort composing an elaborate message, without realizing it can't be sent). same thing with notifications: you can choose not to receive notification, but claiming that exposing your choice to others breaches your privacy, is just ridiculous. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 18:29, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Notification icon colours

The new pale icons are not very contrasty

Is there a way to customise which colour we would like our notifications to be? I see above User:Stevietheman doesn't want red unless he's been reverted. The icons have now been changed to pale pink and pale blue, which are not conspicuous enough for me (and I don't need to use high-contrast themes) - have these been approved by the accessibility folks as I'd be surprised if they met the required contrast ratios?

The simplest (from a user experience point of view) way to resolve these issues is to allow users to choose which colours they want to see for notifications and messages. Thryduulf (talk) 02:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

And in Monobook they are too white. Could somebody post here CSS rules to get old style back (at least for Monobook)? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:41, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
The new CSS rules for the pale colours are 
#pt-notifications-alert .mw-echo-notifications-badge.mw-echo-unseen-notifications { 
  background-color: #DEA4A2;
}
#pt-notifications-message .mw-echo-notifications-badge.mw-echo-unseen-notifications { 
  background-color: #B7CFFB;
}
where #DEA4A2 is   and #B7CFFB is  . Retaining hue and lightness, but using 100% saturation gives #FF8581   and #B3CEFF  . Retaining hue and saturation, but using 50% lightness gives #BC4743   and #0D5EF2  . --Redrose64 (talk) 10:25, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Do we just need to add these lines to our personal monobook.css? Thryduulf (talk) 14:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, you have to include it in to your Special:Mypage/common.css. But those classes are for Vector, not Monobook, right Redrose? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 20:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Terminology note: #pt-notifications-message .mw-echo-notifications-badge.mw-echo-unseen-notifications is a selector, pt-notifications-message is an id, mw-echo-notifications-badge and mw-echo-unseen-notifications are classes. background-color: #DEA4A2; is a declaration, background-color is a property, #DEA4A2 is a value. A rule comprises selector(s) and declaration(s), the latter being enclosed in single braces.
The CSS rules that I gave are for the default colours in MonoBook only. Vector has the same rules but with different default values for the background-color property - for example the red one is #D11813  . Therefore, you should be able to paste both of those rules into Special:MyPage/common.css, amend the colours, and save. A utility you might find useful is Colorizer: once it starts, find the RGB(A) section, in that the "Hex" row, and on the right-hand side of that is the value #a96836. Overtype that with e.g. #DEA4A2 - notice how other values on the page change and the sliders move to new positions. Use your mouse to drag the sliders around - notice how the hex value and also the sample extreme left both change as you do this. When you find one you like, copy the hex value into your common.css in place of the existing hex value. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
My bad :) Picked too close colours, so that I didn't see some real change. Everything is fine now, thanks. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 22:29, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Userspace update of WP:NOTIFS completed

Hi all, just wanted to see if I had overlooked anything important in the updated content at User:Drcrazy102/sandbox/Update to WP:Notifications, if I had made any mistakes, or if it is ready to be copied over and merged into the article space? Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 08:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Drcrazy102 I've made a few small tweaks, and updated the old flyout/popup screenshot. I've also removed the slightly confusing mentions of the OBOD - the m:OBOD is generally understood to refer to the full-page-width massive orange bar. That looks great, and I think it's ready to be merged into the current page. Thanks again! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 01:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough, probably wasn't quite MOS-acceptable either, but thanks for the tweaks Quiddity (WMF). I'll check the changes now, wait another day and then copy it over. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 09:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Article for deletion notification

Hi, got this notification on my article Commander One. I added a few additional resources. Could you please check and let me know if I need to adjust it in some other way. I really want to improve the article in the way it allows it to be published here.

Thanks!DashaG11 (talk) 09:52, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Well if you think the article should be kept, then remove the "Proposed deletion/dated" template from the top. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Can I do that? DashaG11 (talk) 14:15, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

@DashaG11: Yes, with this form of deletion request, any editor can object by removing the notice. See Wikipedia:Proposed deletion. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:48, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

"Page link" notifications / alerts

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T121780

Hello everyone! Happy new year! Actually I'm here to fix my problem with notifications. Actually, I'm not receiving any "Page link" notifications, alerts, or anything for last two weeks. My settings are all good, I don't know what the problem is. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 10:44, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!: It is currently broken and slated to be fixed January 14. See WP:VPT#Article link notifications. — JJMC89 (T·C) 11:37, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Very well then. Thanks for the help. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 11:52, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Double notification received

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T128504

This revert notified me twice: it increased the counter from 0 to 2, put two entries in the drop-down, and two in Special:Notifications. Both of the latter two pairs were timed "26 minutes ago". --Redrose64 (talk) 20:56, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Filed as phab:T128504, thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Notification error

Hi everyone,

I dropped by to mention a notification error. Earlier this morning I checked Wikipedia on my mobile phone. It said I have message on my talk page, roughly four hours ago - it's 8:28 right now where I am. There is no new message there. When I checked the notifications on my computer, I didn't come up in the dropdown messages tab, but when I go to the notifications page specifically it again says I have a new message. If you see my talk page history, the last message is by Mr. Magoo and McBarker (talk · contribs), February 23, 2016 at 21:09. The message in question was supposedly by Kiyoshiendo (talk · contribs), but there's nothing in their edits that would explain the error. Kiyoshiendo's last message at my talk page was from November 2, 2015. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 07:28, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

I unwatched your talk page. Did Wikipedia do something strange because of that? --Kiyoshiendo (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Did you do so around that time? Perhaps that could explain the error. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 08:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
@Soetermans: Hi. It sounds like there are probably 2 different bugs, here. Please confirm if I understand correctly (or clarify).
1. You received a notification about Kiyoshiendo editing your talkpage today, but he has not done so today. However he did unwatch your page [possibly today at that time, awaiting confirmation above].
2. You can see a notification in your special:notifications log, that does not also appear in the messages dropdown. e.g. http://i.imgur.com/u1bvMeY.png
The first one might be related to ongoing work around making null edits not trigger notifications (phab:T123843), but I haven't heard of the second bug before. I'll file a task once you confirm that I've understood correctly. Thanks, both! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:06, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes I did unwatch Soetermans' talk page at that time --Kiyoshiendo (talk) 22:25, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that's right. Happy to help out. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:38, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
I've filed this as phab:T128148. Thanks again for the bug-report. :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 01:17, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
@Soetermans: Hi. One of the developers has looked at the database, and has a hypothesis regarding the false-notification (it's probably the null-edit problem). However, we're still trying to understand the second bug.
Please could you read this description of what he thinks happened, and either confirm the scenario, or if that scenario doesn't seem accurate then take a screenshot showing both the special:notifications page and the flyout (like mine above) where the flyout is scrolled to show the approximate time that should contain the notification but does not? If you've already received more than 24 new notifications subsequently, then that won't be possible, and no worries. (Note: You could either upload it onwiki, or in phabricator, or just email it to me (nwilson@wikimedia.org) - I can edit the screenshot to redact non-public information, if desired.). They write:

From a closer reading of User:Soetermans's report, I think the following happened:

  • "It said I have message on my talk page": I think they saw the yellow-bar and clicked on it.
  • Clicking the yellow-bar navigates to their user talk page. They visually inspect this page and see no message they haven't already seen before. The yellow-bar has gone away, and they have no unread notifications because visiting one's user talk page marks one's edit-user-talk notifications as read.
  • For some reason, they check their notifications using the special:notifications page instead of the flyout.
  • They see the notification there and are confused.

So my theory is that they never looked at the flyout.

Much thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi @Quiddity (WMF):,
I saw the notification on my phone, so it wasn't the yellow bar or the flyout, but the bell with a red 1. It said it was a message by Kiyoshiendo. Going to my talk page, that's when I noticed there wasn't a new message and looking at my talk page's history I could see the notification was an error. I'll email you a screenshot of my phone right away. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 19:06, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Echo - selected open bugs and feature requests

Bugzilla list
quick links: Open Bugs and requests (all bugs)


Selected bugs, mentioned in current talkpages and current archive (4).
  1. bugzilla:52319 (ctrl/middle-click in flyout)
  2. bugzilla:48882 and bugzilla:50082 (Notifications received due to mentions in accidentally transcluded pages)
  3. bugzilla:53176 (Not getting notified for reverts if Preview or Show Changes is used)
  4. bugzilla:50829 (Echo notifications show [No page] instead of pagename if the page was deleted)
  5. #Problems (3) above. ("My notification count only goes down to 1, even after I look at all the revert notifications. This may only occur when I have more than one page of notifications." ... "'Only when' is probably correct. When there are less than 8 hits (red number), it resets to 0.")
  6. (Mobile editors are seeing, but can't use, the Thank links.) See archived thread.
  7. bugzilla:52510 (Echo and FlaggedRevs) - rejected Revisions part is patched. The approved Revisions code is abandoned in gerrit as it doesn't account for some important cases. Use the FlaggedRevs icon:  ?
  8. bugzilla:54391 (Diff link in bundled message should show all diffs instead of just the last one)
  9. bugzilla:56739 (multiple signatures in a single save break Mention Notifications)
  10. bugzilla:56475 (The "You have new messages" link should go to a diff and/or subsection) Currently just a plain link to Usertalk. It Should link to either:
    • the first of unread messages
    • "changes since last viewed" (per old OBOD)
  11. bugzilla:56974 users without javascript are not getting a yellow banner, unless they turn on the "Display a floating alert when I have new talk page messages" gadget, which itself appears to be aesthetically broken (close icon overlapping with text. screenshot)
    Link to original discussion. That gadget doesn't work for me with JS disabled. Special:Gadgets says it uses JavaScript. – PartTimeGnome (talk | contribs) 00:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
  12. bugzilla:57152 (talkpage messages without a 4tilde signature, do not generate correct section links or summary) screenshot of the problem
Selected Feature requests
  1. bugzilla:52690 (Notification when user becomes auto-confirmed)
  2. bugzilla:49446 (Linking a username in an Edit-Summary should trigger a notification)
  3. bugzilla:43840 (Echo should support user subscriptions to feeds (for newsletters and publications such as The Wikipedia Signpost))
  4. bugzilla:53564 (IP addresses should link to Special:Contributions instead of userpage)
  5. bugzilla:44787 (Allow excluding pages from the Page Linked notifications)
  6. bugzilla:46692 (Dismissing/removing notifications - a way to remove items from the list)
  7. (A new Notification that someone has emailed you using Special:EmailUser) (A lot of people don't register with their primary email account, or don't check it frequently. Some have userpage notes warning against using email if the matter is urgent. It's more common than you might guess! Even specifically mentioned at mw:Flow Portal/Use cases#User talk namespace)
  8. (Use Different Icons for Talkpage messages and Mentions. (See list of current icons at mw:Echo/Feature requirements#Notification Categories). To give a better visual clue on the flyout (and archive) on what just happened. - Use an @ sign icon for Mentions?)
  9. (disable Page Linked notifications for Reverts. Eg. When someone rollsback a page-blanking vandal.)
  10. At Special:Notifications, change the max-width (currently 600px) to something larger. 60em is suggested.
  11. A better solution for accidental reverts, that get self-reverted within moments. (/Archive_5#Revert_notification and #Revert reverts below.)
  12. bugzilla:56476 Granular icons, see Wikipedia_talk:Notifications/Archive_5#Granularity.


Other items

Inconsistencies between the links given in the Flyout and Special:Notifications and Email
  • Generally, many users are asking for consistency between what is linked in Flyout/Special/Email, and they prefer the additional links given in Special.
  • Additionally, the flyout is confusing, because the entire background is clickable, but there is no mousepointer-change or status-bar-hint for the destination. TMg explained it well here.
  • Related to bugzilla:47665 ( Echo notifications should have a larger clickable surface area) which has pertinent comments.
  • Update the Flyout/Special/Email documentation at mw:Echo/Feature requirements.
  • Also, there were a few complaints about the small size of the "View changes/View edit" and "[xx] [time] ago" text. Consider increasing it.


MediaWiki talk:Echo-blacklist
possibly someone should enact these 2 requests? or comment?
and more people should watchlist it.


What happens if someone turns off their Mention Notifications?


AfC bug


I'll nag Fabrice and the devs during the next few weeks, to look at this, and make bug tickets for things that don't already have one, and address the ones that do, and strike the ones that are fixed, and etc.

It's not complete, but I think it covers most of the important or multiple-requested items. Add or tweak items as needed, but try to keep it concise. I'm off into the last of sun now! and lunch... –Quiddity (talk) 23:11, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

So does this mean, that, in Bugzilla's Wikipedia article, should we include the Wikimedia Foundation or MediaWiki in the examples of popular organizations who use Bugzilla? Clearly it's used here on Wikipedia as you can see. Philmonte101 (talk) 04:32, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
@Philmonte101: No, because we don't. MediaWiki and all WikiMedia projects have used phab: for something like thirteen months now; the last Bugzilla tickets were filed on 21 November 2014. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:49, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Notifications given

There's a page, Special:Notifications, for notifications I receive; is there one that lists notifications I've given? Peter James (talk) 22:54, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

No, but it would be very useful, if only to demonstrate to people that the notification that they thought that they had sent had actually failed. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:00, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
@Peter James and Redrose64: Note: There's ongoing investigation into ways to improve this at phab:T135717 and subtasks - possibly via an addition to the "edit saved" bubble message, which could include the usernames who were successfully mentioned in a save - the main discussion so far has been in phab:T135719, thoughts welcome. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:50, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Retriggered notification for mention

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T137755

This edit notified me as a mention, this is correct behaviour. This edit also notified me, but should not have done, since no new link to my user page was added, and no new signature was added either. The paragraph containing the link to my user page was altered in other ways, replacing "it" with "[[:sr:Медијавики:Common.css|it]] and other related pages". --Redrose64 (talk) 18:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, will investigate. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Notifications now backwards

I previously got an "alert" (bell symbol) when someone thanked/reverted/mentioned me, and a "notice" (comment symbol, along with the talk-page flag) when someone posted to my talk page. For the past couple of days, those have been reversed - alert+talk-page flag for talk page messages, and notice for thank/revert/mention. (a) Is this a bug, or was this change made deliberately? (b) If the latter, why? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:41, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

@Nikkimaria: see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Notification issue. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:14, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Update needed

Hello all. With the recent changes to the notification system the info on the project page is out of date and, in some cases, inaccurate. If any of you who know all the ins and outs of the changes could update the page when you have a chance it would be much appreciated. MarnetteD|Talk 16:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, MarnetteD. Currently, Trizek is working on some updates to the primary documentation at mw:Help:Notifications. One of us will reply here, once that is ready to be replicated across to this page. Probably a few more days.
Alternatively, it's worth considering changing most (but not all) of the project page here, into a soft-redirect to the primary documentation location. Plus retaining underneath that, the Enwiki-specific information, such as "Course talk:" and "Blacklist and whitelist" details. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:00, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Overwhelmed by notifications that do not go away

I have been away, inactive, for a while. A bit of Wiki-burnout. Today I see I have 99+ new notifications. So I looked at them. I still see 99+ and I see no way of reducing that number to zero. On the basis that I am probably not an imbecile, and might even be considered to be relatively experienced, I wonder if some kind soul would let me know what is going on, and how not to see the 99+ notifications that I do not wish to see, many of which are historical, ie I have seen them already!

It's a joy to feel suddenly popular, but this is popularity I do not require.

Since I am not frequenting WP much at present, please drop me a note physically on my talk page so it emails me to let me know you have been very kind and replied. I think letting it ping me would be useless under these 99+ circumstances Fiddle Faddle 15:22, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: I've replied here. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
And I am much relieved and grateful for the solution. My talk page archives automatically, so, if you need the solution yourself, do wander through the archives. Fiddle Faddle 09:18, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
  1. The above is archived at User_talk:Timtrent/Archive_31#Notifications, or see the shorter version at How to: Clear all notifications at a single wiki.
  2. Next week (Thursday) there will be a new "cog icon" on Special:Notifications, which will include a link to "mark all notifications [on this wiki] as read".
HTH. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:42, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Inconsistency - one fail, one success, little difference

This edit failed to notify me, but this edit did notify me, although there is no difference in the way that the user link and signatures are constructed. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:08, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

I've expanded the scope of phab:T137755 to cover all recent anomalies with mention notifications. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:37, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Images

Honest question: what is the new notification icon supposed to be? It looks like the front of a subway. TimothyJosephWood 21:04, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

@Timothyjosephwood: A file tray. — JJMC89 (T·C) 21:32, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Alert vs. notice separation

Is there a reason why the alerts and notices/messages indicators are separated? I suppose one could figure that the alerts are more pressing but I'm a fairly active user and the purpose of separating the two indicators still isn't readily apparent to me. A single tray of notifications (customizable via preferences) would be easier to parse methinks I am no longer watching this page—ping if you'd like a response czar 23:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

@Czar: The sorting was reorganized a while ago using the criteria of "urgency" - bucketed into Alerts and Notices - because editors want a clearer insight into whether they need to distract themselves from their current task. I.e. Notification types that we are more likely to want to see immediately, are in the Alerts section now. The background and research is at phab:T123018 and m:Research:Notifications user survey, plus links therein. The clearest overview is mw:Help:Notifications/Notifications types.
The new tray icon isn't perfect for making this intuitive, but no better alternatives could be found (phab:T135114).
Customizing the sorting per-user isn't easy at a code or database level, and would likely make the system slower, and would require more ongoing resources (both hardware and human-time). (You might be interested in more general thoughts about preferences, in an essay I wrote a while back, mw:Just make it a user preference. :)
HTH. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Hm. The buckets appear to precede both the linked user survey and phab ticket. I'm not suggesting that things change on my accord, but I wanted to register—as someone who uses and appreciates notifications—that it would be much easier to manage as a single drop-down. As for my peanut gallery comments on user preferences, we can already set which notifs to receive from Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo, so all I meant was that instead of guessing what users find actionable/non-actionable, remind users to set their preferences if they don't like the defaults. But again as an active user, even I struggle to wrangle notifs without understanding why some persist and others don't without looking at the manual (such as now). Hard to get a sense that it's based on priority, or to think that editors actually prioritize red but not blue alerts. I would think that most people either clear their notifs right away or don't, and that wouldn't require a second drop-down. Not necessarily looking for action, just wanted to register my feedback czar 00:11, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Correct wording in Notifications

On my Notifications page, for Unread Messages, it states "There are no notifications matching this criteria." This should be "criterion". In other places, "query" is used - perhaps a better, simpler term?Kenwyn74 (talk) 22:19, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it should be "criterion", being the singular of "criteria", which is plural. But I've had difficulty persuading others in the past. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:44, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
The qqq message says it refers to "filters" plural, so, I'll instead suggest the line be changed to "[...] these criteria." - phab:T143072. Thanks :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:27, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

E-mail alert

Usually when I receive an e-mail alert, it's bare. This morning I received one, and there's the beginning of a sentence included (like with notifications). What is that fragment from, and can I see more of it (it's not clickable)?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:35, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

@Bbb23: This was implemented in phab:T121831. It intentionally just includes part of the subject line, to potentially give the recipient a hint as to what the email is about. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Heh, because you can't click on it, it comes off more as a tease than anything else, especially, as in this case, when I never received the e-mail that was supposedly sent. Thanks for replying.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:32, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
@Bbb23: Re: not receiving email - that might be related to phab:T66795 (tech details in phab:T134886#2291395) if the sender has a @yahoo.* or @mail.ru email account set in their preferences. I'm nudging some people about that bug, now. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:54, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
I use gmail. Sometimes, when gmail receives an e-mail from yahoo, it throws it into my spam folder because of a "security" dispute between the two providers, but I've never seen it not arrive at all. As for mail.ru, that's not a host I normally receive e-mail from.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:04, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Push notifications for Chrome and other browsers

Are push notifications for Chrome and other browsers something that is being planned or worked on? This would be a very useful feature.--Joel Amos (talk) 08:01, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

One of the problems here is that sending push notifications requires quite a bit of software integration (connecting with multiple push parties, batching and lots of async behavior). Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a large and well maintained open source project that can be reused by WMF, so adding this would require quite a bit of development work by WMF engineers. It has been on a 'nice to have' list for a long time, but as far as I'm aware, there is no timeline. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:26, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Mistaken notification of reverted edit?

I received a notification today that my edit to Garhwali language was reverted by this one. This seems to be an error, as the later edit did not restore the external link I removed, instead it removed two further ones among other changes. Not had this happen before, has there been a change?: Noyster (talk), 22:19, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

@Noyster: I expect that what happened is that Mild Bill Hiccup (talk · contribs) first went to the page history (notice that there are two columns of radiobuttons between the column of "prev" links and the column of dates); I imagine that Mild Bill Hiccup used those radiobuttons to select two non-consecutive edits, then clicked Compare selected revisions, then used the "undo" link at upper right. This doesn't just undo a whole sequence of edits, it also causes a reversion notification to be sent to all non-IP users who made edits in that sequence. This is not new behaviour, but AFAIK has been normal ever since reverts were added to the notifications system. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:58, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
@Redrose64: @Noyster: Thank you (@Redrose64), for that helpful explanation! --Mike Schwartz (talk) 18:04, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

An idea:

How hard [or easy?] would it be, for the script subroutine (or, piece of code) that

"causes a reversion notification to be sent [...]"

to be modified to check (to find out) whether or not the "undo" was an undo of "more than one" edit -- ? --
If it is not too difficult, then maybe the reversion notification that gets sent out to all of the "reverted" editors involved, could be modified, in that case, to include a sentence explaining that

"The edit[s] you made (that just got reverted) may have comprised only part of the sequence of (several) changes that got reverted [in one fell swoop]."

to each recipient.
Maybe the explanation could include another sentence, saying [something like]

"If the sequence of changes that just got reverted included any edits that were already reverting each other, then the confusion, "if any", can be cleared up by looking at the diff listing."

If such a "proactive" feature could be implemented, without an undue amount of coding / implementation effort, then it would probably go a long way -- (right?) -- toward the goal of preempting the need for the kind of question from User:Noyster that you (User:Redrose64) so promptly answered.
Just an idea (/slash, "question") :-) ! --Mike Schwartz (talk) 18:04, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
@Mike Schwartz:A message of this sort would certainly help, as it is misleading to be told straight out "your edit got reverted" when that was not the effect of the later edit. I'd try to make the wording as concise as possible though: something like "Your edit to <page> may have been reverted by a later edit - please check recent page history": Noyster (talk), 18:34, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
I tried to reproduce this issue yesterday and couldn't. I'll ask if it might have been fixed recently, and also test again, today. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:53, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@Redrose64, Noyster, and Mike Schwartz: Hi, per above, I've tried again, and still cannot reproduce this. I've filed phab:T146326 to get help from the developers, to determine whether the behaviour has changed (on purpose or accidentally).
If the behaviour has changed, do you think it should be re-introduced (with the alternate message as suggested above), or is/was this notification behaviour generally not helpful at all and should be removed/left out? Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
On further thought I'd go for the option to remove the new behaviour (if it is new). There are many scenarios but this sort of sequence occurs quite a lot:
  1. Edit by Vandal A
  2. Edit by Vandal B
  3. I revert Vandal B, not spotting what Vandal A did. Vandal B gets an alert
  4. Vandal B reverts me to reinstate his own vandalism. I get an alert
  5. Another editor steps in, checks more thoroughly than I did and reverts right back to the condition before edit (1). It seems as if with the present behaviour, vandals A and B, and I, all get alerts (so I have had 2 alerts for my 1 edit).
For most of us any page we edit probably goes on to our watchlist, at least for a time; and of course any revert can be done "by hand" without using a rollback or undo button, so not triggering an alert at all. Let's keep it simple and say notification only for a direct revert of an immediately preceding edit: Noyster (talk), 22:47, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Mark all as read automatically

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T146294

I think this was perhaps a casualty of the overhaul, put previously, if I clicked on the notification icon in the toolbar to see any new notices, once I clicked out of it, it would have marked what I just saw as read. Some users may not like this feature, but I certainly did, over needing to click the icon, do what I choose, and then click "Mark all as read" when I'm done. If possible, I'd like to see the "auto" mark return, even if just as an option users can check in their preferences. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:46, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

@Favre1fan93: There were also editors who disliked that feature, as it caused them to miss exactly which notifications were new, especially when they had many new notifications. The feature was changed to make it harder for editors to accidentally miss notifications, because that scenario is worse than needing to click "mark all as read".
Re: adding a new preference, that would be the ideal from our editor perspective; but it would for everything, and every additional preference complicates a large number of aspects... I wrote an essay (with volunteer hat) at mw:Just make it a user preference about this, listing some of the difficulties, and some of the benefits (aka the reasons why we always ask). I hope the top half helps explain why this particular request is more complicated than it might seem - especially as it basically entails a request for a per-notification-type preference, i.e. another new checkbox next to every item in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. It's a difficult and subjective balance, matching complexity/power with simplicity. HTH. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:04, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
@Quiddity (WMF): I don't see how another check box for every item would be need; rather just one to make all notifications "auto mark" or "not auto mark". And seeing how it was a feature that was changed, (versus making a "new" feature become an option), I think that would give it a bit more weight in a discussion to have the option back. Just my thoughts. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:24, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@Favre1fan93: Ah sorry, I was extrapolating too far (and/or guessing what other editors would want). Something that does it for all notifications might be possible, perhaps via userscript, I'll ask. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:49, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@Quiddity (WMF): Thanks. Much appreciated. I might not follow the Phabricator progress, so if you'd kindly ping me here, or on my talk, either way with the result, that would also be appreciated. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

No line wrap

Long lines don't wrap for me at Special:Notifications. I have to scroll right to see the end. The longest line determines how far to scroll to see the right-most part of the interface. For me it's 205 characters (a thanks for ):

Undid revision 737067374 by [[Special:Contributions/216.66.124.190|216.66.124.190]] ([[User talk:216.66.124.190|talk]]). Confuses instead of clarifies, negative integers are often included in whole numbers"

Tested on Windows Vista in Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera, Safari, all with same result. Also the same in other skins and at other Wikimedia wikis. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:44, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Yup, I noticed/filed that yesterday as phab:T146223. Thanks though! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:40, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: This should be fixed now. Thanks again. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 16:57, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it wraps perfectly now. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:06, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Notifications for user page changes

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T3876

Can we add a notification for user page edits? --NeilN talk to me 18:43, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

That feature request is tracked at phab:T3876 (note it starts off with ancient discussion about the original enotif system (the "email me when a page on my watchlist changes" preference). I've noted the fresh request, and agree it would be great. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 19:26, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. --NeilN talk to me 19:30, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Replies

Why don't I automatically get a notification when someone replies to me on a talk page? Benjamin (talk) 16:54, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

@Benjaminikuta: Please give an example of a reply or thread where you weren't notified, but believe that you should have been. Also, please state if you received a notification for this post. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:17, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I only get a notification when someone mentions my username, but they don't always do that. Benjamin (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
There you are then, Benjaminikuta: a link to your user page (either directly, as I did here, or via a template, as I did in my previous reply) is essential for a notification to be created. Otherwise, how is the notification system going to know who to notify? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I don't know, is it a technical problem? It seems like it'd be easy to implement something like reddit's comment system. Benjamin (talk) 23:55, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Triggering events

This seems incomplete. For example, I just got a notice that "You just made your ten thousandth edit; thank you so very much!" Andrew D. (talk) 12:34, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

A) Congrats! 10+ years, and 10k edits, are worthy of deep appreciation. :)
B) These are mw:Help:Notifications/Notifications_types#Milestone notifications, implemented via phab:T124003. They just link to the diff of the edit which triggered the notification. They are intended to be very lightweight encouragement/appreciation, in particular for Newcomers, and perhaps m:exopedians. We don't want to encourage the negative aspects of editcountitis, but do want to encourage the personality-types who will appreciate this kind of milestone. With all that in mind, what aspects of the feature do you think could be changed or enhanced in some way? Thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:51, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
C)I agree its incomplete, I was trying to trigger summary emails over longer time scales Krb19 (talk) 11:57, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Failure to fetch

I am seeing this message both when I click the dropdown icon or when I visit Special:Notifications

Failed to fetch notifications.

I don't see this listed under known bugs. Does anyone know what could cause it? Ranze (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

@Ranze: This is a side-effect of a problem with the servers - the technical people are working on it. It is being discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#server 503 errors/possible Twinkle issues. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:17, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

They might have fixed it by now, I just got a notification of your reply. 16:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Twinkle reverts

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T153570

Twinkle reverts don't trigger a notification: this revert didn't notify me even though two of my edits were reverted. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:49, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if Twinkle is editing the earlier version, then saving. I believe that would not generate an "undo" notification. Johnuniq (talk) 23:07, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
No, Twinkle does use the undo facility of mediawiki, but the API undo notification was recently broken. There is also phab:T153570 that comes into play in this instance. Cenarium (talk) 19:44, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
So even TW's "restore this revision" is effectively a mass undo and not a regular revision restore? And does a regular revision restore trigger a notification? Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:28, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
No, I hadn't noticed this edit was a revision restore. Yes, TW restores specify undo/undoafter so are considered as a mass undo by mediawiki. And manual revision restores don't trigger a notification, I've made a bug about that too. Cenarium (talk) 21:19, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Another example: this edit by Cyberpower678 (talk · contribs) "reverted" these six edits, but did not notify me - even though one of the "reverted" edits was mine. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:09, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

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mention successful + failure notifications

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