Talk:Abiy Ahmed

Hello all, The page lacks neutrality. The page is more of propaganda for Abiy Ahmed than showing the real picture. It is mostly written to glorify Abiy Ahmed's image.

• It has many dubious claims which seem to be added to glorify Abiy Ahmed. They could be claims Abiy Ahmed said, but they are very dubious, and they seem to be added for poetical advantage purposes.
• It is unproportionally critical of Tigray People's Liberation Front (TPLF).
• It does not address almost at all the 3.5 million internally displaced persons (IDPs), who the vast majority were displaced as a result of Abiy's reforms.
• There are reports of organised ethnic cleansing and systematic persecutions by Abiy Ahmed's regional local-officials, police, and militias which the article needs to address well.^{[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]}

Best regards, Truth gatekeeper (talk) 08:51, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Note that this editor has been indefinitely blocked, partially because of WP:BLP violations, also misuse of sources, original research, stating disputed matter as fact, and NPOV violations, ironically. Generally a lack of understanding of policy. Doug Weller talk 19:06, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

However, her heart was in the right place and the indefinite ban was eventually lifted after one and a half long years (although she is currently subject to an unfair and unreasonable six month topic ban on editing "Horn of Africa" pages). I can't resist noting that recent very sad developments in Tigray indicate why she was so upset about biased reporting... BushelCandle 06:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Abiy Ahmed is a war criminal. That's undisputable.

https://www.justsecurity.org/77590/famine-in-tigray-humanitarian-access-and-the-war-crime-of-starvation/?fbclid=IwAR2AkIz5bsvu03uDWqWxydUTskXQps4pBNo9W43oanvjH3DAX8rkyD-S1ws

https://opiniojuris.org/2021/05/18/pandemic-of-hunger-symposium-the-ethio-eritrean-hunger-plan-for-tigray-and-the-failure-of-resolution-2417/

These are reputable sources. The Ethiopian minister's Facebook pages aren't.

At the time of writing this, our article currently states:

"As a teenager and in early 1991, ^[1] he joined the armed struggle against the Marxist–Leninist regime of Mengistu Haile Mariam after the death of his oldest brother. He did so as a member of ODP (Oromo Democratic Party), which at that time was a tiny organization of only around 200 fighters in the large coalition army of about 100,000 fighters that resulted in regime's fall later that year.^[2][3][4] As there were only so few ODP fighters in an army with its core of about 90,000 Tigrayans, Abiy quickly had to learn the Tigrinya language. As a speaker of Tigrinya in a security apparatus dominated by Tigrayans, he could move forward with his military career.^[2]"

Although this is an extraordinary claim it is not impossible but I would like to see a better source that Abiy was only fourteen and a half when he joined the armed struggle.

Does anyone know if there is an official biography that I can look at online? -- BushelCandle06:16, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Recently, an editor using the IP address of 197.156.95.9 made the following comment on my talk page: "...as I've seen in the article Abiy Ahmed, he's in 15th prime minister, not fourth. In addition, the person full name describes in bold. There is million people who have a name "Abiy". Otherwise it's seems like disruption or vandalism due to ambiguous office holding position. If he is in fourth position, it should be supported by reliable sources."

Recently, an IP editor made the unsourced change from 4th to 15th.

There is a tradition for biographies of living persons in the English language Wikipedia to only use the shortened form of an individuals name after the first mention (in bold).

Although Abiy may be regarded as the 15th head of government of modern Ethiopia, the "Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia’s Office of the Prime Minister" currently states on its website page: "H.E. Abiy Ahmed Ali (PhD) is the fourth Prime Minister of the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia"^[1] and I sincerely believe that the government website is a reasonably reliable source.--BushelCandle (talk) 00:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

There are currently 143 watchers of this BLP page but it took over 12 hours from this edit changing Abiy's father's ethnicity, in contradiction to the NYT source, to be reverted. Boud (talk) 15:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

It took over 12 hours for this edit referring to genocide and concentration camps to be reverted. There's nothing wrong with raising the issues of genocide and concentration camps in this context, but the article is an encyclopedic article for a living person, so they can only be added to the page with good quality sources that establish the notability of the info and with words that accurately and carefully summarise what the sources say. Are most of the watchers just lurkers? Boud (talk) 19:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)