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Neutral point of view

This article seems heavily biased toward genetic explanations for addiction, based inappropriately on one or two papers that seem to have had little real influence in the professional literature, in violation of Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Due and undue weight. A Google Scholar search for Nestler 2013 and Ruffle 2014, on which a great deal of material in this article is based, shows 44 citations and 1(!) citation, respectively, compared to 704 for Dube et al. 2003, which advances a psychosocial interpretation. Meanwhile, the National Institute on Drug Abuse (USA) says that genetic factors account for only about half of a person's vulnerability to addiction.

Coconutporkpie (talk) 23:06, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

You're confusing risk factors with pathophysiology. The transcriptional and epigenetic proteins that the article refers to are mechanisms that mediate the development of an addiction (pathophysiology), not the proclivity for developing one (risk factor). AFAIK, the transcriptional and epigenetic mechanisms to which the article refers aren't associated with polymorphisms that affect individual susceptibility to developing an addiction. Even if a few are associated, their contribution to overall risk is likely insignificant since they're just individual genes. The article doesn't actually say anywhere that transcription factors and epigenetic mechanisms are risk factors, excluding the transgenerational epigenetic inheritance section, although that's a risk factor associated with a gene-environment interaction, not genes alone. Seppi333 (Insert ) 00:42, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Probably worth pointing out that the Nestler review that you've linked above covers genetic/environmental risk factors and is consistent with the NIDA statement you mentioned.
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Seppi333 (Insert ) 00:52, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I've added the material from the above excerpt to the Addiction#Risk factors section to make this clear to other readers. Seppi333 (Insert ) 02:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Recent edit

This edit introduced content based upon a minority perspective on addiction to the lead. The statements that were introduced were too vague to be useful to readers, so the material needs to be revised so as to make a more concrete statement about what addiction is from this viewpoint; simply saying something along the lines of "some object to the notion that addiction is a brain disease" is not useful. After an appropriate statement for the lead is decided upon, this content will also need to be covered in the body of the article. Seppi333 (Insert ) 14:57, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Changing this sentence:
Despite the involvement of a number of psychosocial factors, a biological process – one which is induced by repeated exposure to an addictive stimulus – is the core pathology that drives the development and maintenance of an addiction.
to
Despite the involvement of a number of psychosocial factors, a biological process – one which is induced by repeated exposure to an addictive stimulus pathology is widely seen as the key the development and maintenance of an addiction.
is not supported by the citations given or the citations added. Seppi333 (Insert ) 13:00, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Environmental factors - traumatic experiences

@JzG and Jg16540: Please discuss this content here. Seppi333 (Insert ) 20:16, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Not necessary, since this is a routine action removing evident self-citation. I have adivsed the user that if he wants his work cited here, as pretty much every single one of his edits indicates to be the case, then he should propose it on Talk. I have no opinion on its merits, only that it should not be added by a co-author. Guy (Help!) 20:35, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
The self-publication policies are as follows:
"Using material you have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, including WP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive. Citations should be in the third person and should not place undue emphasis on your work. When in doubt, defer to the community's opinion."
"Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as: the material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim; it does not involve claims about third parties; it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source; there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; the article is not based primarily on such sources."
Therefore, a co-author can most definitely cite a paper as long as it is relevant, accurate and not excessive. Writing two sentences and citing multiple papers is most definitely not self-promotion. All that matters here are the merits of the citation: child abuse is an important risk factor for addiction. Therefore, the peer-reviewed research supporting this should be included. Please add the following back:
"Traumatic experiences have been linked to the development of addictive and substance-related problems.[33][34] Interpersonal traumas, such as child abuse and violent assaults, are particularly predictive of substance-related problems.[35][36][37]"
33) Stewart, S.H. Alcohol abuse in individuals exposed to trauma: A critical review. Psychol. Bull. 1996, 120, 83–112
34) Bailey, K.M.; Stewart, S. Relations among trauma, PTSD, and substance misuse: The scope of the problem. In Trauma and Substance Abuse: Causes, Consequences, and Treatment of Comorbid Disorders, 2nd ed.; Ouimette, P., Read, J.P., Eds.; American Psychological Association: Washington, DC, USA, 2014; pp. 11–34
35) Guina, Jeffrey; Nahhas, Ramzi; Goldberg, Adam; Farnsworth, Seth (10 August 2016). "PTSD Symptom Severities, Interpersonal Traumas, and Benzodiazepines Are Associated with Substance-Related Problems in Trauma Patients". Journal of Clinical Medicine. 5 (8): 70. doi:10.3390/jcm5080070. PMID 27517964.
36)Ford, J.D.; Elhai, J.D.; Connor, D.F.; Frueh, B.C. Poly-victimization and risk of posttraumatic, depressive, and substance use disorders and involvement in delinquency in a national sample of adolescents. J. Adolesc. Health 2010, 46, 545–552.
37)Sullivan, T.P.; Cavanaugh, C.E.; Buckner, J.D.; Edmondson, D. Intimate partner violence (IPV) and drug and alcohol use problems among community women: The roles of physical, sexual, and psychological IPV and PTSD. J. Trauma Stress 2009, 22, 575–584.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Jg16540 (talkcontribs) 20:47, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

I have 43 years experience. Research and I believed a long with consular, scientists. And seven treatment sent errors. That all said I'm extremely to short on this ,I've done everything. Tar bits hard so do s coca Kimberly milanoski (talk) 06:14, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

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Arts & humanities approaches to addiction

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