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Bandy and field hockey

There are some sections of text in this article about bandy´s relationship to association football (also known as soccer) and its relationship to ice hockey, but it is also related to field hockey. Field hockey is a form of hockey just like bandy is, and bandy and field hockey both have eleven man teams, bent sticks and balls and are played at the approximately same size of field or rink, just like association football too by the way.

There is reason to believe that not only association football with its English roots but also field hockey with its roots in the same country have given much inspiration to bandy and the rules for this game in its early days in the late 19th Century, when many modern sports were developed, while ice hockey on the other hand seems to be somewhat younger as a sport and also has its origin in Canada, not in England, but still there were already a section about bandy and ice hockey. There is reason to elaborate on this, but I cannot really do it myself since I am no expert on sports history in general nor on theses sports in particular. Who would be able to write something about it? Are there some sources you could recommend which could be used to extend the section about this?  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 16:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)


How rude. How rude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Droöoooo (talk • contribs) 16:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
There are some texts about the similarity of Bandy and Field Hockey you can find online if you look for it. I don't know if these sources are good enough for an encyclopedic article on the subject, but they are qutie interesting (at least in my opinion):
Do what you want with these links. I don't know how to incorporate their meanings in this Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.104.137.42 (talk) 17:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Nice. Thank you. I will read these linked articles when I have the time.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 08:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
There is no doubt abour the similarities bwtween bandy and field hockey, but sources are needed. Are the links posted in this discussion credible ? Ove Raul (talk) 13:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
While the articles describe that there are similarities between the sports of bandy and field hockey, not much is said about a common origin and the rules are identified as being more close to association football. So the similarities could just as well be coincidental. You could write something in the article about similarities, but that's not really relevant. If there are sources credibly describing a common history of the two sports, this could be something to add to the article, but sources just describing casual talk about perceived visual similarities are not really interesting. GotoGothenburg (talk) 21:57, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
I think you have a point. Even if bandy and field hockey are both defined as hockey sports, the similarities may very well be considered to lie more in the visual impression to the casual spectator (both have bent sticks and a small ball) than in the rules and nature of the game actually played. I think some national federations may have governed both sports at times, but this does not mean the sports are more related than other sports, while bandy rules on the other hand has a clear historical connection to the laws of the game of association football. If there is to be a section on the similaries between bandy and field hockey in this article, other sources than the ones already listed in this discussion are likely needed.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 10:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
In Norway, Norway's Bandy Association is the organisation ruling both bandy and field hockey. Ove Raul (talk) 23:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
In the Soviet Union, bandy and field hockey were both governed by the Bandy and Field Hockey Federation of the USSR. Ove Raul (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, but not in present-day Russia, where field hockey has its own governing organisation. In Sweden, the Swedish Bandy Association used to manage field hockey until the 1970s but it later got its own assosiation and nowadays it has for some reason joined with the governing body of American football. Don't ask me why.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 11:15, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Italy

Italy has become a full member of the Federation of International Bandy, elected as such at the FIB Congress in June this year. Green leaves okay (talk) 11:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

This is not yet reflected in the map showing the member countries of the international federation. How can this map be updated? I don't have the technical skill to do it.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 10:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
I tried to ask for help at Wikimedia Commons where the map file is stored, but noone seems to notice this.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 11:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Upsala

The present world championship competition is played in Upsala in Sweden. It is the "B" world championship, for the slightly not best teams in the world. The better teams will play in the "A" world championship a bit later, if I understand it right. Shouldn't there be a page at the wikipedia about this year's bandy world championship? 2A00:801:719:DDE4:0:0:B1B7:65FD (talk) 07:09, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

The "B" division was played in Uppsala and that was the week before last. The "A" division started today and is played in Lidköping, also in Sweden. An article 2025 Bandy World Championship should of course be written about it. Here are some information and shedules presented by the Federation of International Bandy: https://worldbandy.com/season-2024-2025/fib-2025-world-championship-men-a/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandy långe (talk • contribs) 18:12, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
A 2025 Women's Bandy World Championship was also played in Lidköping, in the same week and on the same arena as the men's world championship. There ought to be created an article about this tournament too, of course. Bandy långe (talk) 20:45, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
The logo has been removed from the article about the Women's championship. I have asked to have it put in there again, but people don't care or don't know how to do it. Someone removed the image information allowing it be in the article because it was not exactly formulated in the right way, and then someone else removed it from the article. I don't know, it seems people are not interested in making things look correct.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 11:22, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
I have re-added the image of the logo for the 2025 Women's Bandy World Championship now. No big work, it's just to add the proper information on the file information page first. Ove Raul (talk) 20:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Spectators

I just added an interesting fact to the article. It is apparently a fact that the number of spectators for bandy is increasing in Sweden. Not by much, but it is still a difference to many other sports, where the audiences are decreasing in numbers. It would be interesting to have comparable information for other countries, if someone has access to it. Ove Raul (talk) 20:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

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