Talk:Bean/GA1

Lead overused the word "many", so I fixed that up. Floating Orb (talk) 20:53, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 02:10, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

I changed some wording to make a little more sense. Floating Orb (talk) 02:43, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:26, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

The sentence: "Cooking beans, without bringing them to a boil, in a slow cooker at a temperature well below boiling may not destroy toxins." comes out randomly. It sounds like a fun fact or trivia since it is additional information and has no elaboration. Should it be a note? Floating Orb (talk) 17:42, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Edited to make the safety point more clearly.

"Beans are a major source of dietary protein in much of Southeast Africa." does not fit the section of Toxins. It should be somewhere else. Floating Orb (talk) 17:44, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Removed; we already have much better structured geographic data in 'Taxonomic range' and 'Production'.

Citation 3 has a tag that says "page needed". Should that be fixed? Floating Orb (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Removed.

I was saying more like add the page. Floating Orb (talk) 18:06, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

There's another ref there already. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:54, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Okay. Floating Orb (talk) 01:07, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Citation 32 and 33 are counted as citations but shouldn't they be notes? Floating Orb (talk) 02:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Agree, done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:24, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

The lead section does not need citations if what it says is mentioned later by citations. This article has two citations in the lead. Floating Orb (talk) 18:03, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Should this be changed? Floating Orb (talk) 01:19, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Removed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:29, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

You can still use the citations later in the article though. Floating Orb (talk) 16:31, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

One of them is usable but not needed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Oh. Okay. Floating Orb (talk) 20:05, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

What are you going to do? Floating Orb (talk) 00:32, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

If this item is open, the answer is nothing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:32, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Okay. Floating Orb (talk) 23:24, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

It is no longer an independent source. Floating Orb (talk) 00:35, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

bbcgoodfood.com (citation 32, 38, and 39) may not be a reliable source for bias and self publishing. Floating Orb (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

No, the BBC is a national public broadcaster, known for its neutrality; it's the opposite of self-pub.

That isn't really true anymore. Immediate Media Co. owns now bbcgoodfood.com. Also, I said citation 33 was but that wasn't true since that is still owned by BBC. Floating Orb (talk) 00:33, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

All that is being claimed is that recipes exist; the website is certainly sufficient for that purpose. Chiswick Chap (talk) 05:32, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Okay. Floating Orb (talk) 16:36, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

• There is one citation needed tag in this article. Can you please fix that? Floating Orb (talk) 02:41, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

• Added ref. If you could please keep items separate (as this one now is) it'd be much easier to get this closed out promptly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:00, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

  Okay. Floating Orb (talk) 17:33, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Earwig says there is a 24.8% similarity copyright violation in "Health concerns Toxins" section paragraph three to https://web.archive.org/web/20130522113641/http://www.scidev.net/fr/climate-change-and-energy/tsunami/news/actualit-s-d-afrique-sub-saharienne-en-bref-du-25-.html. "Beans are a major source of dietary protein in Kenya, Malawi, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia." might have also been taken word for word. Floating Orb (talk) 19:47, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

It does look like it. Paraphrased. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Floating Orb (talk) 20:00, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure about scope. It does have large graphs of beans for taxonomic range and production, maybe over stepping a bit. Floating Orb (talk) 18:23, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

The 'Taxonomic range' section sketches out the wide diversity of legumes called beans, and the table there is clearly essential to enable readers to glimpse that the term has far larger extension than, say, soybeans or broad beans that they may be familiar with. Similarly in 'Production', tables indicate production of the major types of bean, production by country, and dry beans by country, showing the commercially important aspects of the subject. It's hard to see how the article could avoid having something similar to this. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:42, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Okay. Floating Orb (talk) 20:46, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

The lead in this article does not fit with WP:Lead. It doesn't summarize any of the information about bean production, cultivation, human society effects, or history. Floating Orb (talk) 17:58, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

This needs to be fixed. Floating Orb (talk) 17:58, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Wilco, but the formatting of this GAN is becoming increasingly chaotic and hard to follow. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:51, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Lead rewritten to summarize article contents. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:21, 9 July 2025 (UTC)