Talk:Dobrá u Frýdku-Místku/GA1
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Nominator: CosXZ (talk · contribs) 18:18, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Zzz plant (talk · contribs) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Hi CosXZ, thank you for your work on this article. I've reviewed it against the GACR and have some comments organized below. The article needs a fair amount of expansion, so I will be placing on hold and can check back in seven days. Best, Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- @CosXZ: just checking in about this review- I saw you integrated accidents and future into the history section, thank you! Since there are some other areas to address overall, I can extend the hold or if you don't think you'll have time this week I can close it as unsuccessful with no prejudice against future nomination. Best, Zzz plant (talk) 19:53, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Zzz plant I'll try to address the comments so you can keep the review on hold. Cos (X + Z) Happy quarter century Wikipedia! 21:31, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for working on the prose and scope. The article has definitely been improved but right now it still falls short of GACR. Rather than extending the hold again, I will close as unsuccessful so it can be improved without the pressure of a ticking clock. Basically the core issues are:
- the lede still does not provide a standalone summary of the body. this should be a relatively easy fix but it was noted in my first comments on 7 June and I emphasized it again on 20 June. the lovely expansion you did of the station description is not reflected in the lede at all.
- Because most of the sources are offline, my spot-check was limited; however, the accessible online citations I checked raised TSI concerns.
- less critically, there are several sentences that read as though they were directly translated from Czech, like
"There is a deviation of the axis in the station"
, which sounds confusing in English
- The article is best served by a source audit, copy-edit, and lede expansion outside of the GA process. There is of course no prejudice against a future nomination once these points are addressed, and thank you for your work on the article so far. Best, Zzz plant (talk) 02:48, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for working on the prose and scope. The article has definitely been improved but right now it still falls short of GACR. Rather than extending the hold again, I will close as unsuccessful so it can be improved without the pressure of a ticking clock. Basically the core issues are:
- @Zzz plant I'll try to address the comments so you can keep the review on hold. Cos (X + Z) Happy quarter century Wikipedia! 21:31, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
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Prose
- I'm going to skip the detailed prose review for now as I feel significant expansion is needed and I don't want either of us trapped in a fix loop Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- Okay I've done a first pass look at prose. The article needs a copy-edit. I've picked out some of what I noticed:
"When Trans-Olza was owned by Poland, the station turned into a border station, and passport controlling started at the station."
controlling sounds strange here, suggest "passport control began" or "passport checks were introduced" Zzz plant (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)- Sentence removed. Cos (X + Z) Happy quarter century Wikipedia! 21:15, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
"On 1 December 2019, the ticket office closed in the station, because of its economy."
this sounds unnatural in English, suggest "due to financial reasons" or "for economic reasons" Zzz plant (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)- Sentence removed. Cos (X + Z) Happy quarter century Wikipedia! 21:15, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
"...construction of an island platform with an underpass that runs underneath the station, and an escalate of top-speed on the main line track to 120 km/h (75 mph)."
this sentence is confusing, it sounds maybe like a direct translation. I suggest something like "...the construction of an island platform accessed via a pedestrian underpass, and an increase of the maximum line speed to 120 km/h (75 mph)." Zzz plant (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)- Reworded. Cos (X + Z) Happy quarter century Wikipedia! 21:16, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
"planned the station to be modernised in the future"
redundant, don't need to say both planned and in the future. suggest simplifying to "planned to modernise the station" Zzz plant (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)- Reworded. Cos (X + Z) Happy quarter century Wikipedia! 21:16, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
"the building of three tracks which are for transferring the train"
quite wordy, I suggest "for train transfers" "to facilitate train transfers" Zzz plant (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)- Reworded. Cos (X + Z) Happy quarter century Wikipedia! 21:17, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- verb tense changes between past and present tense a bit confusingly in station description. If the layout still exists, stick to the present tense for descriptions Zzz plant (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- five "siding"s in relatively close proximity near end of second para, would try to reduce this (particularly when 2 in a single sentence) Zzz plant (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
MoS
- the lede doesn't yet provide a standalone summary of the body. it should mention the station's history, building/architecture, its role on the line, the presence of sidings/freight connections, and the planned modernization. Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- less critically, I would integrate the single accident into the history section unless more can be said about safety / incidents. it feels a bit orphaned as-is. Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- I would also do away with the standalone future section, this will easily get out of date. usually I see future plans for transit articles discussed in history too, using careful phrasing because plans sometimes change Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Verifiability
Reference formatting
Source reliability
- I'm a little concerned about kolejcieszyn.pl, particularly given the extent to which the article relies on it. per machine translation of their about page, they seem to identify as "hobbyist, non-profit project". there is an editorial team but they also rely on user participation to make their content. I'm not saying this is unreliable per se, but I would be cautious about using it as a sole source on so much of the history. Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Spot check
- I did a brief pass of a few citations and didn't see any concerns. but as with prose review, given the level of expansion needed I will come back to this for a more detailed look if scope is broadened. Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- reviewing sources via machine translation: Zzz plant (talk) 02:48, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- [4]:
"In April 1939, Antonín Zápotocký, the future president of Czechoslovakia, was arrested at the station for trying to illegally cross the Polish border and was sentenced to the Pankrác Prison for twelve months."
partial - verifies his arrest details but April 1939 to February 1940 is not 12 months Zzz plant (talk) 02:48, 23 June 2026 (UTC) - [4]:
"During the Second World War, the Nazis damaged twenty-six locomotives at the station to block trains on the railway line from giving supplies to the Soviets."
- generally verifies, although the context could be clearer. from my reading, the source says Nazis did this to complicate the Soviet advance, whereas the article makes it sound more like the trains were actively helping the USSR by giving them supplies. Zzz plant (talk) 02:48, 23 June 2026 (UTC) - [5]:
"At the end of 2008, a siding to the Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Czech car factory was put into operation, which was connected to the station."
from my reading of the source, "put into operation at the end of 2008" is not fully supported- the connection was finished in late 2008, but operations began in early 2009. Zzz plant (talk) 02:48, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
Copyright
Scope
- the coverage does not yet feel broad enough for a railway station article. the Czech article, which I am reading via machine translation, includes considerably more information about the station's layout and operation: track numbering, sidings, platform lengths/heights, passenger access, level crossings, and the station building. I am not saying that, for instance, all of the highly technical signaling detail should be reproduced in English (summary would be fine), but the article ought to cover the layout, platform, siding, accessibility, and facilities so the reader can understand the station as an operational place, not just via chronology. Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- per above, there is no excessive detail but this is by virtue of article sparseness. Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Neutrality
Stability
- no signs of edit warring or ongoing content disputes, either in article history or on talk page. nominator is primary author (90.7%).
Illustration
- image of the station in infobox is relevant and CC BY-SA 3.0 cz Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- optional (non-GACR) suggestion: add alt text for accessibility Zzz plant (talk) 16:00, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.