Apologies for my edit summary.
The article needs a complete rewrite from whatever sources we can find that are clearly independent and more than just pr pieces. Are there any? - Hipal (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
- I can't add here all of them. From what I've found,
- There are several more reputable media sources available (beyond those already cited in the article). We can include these to further strengthen the GNG case. , , , , , , , , , , etc. 현서 김 (talk) 18:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Those are all currently in the article, or are some potential sources? --Hipal (talk) 02:09, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hello Magazine and Hola are poor, highly promotional sources. Treat as a self-published about self. Biz417 and Biz417 Magazine too.
- People can be used, though entertainment. The two Vanity Fair pieces are the same article, but can be used, though puff-pieces. The STLMag piece seems ok.
- I'm not sure what to make of the Barron's piece. It appears that the author is a contributor of some sort rather than an employee. It's a human interest story. --Hipal (talk) 23:05, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hey Hipal, so sorry again for the super late reply!
- Thanks for your review. Do you believe those sources aren't enough? Seems like we need around three for the GNG, right? I've found a few more that might help:, , , , , , . But from what I can see, most of the key info seems to be coming from local papers like the Springfield Business Journal, Springfield Daily Citizen, and Springfield News-Leader. They seem pretty solid and more on-topic, content-wise, but yeah, hard to say if there's any bias. Might be worth leaning on WP:PARTISAN in this case.
- like in this article, for example The Hollywood Reporter cites Springfield News-Leader:
- The poor sources need to be removed, along with any corresponding content that can't be supported by a BLP-quality reference.
- Thanks for looking for potential refs. I'll look them over when I get a chance. --Hipal (talk) 00:23, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Hello Hipal, you have been inactive for nearly a month, and I have significantly revised the article, including a complete rewrite of the text and an update of the sources. If you have any suggestions for further improvements, please feel free to proceed without my involvement. It was a pleasure working with you. 현서 김 (talk) 16:12, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- If my edit summary needs elaboration, let me know. --Hipal (talk) 14:27, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Responding to @Hipal's restoring the promotional tag after I made some major cuts removing promotional content, I'd like further elaboration on what needs to be cut here since this discussion is stale.
- Could you either address what you view as content issues or specify the portions you feel are promotional so it can be resolved either by myself or @현서 김? 🄻🄰 12:34, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- I identified my concerns when I started this discussion, "The article needs a complete rewrite from whatever sources we can find that are clearly independent and more than just pr pieces." --Hipal (talk) 16:01, 18 July 2025 (UTC)