Talk:Godzilla/Archive 3

I'm going to be holding a vote to add Wikizilla (http://wikizilla.org) as an external link to this page and every single other page related to the Godzilla and Gamera franchises. I hope that by 2 weeks from when I post this we can start wrapping up on a decision.

As you may or may not know, there was recently a vote on the SpaceGodzilla talk page asking for Wikizilla to have external links leading to their site at the bottom of these pages. It was eventually agreed upon and the link was added to the SpaceGodzilla page. I tried to add these links to other pages and I accept that was a mistake and take full responsibility for it.

I'd like to stress the fact that Wikizilla is NOT the Godzilla Wikia and has since moved to a new website (at http://wikizilla.org ) as mentioned above.

I'd also like to clarify that I am not trying to add Wikizilla as a source or reference but rather merely as an external link. Other wikis are linked to in their franchise pages like Bulbapedia for Pokemon and Infosphere for Futurama and Wookiepedia for Star Wars and Memory Alpha for Star Trek, etc. EncyclopediaGojira (talk) 18:29, 30th January 2017 (UTC)

Y I vote for Wikizilla having external links on pages related to Godzilla and Gamera. EncyclopediaGojira (talk) 18:29, 30th January 2017 (UTC)

Y I also vote for Wikizilla to have external links on Wikipedia. --BrayLockBoy (talk) 19:24, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Y I vote for wikizilla to have external links on this site גודזילה (talk) 19:43, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Y I also vote for Wikizilla to be an external link here. MosuFan2004 (talk) 20:05, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Y As much as I dislike Wikizilla for its lack of references and behind the scenes info (doesn't hold a candle to Memory Alpha and Wookiepedia) I agree it should be added. Mariomassone (talk) 22:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Y I've seen the arguments made and they've presented a very strong case for this. I approve. Armegon (talk) 05:03, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Comment - It's customary to indicate the benefits behind a proposal. I've not seen this described. On the face of it, I don't like just blanket approval of every page being linked to wikizilla. It's a fan site, nothing wrong with that, but it is commercial, and putting in these links indiscriminately comes across as advertising to me. Alaney2k (talk) 15:37, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

http://wikizilla.org does not have any advertisements. To reiterate, Wikizilla is not the Godzilla Wikia (godzilla.wikia). 493Titanollante (talk) 20:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok. My mistake. But what information does wikizilla have that is not present here? Alaney2k (talk) 14:35, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

It's much more in depth and possesses a lot of trivia and information that isn't strictly laid out in the movies. Plus it contains far more information on topics such as Toho's tokusatsu shows, the individual monsters themselves (such as roar information, design details, all of the monsters' appearances) and more things like galleries of images and monsters that aren't big enough to have their own pages here and infinitely more information on Godzilla video games and other aspects of the franchise. EncyclopediaGojira (talk) 16:20, 3rd February 2017 (UTC)

Y I support the additions of the links to Wikizilla.org. 493Titanollante (talk) 20:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay it's been almost 3 weeks now and there have been zero dissenting votes. I am counting this as a binding vote and will soon move forward with adding links to all the Godzilla pages. EncyclopediaGojira (talk) 23:44, 16th February 2017 (UTC)

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Change "Dinosaur-like" (Species) to "Irradiated Godzillasaur/Prehistoric Natural Predator" 192.149.88.216 (talk) 13:41, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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Add "to" to the following sentence: "The character is commonly alluded TO by the epithet "King of the Monsters"; a phrase..." Janjiriescapee (talk) 04:16, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Done SparklingPessimist ^{Scream at me!} 05:00, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

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Under the Cultural Impact sub-section, change 'Jaws (1995) to Jaws (1975)'. Jaws came out in 1975, not 1995. The sourcing is correct, this is likely a typo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ledvelvet21 (talk • contribs)

 Done NiciVampireHeart 12:34, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Godzilla does actually go out of his way to save humans at least in some older films, an example is in Terror of Mechagodzilla there are two kids about to be stomped by Titanosaurus. They cry out to Godzilla to save them and he appears, though it's not shown if they were saved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:DA42:9800:89C5:58ED:3AF6:C1B6 (talk) 22:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

That sort of "in-universe" debate is irrelevant to this article as a source of real-world information. 98.122.172.20 (talk) 03:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Aside from Shin Godzilla, where the ateji spelling is explicitly used to name Godzilla in the film, are there any other instances of the ateji spelling being used? Gistech (talk) 20:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

The page still doesn't list his latest & currently greatest size. In Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters, he is at least 318.8 meters and 100,000 tonnes, as seen in a quick shot of a computer screen used by the humans. The fact that Godzilla has been portrayed in anime format for the first time, at least, since the obscure Godzillaland OVAs, or we could say he has been portrayed in anime format for the first time in a movie. 112.201.172.46 (talk) 11:31, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

We should first find verifiable sources confirming the size before adding anything. Armegon (talk) 13:44, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Dispute over Sizing: Despite the link to Toho Studios calling the original Godzilla (1954) as 50m tall, the English language version Godzilla: King of the Monsters refers to Godzilla as variously 400' tall and 300' tall. Godzilla holds a train car in his mouth easily and his foot is somewhat shorter than the train car (perhaps 3/4 of the length). In 1954, those cars were 18 meters (59') long, 2.8 (9') meters wide, and 3.5 meters (11.5') high (https://locomotive.fandom.com/wiki/Eidan_500_series), suggesting that 300-400' high is more believable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EvanRobinson (talk • contribs) 02:28, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

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2001:8003:603B:E700:B56C:2D3A:C313:5F8A (talk) 09:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

big guy

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sincerely, Deauthorized. (talk) 09:29, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

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kong is better than godzilla the thing got beat by a giant monkey ooh oh ah ah bigboy baboon Bigboy225ohyeah (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

@Bigboy225ohyeah: Please use WP:SANDBOX for expermenting with editing. RudolfRed (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:27, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

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Can i edit this this page. i will not crash this page. only a small edit 2409:4073:293:1E1B:955:5ED0:5043:98E0 (talk) 12:41, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 14:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Should we consider changing Godzilla Earth's height to 318.8 meters instead of 300 meters since one of the movies says he's 318.8 meters on a computer screen?--VaderRaptor 22:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

We would have to cite secondary sources (reliable articles) rather than primary sources (the movie). Are there sources that conflict one or the other? If so, we can say "this source reports this height however this source reports that height" etc. Armegon (talk) 06:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has an article on the "-zilla" suffix that should be linked here. it seems to me. I don't know whether to put it as a "See Also" or mention the use of the suffix in the article and I will leave that for someone who has been previously involved with this article. Wastrel Way (talk) 13:04, 3 November 2021 (UTC) Eric

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I would like to add this picture to be the picture when Godzilla: is hovered over

Also, I know some factual errors, and I would like to correct them Goldfish&crayons (talk) 15:57, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The picture you have suggested is currently at risk of deletion (see commons page) as you have not provided information about the copyright status, please could you update this on Wikimedia Commons before reopening this request. With regard to the factual errors, you have not given any details. Thanks, DigitalChutney (talk) 16:19, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Can I merge:

into:

Faster than Thunder (talk) 19:46, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Support. This new versions keeps things short and simple. Armegon (talk) 20:24, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done Faster than Thunder (talk) 19:13, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

godzilla 27.63.237.224 (talk) 17:07, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

But really king ghidorah is real ? 27.63.221.255 (talk) 17:11, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

/// 106.216.134.245 (talk) 17:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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ISBN for The Kaiju Film: A Critical Study of Cinema's Biggest Monsters by Barr in the sources is incorrect. It should be 978-0786499632. Braydenseims (talk) 22:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

I got curious and went digging: it was updated by a bot in this edit from an older ISBN-10. This totally legitimate looking site of which I have not verified the reliability lists both old ISBNs as for a digital edition, and the one you provided as a print edition of the same book.

But I've already changed it, and the one you provided actually has Google results, so unless anyone objects I'm going to leave it changed. 3mi1y (talk) 03:19, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done 3mi1y (talk) 03:07, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

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I would like to request that we simply add the Wikipedia page for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruo_Nakajima to the respective actor's name (in the list of powers) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlazetheGame (talk • contribs) 14:26, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

 Already done BlazetheGame, welcome back to Wikipedia! I hope you decide to stay around . As a gentle reminder, please remember to sign your messages so that users can easily identify who is saying what on talk pages. It would seem that in the infobox that a wiki-link to Haruo Nakajima is already present. Feel free to open another request if this is not what you meant. Cheers, and happy editing! —Sirdog (talk) 03:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Overall, GODZILLA IS A TRUE FORCE OF NATURE, WILLING TO FIGHT ANY CREATURE THAT THREATENS OUR PLANET. 71.37.194.27 (talk) 17:46, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

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Category:Fictional dragons JackTheRipper999666 (talk) 18:01, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. I don't see anything about it being a dragon in the article. RudolfRed (talk) 18:16, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Surely the intro should explicitly mention (not only in a footnote) that the original Japanese name was Gojira. Otherwise, the appearance of the name Gojira seems strange. I am adding it. Zaslav (talk) 22:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

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Remove the name “Dagon” from Godzilla’s list of aliases. Dagon was a separate member of the MonsterVerse Godzilla’s species, his corpse is seen in the 2014 installment and the comic detailing Godzilla’s fight with MUTO Prime shows them as separate entities 73.123.35.216 (talk) 21:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.Geardona (talk to me?) 15:30, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Don't forget to close the answered edit requests by changing the answered=no parameter to answered=yes. Shadow311 (talk) 16:10, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Each Godzilla form deserves its own article, starting with Shin Godzilla and whatever the form is names that shows rings before shooting it’s atomic breath onwards. IndoBoy Official (talk) 21:01, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Singular point? Monster 1954 (talk) 17:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

it weird how God incarnate (Shin Godzilla) and God of destruction (GMK) are not in the alies section for Godzilla they are NICK NAMES for him (I think) Monster 1954 (talk) 17:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

also like someone saided before me why Dagon here he not one of Godzilla nick name dagon is a ancestor of Godzilla NOT Godzilla himself Monster 1954 (talk) 17:06, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Idk how to source or edit articles, only use the talk page. Can someone make the latest appearance in the info box Godzilla X Kong which was recently released, this year? GamerKlim9716 (talk) 22:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Please add a link to the Snickers Wikipedia page where it states in this page "Snickers candy bar" in the page section "Cultural Impact" Tommmmmmu (talk) 03:38, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Kpgjhpjm 06:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Last appearances are only used for, well their last appearance, not their latest appearances. Since they're still making Godzilla films and there are no plans of stopping, last appearance is inappropriate to use in this article. JDDJS (talk) 13:04, 17 November 2017 (UTC) JDDJS (talk) 13:04, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

You're taking the word "last" too literal here. In this context, Last appearance does not mean the same as "final" appearance, it means what was the most latest film the character appeared in. As of now, Godzilla's last appearance in any movie was Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters. There is no rule on Wiki's Manual of Style guidelines that state that "last appearances" should be removed, therefore, it should not be removed from the article. Armegon (talk) 19:21, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Erm ur wrong since theres a new film called Gojira Minus one Shinagawakun3000 (talk) 18:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Who's gonna tell him? XD Armegon (talk) 00:25, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

For some reason there's like 4 incarnation pages of godzilla (Shin, Monsterverse, Heisei, Minus one) I'm kinda surprise that showa wasn't the 4th one Shinagawakun3000 (talk) 18:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Those Gojiras are the iconic ones, that's why they're on Wikipedia. GojiraFan1954 (talk) 04:48, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@Shinagawakun3000 Showa Godzilla is now on wikipedia see here GojiraFan1954 (talk) 21:25, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

"Godzilla as portrayed by Haruo Nakajima via suitmation in Godzilla (1954)" is only correct in general sense because Hauro Nakajima played Godzilla in most suitmation scenes. However, the image used is a publicity still and the person who wore the suit for that occassion was modeller Eizo Kaimai not Haruo Nakajima. So to be correct either the photo should be changed or the description. https://www.jvta.net/co/akenomyojo124/ https://yaman-blog.seesaa.net/article/474917991.html Most set photos from the original do show Nakajima but please keep in mind the other suit actor, Katsumi Tezuka, is the man wearing the Godzilla suit in the scenes near the Diet building. I didn't change either the photo or description because I think it's a very serious thing to change the main photo of such a large article and I understand it's much more preferable to include the name of Godzilla's most famous actor and not the modeller so this post was just made fyi to inform you it's incorrect. MrCogito01 (talk) 16:28, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

I’m not disregarding anything, but reliability has to be considered. How reliable are these sources? One is a blog, so we can’t use that one. But how reliable is the JVTA source? Furthermore, are there more sources confirming this? Armegon (talk) 18:39, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

https://ameblo.jp/gara999/entry-12488593813.html

Another. If it's something that only Japanese genre experts are talking about but it lacks some easier to find sources in English (or Japanese, but yeah they're not that easy to get those books and magazines) then I've got nothing just wanted to issue a small correction in the discussion tab so at least the information is out there in some form otherwise I would've simply changed the article itself.

Well, ok the Japanese version of the Wiki article for Eizo Kaimai 開米栄三 and I believe for the original Godzilla film mention it too and the source given is "Godzilla Research Reader" or "初代ゴジラ研究読本 2014, pp. 182–191, 取材・文：友井健人「INTERVIEW 造型助手 開米栄三」" MrCogito01 (talk) 00:19, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

It would be weird to add description to the main photo of the article that reads "Godzilla as portrayed by Eizo Kaimi" because we just know he wore the suit for that particular publicity shoot session... and possibly later when the crew made a Godzilla suit that was shipped to the U.S. for "Volcano Monster" movie with him being the tallest serving as the model for the intended American actor. I mean it would be weird because it was a pretty unusual situation for him and doesn't exemplify the situation very well so if someone were to ask me I'd just keep the photo but leave out the detail who portrayed Godzilla for that occassion (because the information can be found in the text) just like what the Japanese version of the article did. MrCogito01 (talk) 00:36, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Me and an IP have discussed the issue of how some information on the Zilla (Godzilla) article have been presented, or rather misrepresented -- and we both have come to an agreement on how to improve the article. However, the overhaul of an entire article cannot rest on the decision of two editors. Therefore, I invite those interested to the discussion at the article's talk page and provide your two cents. Some of the edits we've proposed may invoke resistance, or even controversy, so mass consensus is needed before we implement our edits. Armegon (talk) 05:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

the beam in the 1954 film was called the incandescent light in the film or "radioactivity extrusion". The name atomic breath was popularized by mostly fan usage. I might be incorrect though, please correct me if im wrong. Dinosaur Man the Great (talk) 03:35, 7 August 2025 (UTC)