Talk:Homelessness/Archive 2
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sleeping rough
I don't think "sleeping rough" is a British term for homelessness specifically. Sleeping rough can refer to any simple sleeping arrangement devoid of a bed. Bus stop (talk) 23:54, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- In the United States, we have a term called "roughing it" which is nearly identical, except there's usually an implication that it's temporary and being done for recreation (camping for example). Sometimes it is used as a euphemism for involuntary living conditions, but almost never applied to someone who is permanently homeless. There's probably a connection between the American and British terms. -- Atama頭 19:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- If the American equivalent to "rough sleeping" is "roughing it," then neither need to be mentioned, as these are simple colloquialisms, not actual terminology. Furthermore, 'roughing it' is largely an idiom for camping. -Stevertigo (w | t | e) 03:12, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Homelessness probably didn't begin in the Middle Ages
Mental Illness and Deinstitutionalization
I propose that the article mention the link between homelessness and the problems posed by the lack of accessible mental health care to the homeless, e.g. the fact that some homeless people are in need of long-term mental health care. Benkaplan42 (talk) 14:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Recent Edit (s)
People argue vociferously about the "cause" of homelessness. A conclusory determination without citation, in the very first sentence, is in violation of the most basic WP policies. गीता Brother Can You Spare A Dime - Unsparingly correcting prejudicial edits
There is no such thing as a "legal definition" of "street people" at least not in the non-relevant cited page.
Brothercanyouspareadime (talk) 19:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
New Page Proposal
I posted at the Drawing Board just to be polite. Nobody has commented.
All the red links are there for a reason please do not perturb.
The citations will be put in you can help if you like please no heavy hands I am onto a real deficit in this page and have the skilss to bring it up to snuff. Thanks all for your patience.
Brothercanyouspareadime (talk) 02:17, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The Homeless Guy
I would like that my blog on my homeless experiences be included within the references of this article. I have been in and around homelessness since 1982. I have been writing about homelessness since 2002. My blog has been the subject of numerable newspaper and magazine articles, from USAToday to Wired Magazine, Salon.com and the Utne Reader. I have been involved with government and homeless shelter agencies. I have been on the board of directors of the Campus for Human Development in Nashville. I have sat on the Mayor's Taskforce on Homelessness, and the Metro Homelessness Commission in Nashville Tn. I once created my own homeless street newspaper and was a member of the North American Street Newspaper Association.
I believe a link to my blog would be suitable for this article. My blog is http://thehomelessguy.blogspot.com Thanks. The Homeless Guy (talk) 00:24, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- After taking a look at the blog, I disagree with adding it to this article.
It may be more appropriate to submit it to dmoz.org, which is currently linked to from this article.I see it's already linked from dmoz.org, which is linked to from this article. That's a far more appropriate location for linking it. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:32, 16 August 2009 (UTC) - What's wrong with linking to it? Why the need for the intermediary? Maybe the intermediary will say no? Perhaps we need an article "Homeless Blogs?" but I am concerned that is too referential to the internet, a minor concern.Brothercanyouspareadime (talk) 02:19, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Title
WP:ADJECTIVE says to use the noun form instead of the adjectival form, so this article should probably be renamed "homeless person" or "homeless people". I prefer the latter. Although WP:NAME says that the singular form is usually preferred, the plural form can be used when discussing classes of objects.
(there are other proposed alternatives such as "urban outdoorsman", but that wouldn't do for the main title) --Underpants 00:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
- The problem you run into there is that you are not citing references to surveys of the nature and status of the homeless population you are citing refs to more abstract treatments of the topic. It is really a distinguishable topic. Secondly, you would be writing about people in a way that might be derogatory inadvertantly but derogatory. Better to stick with discussion of the abstraction, homelessness, than to risk harming Living Persons. Brothercanyouspareadime (talk) 02:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Disambiguation page is protected but has terrible improper language tantamount to hate speech
It is really a shame that this issue has not been addressed a long long time ago.
BUM disambiguation lists it as a term for homeless person.
Note that "coon" is not listed as a term for a person of some race, and for good reason.
Prejudiced hate language should not be dignified on wikipedia.
"Chink" same problem.
It makes no difference that it is called a "derogatory term".
Here is from the Oxford English Dictionary:
slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.). 1. Thesaurus » Categories »
a. A lazy and dissolute person; an habitual loafer or tramp; = bummer n.3 See also quot. 1933. 1864 Gold Hill (Nevada) News 15 Apr. 5/1 The poli
- Wikipedia is not censored. Coon and chink are both identified in their articles as derogatory terms for blacks and Asians, respectively. Joefromrandb (talk) 06:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
